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AteUp
11-28-2008, 01:00 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27947018/

By Peter Baker
updated 2 hours, 45 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President-elect Barack Obama is receiving heaps of good tidings from both sides of the aisle during this Thanksgiving season as he puts together his administration. But at least one office is not giving him a free pass.

With each day’s announcement of another cabinet or White House appointment, the Republican National Committee has been blitzing out critical statements that look no different from the blasts issued throughout the campaign. Mr. Obama’s selections so far, the Republican committee says, have been tax-raising, partisan Washington insiders, hardly the agents of change he promised.

The aggressive approach contrasts with the tone so far from Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill, who are greeting the incoming administration with what has ranged from wait-and-see politeness to an almost warm embrace. Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader from Kentucky, for example, offered praise for Mr. Obama’s initial decisions last week and signaled that he was relieved to be done with President Bush.

“I think the new administration is off to a good start,” Mr. McConnell told reporters. “They’re saying, in my view, all the right things.” Referring to Mr. Obama and his team, he added: “They want to govern in the middle and tackle big things.”

“Our members, in one way,” Mr. McConnell said, “are kind of relieved by the departure of an administration that became unpopular and made it very difficult for us to compete.”

But if Mr. McConnell considers this a good start, the memo did not reach the Republican committee headquarters. Here is how the party has characterized various selections made by Mr. Obama:

* On Representative Rahm Emanuel as White House chief of staff: “Barack Obama’s first decision as president-elect undermines his promise to ‘heal the divides.’ Rahm Emanuel is a partisan insider who played a lead role in breaking Washington.”

* On David Axelrod, Mr. Obama’s campaign strategist, as White House senior adviser: “For a president-elect who promised to change the tone in Washington, it’s disappointing that he is filling his White House with partisan bomb-throwers. When people think of ‘change,’ they don’t think of political consultants like David Axelrod.”

* On Tom Daschle, the former Democratic majority leader in the Senate, as secretary of health and human services: “For voters hoping to see new faces and fewer lobbyist-connections in government, Daschle’s nomination will be another disappointment. Obama promised to change America’s health care system, but his nominee to be secretary is no change agent.”

* On Eric H. Holder Jr., the former deputy attorney general, as attorney general: “Instead of bringing the bipartisan ‘change’ to Washington that he promised voters, Barack Obama is rewarding yet another one of his political loyalists in Eric Holder. The only person who thinks Eric Holder represents ‘hope’ is Marc Rich,” the convicted financier pardoned by President Bill Clinton with Mr. Holder’s acquiescence.

It is not entirely surprising, of course, that a party organization would remain in feisty campaign mode even after the election while legislators in Congress would take a more accommodating tone. Republican lawmakers now have an incentive to work with Mr. Obama, at least for a while, particularly since Republicans lost enough seats to make it harder to exert influence. But the Republican party apparatus has an incentive to keep the heat on Mr. Obama and show donors and activists that it will not crumble despite the tough losses in this month’s elections.

“Americans have very high expectations for President-elect Obama, and it’s our job to hold him accountable on his promises,” said Amber Wilkerson, a Republican National Committee spokeswoman. “Naming Emanuel and Axelrod to his senior White House staff is not consistent with his post-partisan message, and nominating Daschle and Clinton to his cabinet does not represent change,” she said, referring to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, said to be Mr. Obama’s pick for secretary of state. Ms. Wilkerson continued: “Republicans will work with the Obama administration when we agree, and we will be the loyal opposition when we don’t.”

turkeytalker
11-28-2008, 01:21 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27947018/

Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader from Kentucky, for example, offered praise for Mr. Obama’s initial decisions last week and signaled that he was relieved to be done with President Bush.

“I think the new administration is off to a good start,” Mr. McConnell told reporters. “They’re saying, in my view, all the right things.” Referring to Mr. Obama and his team, he added: “They want to govern in the middle and tackle big things.”

“Our members, in one way,” Mr. McConnell said, “are kind of relieved by the departure of an administration that became unpopular and made it very difficult for us to compete.”


I'm sure some spin was included in this quote,as i don't read McConnell saying what msnbc writes. That said, Mitch's own words could easily say exactly that,maybe we should send a few emails to him?


I'm pretty sure we elected him to lead us,this is not leadership.!:mad:


Gonna check into this and would advise everyone to do the same, can you imagine our own Senator selling us out? Jim Bunning should replace Mitch ASAP

mrdux
11-28-2008, 09:25 AM
I've said before, I would have GLADLY voted McConnell's azz back where ever he came from if there had been a viable CONSERVATIVE opponent.

