Remington .17 HMR Upgraded Varminter

[Haves]

I think this is the way to go for my small varmint purposes. .17 HMR, Semi Auto for a quick follow up, and a one hole shooter.

Revolutionstocks had great looking stocks on their site and listed the 597 as a special order but hadn't begun production for the rifle.

Long story short, after a few conversations with the company, I loaned them my rifle to use as a model. I received a fantastic looking rifle back. I really can't say enough regarding the quality and the customer service. If you are looking at upgrading a stock on a 10/22 or Remington 597, take a look.
Remington 597 .17HMR
volquartsen trigger
Revolution Tundra Stock
mueller tactical

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[The scout'n man]

Sweet gun man! Didn't know Rem. made the 17 HMR in semi autos yet I'll have to check that out! So hows it group?

[Haves]

It was a fantastic shooter prior to the new trigger and stock. I just got it back yesterday with the new stock so I'll take it out this weekend.

If you haven't shot a .17 HMR, give one a try. It is the most accurate rimfire, gets down-range quick, and you can watch bullet strikes through the scope. The rifle was 1" MOA prior to the trigger and that was growing groups more than anything( and my shooting of course).

I believe Remingtion stopped making the 597 in .17 HMR. They were firing out of battery and blowing the magazine out.
You have to clean it sometimes. The chamger tollerace is tighter than a .22(I have read) and if you run hundreds of rounds through it without cleaning the chamber, you may be asking for trouble.

That being said...I would buy one of these in a heartbeat.

[Scott7m]

1" at 100 isn't that awesome with an 17hmr.....

i shot a 5 shot group that measure .274 with my 17hm.... i shot bunches and bunches of groups in the .3-.45 range... but my best was .274.

my gun is a marlin 20" barrel heavy, has a rifle basix trigger, i polished the inside of the barrel to a near mirror finish and started shooting.. was amazed that a factory rifle with factory ammo could shoot that good.. i have a 12x leupold on mine....

can make consistant kills to 225..... and get lucky sometimes beyond that. longest shot i've made was 325 on a crow...

[Haves]

I'll have to shoot it and post a target.
At 50 yards it was one ragged small hole for 5 shot strings.
At 100 it would shoot a tight group, less than an inch I'd say. But I really wasn't watching to see if a nickel would cover them. I would throw a flyer sometimes but I think it was either me or the trigger. I just got it set up so I'll take it out this weekend and see how it does. The new trigger is really crisp now.

[Scott7m]

from what i've seen the 17hmr is still in no way a varmint gun.... i shot a coyote with it last year and it never slowed him down one bit... found some hair and couple drops of blood.. but there is just no penetration with them

[Haves]

I used the word "small varmint" in my post.

It would make a great Fox, Raccoon, Badger rifle and I would not hesitate on a standing 100yard coyote either.

[killinmammals]

I used the word "small varmint" in my post.

It would make a great Fox, Raccoon, Badger rifle and I would not hesitate on a standing 100yard coyote either.
Unless you can put that sucker in the yotes eye, it won't do much. The bullets just explode on contact with the critters. Good lord, I think I've put about 700rds through my savage and its amazingly accurate. There is no telling how many small critters have fallen victim to that beast...black birds explode and so do squirrels....pidgeons make a nice pop and flap around for a couple of seconds with a golf ball sized hole in them...not more than 1/2 deep

[Scott7m]

I used the word "small varmint" in my post.

It would make a great Fox, Raccoon, Badger rifle and I would not hesitate on a standing 100yard coyote either.

my yote was at 60 yards.... shot him behind the shoulder.. never phased him one bit..

[The scout'n man]

You all know they make a full jackated holow point for these things now don't you. I'd say they would be alot better for the yotes than those polymer tiped jobs they first come out with!

[turkeytalker]

my yote was at 60 yards.... shot him behind the shoulder.. never phased him one bit..


Scott, you missed.

[Haves]

I believe what you are saying on the coyote. I didn't buy it to shoot coyotes. I was planning on taking it to Kansas on a Pheasant hunt recently. I always see badgers, fox, and coyotes. I wouldn't take the rifle on a "coyote" hunt. But I doubt that I would pass a standing shot at less than 100. If it failed to penetrate or kill quickly, that would probably be my last shot at a coyote.

If you look across the web, a lot of coyotes have fallen to the .17HMR. They use them in Australia for Kangaroos. People don't usually post about wounding animals so I'm sure it happens. The ballistic tip Hornady ammo breaks apart quickly. The Hollow point(I think it is CCI) penetrate further and have a less explosive impact. Take a look at http://www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm.

It think it would be fantastic on a fox size animal.

[Scott7m]

Scott, you missed.

read my other post........ hair/ a few drops of blood...... watched him going out through a flat for nearly a mile.. never hurt him! by the time he got to the far end i was watchin him through bino's and he was just sniffin around like he was back to normal business

yeah the 20gr are hollow point, would do bettter. but still.....

[JDMiller]

Haves... sharp looking rifle you have there.

I'm new to the 17HMR scene but really..really.. like this round. I too know its on small size for bigger varmints but there are bullet options to help compensate. I've opted for the CCI 20gr Gamepoint..jacketed hollow point .

I cant sit here and tell you I've proven its performance but from what critters I have used it on... I dont really have any reservations. It's as accurate a round that I ever shot and if your shooting accurate...good shot placement... it will cause a yotes demise.

Honestly on yotes... I really dont care if it drops them in their tracks...or causes a slow & painfull death two days later. I really have a displeasure with yotes. This round will penetrate & mushroom... not explode & fragment.

If I wanted to stack yotes up like a cord of wood .... I would pack something larger... along the lines of a 204. However for the occasional yote opportunity... the 17HMR will work.