The GOP leadership in the House and Senate spend too much time on their knees on the wrong side of the aisle. Rather than kissing azz, they should be busting azz. Their days are numbered, as will be Obama's, when folks realize what an awful mistake this country has made by putting them and keeping them in power.

I no longer consider myself to be Republican. I'm a proud CONSERVATIVE and PATRIOT. If that means a 3rd party needs to fill the vacuum, so be it. As long as they stand for what our forefathers believed for this country--limited government, low or NO taxes, state rights over federal rights, and individual freedoms--I'll stand with them. If that also means I will be forced to stand up AGAINST what I perceive as government that is willing to pizz on what our forefathers fought for, so be it also. I will not stand idly by and let the country I have loved all my life become something my grandchildren will hate.

From my cold,dead hands!!

buckfever
12-01-2008, 10:55 AM
I'm sure some spin was included in this quote,as i don't read McConnell saying what msnbc writes. That said, Mitch's own words could easily say exactly that,maybe we should send a few emails to him?


I'm pretty sure we elected him to lead us,this is not leadership.!:mad:


Gonna check into this and would advise everyone to do the same, can you imagine our own Senator selling us out? Jim Bunning should replace Mitch ASAP

I dsagree. You're willing to abandon McConnell after one MSNBC article uses selected quotes to push their own agenda??? :confused::confused:. Hell, Obama's not even president, and McConnell hasn't capitulated on a single issue yet, and you're already willing to abandon his ship.

That's the spirit!!

McConnell was elected to represent all Kentuckians - NOT just conservatives and NOT just republicans. If he immediately challenged Obama's every pre-inauguration move in a partisan manner and maintained a "my conservative way or the highway" approach, I would view that as a lack of leadership. Obama hasn't made a single decision yet, so there's absolutely no need for McConnell to start lambasting him.

The problem with pure partisanship is that it inevitably leads to deadlock, where nothing gets accomplished. Regardless of people's ideologies, life must go on, and the government needs our politicians to govern.

IMO, McConnell is saying EXACTLY the right things. He's using his position and comments in an effort to push Obama away from his left-wing bent and more towards a centrist position. I'll also say that I'm mildly impressed (emphasis on "mildly") that Obama appears to be actually trying to engage, at least in some areas, in a non-partisan, consensus building approach that may find support from both sides of the aisle. It remains to be seen what actually will happen once he becomes president, but at least at this stage, he's making good on his word to at least try to appear inclusive of republicans.

Although unspoken, McConnells also giving Obama exactly the rope he needs to hang himself once Obama is forced to raise taxes to generate revenue to support his enormous new spending programs. There's plenty of time yet for all this Kumbaya stuff to fly out the window, and I suspect that it will start flying shortly after he takes office. THAT (as opposed to now) will be the time to start voicing your pleasure or displeasure.

turkeytalker
12-01-2008, 03:12 PM
Buckfever, i'm not abandoning ship, McConnell represents alot more than Ky voters and even if he didn't,i'm pretty sure not very many Kyians would approve of Eric Holder as A.G..


Sorry, but i just can't get over the deadlock while congress was controlled by Republicans. Why is it always the republicans that have to play nice?

trust me
12-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Sorry, but i just can't get over the deadlock while congress was controlled by Republicans. Why is it always the republicans that have to play nice?

Because even as tarnished as the Repubs are lately, they still show more class and leadership than Reid/Pelosi/Shumer/Kennedy.

mmayes
12-01-2008, 04:08 PM
Because even as tarnished as the Repubs are lately, they still show more class and leadership than Reid/Pelosi/Shumer/Kennedy.


You got that right.

Mayes

buckfever
12-01-2008, 04:45 PM
Buckfever, i'm not abandoning ship, McConnell represents alot more than Ky voters and even if he didn't,i'm pretty sure not very many Kyians would approve of Eric Holder as A.G..


Sorry, but i just can't get over the deadlock while congress was controlled by Republicans. Why is it always the republicans that have to play nice?

Oh, don't get me wrong, I've got no love for Holder or some of Obama's other appointments, but nobody really expected him to make any appointments that would satisfy a conservative anyway.

I think McConnell is just biting his tongue UNTIL there's a reason for him to respond. Until that time, I think that he's wise to approach things in a non-partisan manner.

Although I agree with you that the democrats helped create the gridlock that has led to the mess better known as the federal government, the reality is that a lot of Americans don't really care who's at fault and are only interested in seeing it end. I think that a concerted effort by Republicans to try to work with Democrats will go a long way towards regaining voter trust and confidence in 2010.

AteUp
12-01-2008, 05:07 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27995660/

Left-leaning voters are eager for a more dramatic sense of change

updated 12:49 p.m. ET, Mon., Dec. 1, 2008
Barack Obama promises to steer the nation straight again. He better be ready for a strong force pulling left.

The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. He won almost 90 percent of the liberal vote, more than the previous two Democratic presidential nominees, John Kerry or Al Gore.

Now the same millions of left-leaning voters who worked relentlessly to get Obama elected want results. That means ending the war in Iraq, ushering in universal health care, halting harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists, making it easier to form unions and aggressively tackling global warming.

"We'll see," said Eli Pariser, executive director of the liberal powerhouse Moveon.org, about what Obama will deliver. "If they turn out to be all disappointments, we'll have a good three years to storm the gates at the White House."

Already, the liberal blogosphere is showing its influence.

John Brennan, Obama's top pick to head the CIA, suddenly withdrew his name from consideration under pressure this past week. His potential appointment had raised a firestorm among liberal blogs that associate him with the Bush administration's interrogation, detention and rendition policies. Within hours, blogs that raised concerns about Brennan's career claimed victory about their successful exercise in free speech.

Leading with a bipartisan spirit?
The debt is starting to come due on Obama's promise of "change we can believe in." Except he meant "we" in a broader sense.

He promised to lead with a bipartisan spirit, the kind that could unify a country and allow him to get deals through Congress. From the moment he won, he implored people: "Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship."

And then he set out to take his own advice.

Obama's courting of Republicans — for ideas, legislative support, and potential roles in his Cabinet — is drawing cautious attention from the liberal base of his Democratic Party. The concern, to the degree that it exists this soon, is that Obama's emphasis on governing from the center may undermine the left.

He still pledges to wind down the war in Iraq, but everything comes second to fixing the staggering economy right now. He has stood up in defense for Sen. Joe Lieberman, a virtual Democratic outcast these days, and sought help from his Republican presidential foe, Sen. John McCain.

Obama is building a government with several Clinton administration faces, a move that has underwhelmed some liberal voices who are eager for a more dramatic sense of change.

In one posting that seemed to echo in the Internet community, liberal blogger Chris Bowers wrote, "I feel incredibly frustrated. ... Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration? Why isn't there a single member of Obama's Cabinet who will be advising him from the left?"

Christopher Hayes, the Washington-based editor of The Nation, offered his own lament about a lack of progressive candidates for prominent leadership spots. He said the left has been right about Iraq, financial deregulation and global warming, and yet "no one who comes from the part of American political and intellectual life that has given birth to all of these ideas is anywhere to be found within miles of the Obama Cabinet so far."

Obama pushed back a bit this past week, saying his advisers will blend "experience with fresh thinking."

Of course, he is not done picking his Cabinet, let alone occupying the Oval Office yet. Any rumblings of discontent at this point show that expectations for Obama are enormous within his party. Labor unions and liberal groups spent big money and knocked on countless doors to help get Obama elected.

Center-left versus left-center
The undercurrent of concern is not that Obama, granted the title of most liberal senator in one prominent ranking, will suddenly abandon the people who helped elect him or change course on core causes. Rather, it is that liberal side of his party may have to wait longer for victories, and accept smaller ones.

That is the reality of governance right now.

"I think he's moving center-left, rather than left-center. It's fair to call him pragmatic," said Paul Light, a public policy professor and presidential historian at New York University. "I think labor is going to get a lot from him. I think his liberal supporters are going to get a lot from him. But they're going to be disappointed if they want all liberal all the time."

The economy is in such remarkably dreadful shape that Obama may get a pass on other matters while he tries to fix that one.

An early test will be how Obama's team works with congressional leaders and appropriations committee chairmen on his first priority, a massive bill to stimulate the economy. If Democrats go too far left on it, they may lose some conservative members of their own caucus and give Obama some fits.

The left could get early legislative victories on expanded health care for children from poor families, and looser restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research. Obama's stimulus plan is bound to include spending and jobs supported by labor.