[Scott7m]

Haves... sharp looking rifle you have there.

I'm new to the 17HMR scene but really..really.. like this round. I too know its on small size for bigger varmints but there are bullet options to help compensate. I've opted for the CCI 20gr Gamepoint..jacketed hollow point .

I cant sit here and tell you I've proven its performance but from what critters I have used it on... I dont really have any reservations. It's as accurate a round that I ever shot and if your shooting accurate...good shot placement... it will cause a yotes demise.

Honestly on yotes... I really dont care if it drops them in their tracks...or causes a slow & painfull death two days later. I really have a displeasure with yotes. This round will penetrate & mushroom... not explode & fragment.

If I wanted to stack yotes up like a cord of wood .... I would pack something larger... along the lines of a 204. However for the occasional yote opportunity... the 17HMR will work.


if you use the 20gr.. probably will kill it... i bet he runs a long ways.. unless u pop him in the head.

i've experimented with different brands of ammo in the 17hmr..... cci usually shot the worst for me.. something to consider... hornady always shot the best

[turkeytalker]

This round won't kill a coyote at 60yrds without a head shot?

No wonder i stick with the .22LR

[JDMiller]

if you use the 20gr.. probably will kill it... i bet he runs a long ways.. unless u pop him in the head.

This round won't kill a coyote at 60yrds without a head shot?

No wonder i stick with the .22LR



No disrespect to either of you two but ya'll need to think about what your saying. It's the same thing each of you said to me concerning using a 17hmr on bobcats awhile back on another thread. Comments like the 17hmr will only penetrate 1/2"on a pigeon leaving a golfball sized hole ...leaves most of questioning those statements. All I can say ... boys ya'll need to learn a little about bullets.

Forget the ballistic tip fragmenting stuff and shoot a FMJ soft point or hollow point. The 17HMR is a necked down 22mag brass to fit the 17 calibur bullet. Balistics pretty much make these two rounds a tie...with each having an edge in certain areas. This is a little more potent than the 17Mach2 and other 17 rimfires based on the 22lr brass. I'll also say... the 17HMR will beat a 22mag for accuracy at a 100 yds.

I dont think anyone would go out & buy a 17hmr specifically for coyote hunting. Theres way too many choices in caliburs that would do a better job...and a 22lr would'nt be one of them. What "Haves" stated and I did as well... was using one if the opportunity arose. If I were squirrel hunting with my 17hmr and a yote came by... you think my first thoughts would be of ya'll two telling me it wont kill a yote... I dont think so. Maybe a better option to ya'll thoughts ...we need to hire a gunbearer... like in the old Tarzan movies to pack multiple calibur rifles pending the size critters we come across. :D

You dont have to search the net very far to see pics of critters fallen by a 17HMR. Small game...bobcats...yotes. I've even run across a few wild hog pics killed by this lowly round ...who would have thunk it.

Within reasonable distance... the 17HMR will kill a yote... just as a 22lr, 22-250 or 300 win mag. If it drops in its tracks or runs to a brushpile and dies.... dead is dead. Heck.. theres no telling how many dog or cat sized critters thats fallen to a Daisy or Crossman pellet rifle.

Also... while the 22lr has been mentioned.... you recon theres ever been a deer killed by a 22lr ?? Slight bit bigger critter than a yote but theres been countless illegally shot deer killed by this small round. Would you want to specifically hunt deer with one... besides being illegal to do so... no. Theres better choices of centerfires to do the job... just as theres better rounds to use for yotes. But I would'nt say or tell anyone the 17HMR cant.

[turkeytalker]

No disrespect to either of you two but ya'll need to think about what your saying. It's the same thing each of you said to me concerning using a 17hmr on bobcats awhile back on another thread. Comments like the 17hmr will only penetrate 1/2"on a pigeon leaving a golfball sized hole ...leaves most of questioning those statements. All I can say ... boys ya'll need to learn a little about bullets.



Forget the ballistic tip fragmenting stuff and shoot a FMJ soft point or hollow point. The 17HMR is a necked down 22mag brass to fit the 17 calibur bullet. Balistics pretty much make these two rounds a tie...with each having an edge in certain areas. This is a little more potent than the 17Mach2 and other 17 rimfires based on the 22lr brass. I'll also say... the 17HMR will beat a 22mag for accuracy at a 100 yds.

I dont think anyone would go out & buy a 17hmr specifically for coyote hunting. Theres way too many choices in caliburs that would do a better job...and a 22lr would'nt be one of them. What "Haves" stated and I did as well... was using one if the opportunity arose. If I were squirrel hunting with my 17hmr and a yote came by... you think my first thoughts would be of ya'll two telling me it wont kill a yote... I dont think so. Maybe a better option to ya'll thoughts ...we need to hire a gunbearer... like in the old Tarzan movies to pack multiple calibur rifles pending the size critters we come across. :D

You dont have to search the net very far to see pics of critters fallen by a 17HMR. Small game...bobcats...yotes. I've even run across a few wild hog pics killed by this lowly round ...who would have thunk it.

Within reasonable distance... the 17HMR will kill a yote... just as a 22lr, 22-250 or 300 win mag. If it drops in its tracks or runs to a brushpile and dies.... dead is dead. Heck.. theres no telling how many dog or cat sized critters thats fallen to a Daisy or Crossman pellet rifle.

Also... while the 22lr has been mentioned.... you recon theres ever been a deer killed by a 22lr ?? Slight bit bigger critter than a yote but theres been countless illegally shot deer killed by this small round. Would you want to specifically hunt deer with one... besides being illegal to do so... no. Theres better choices of centerfires to do the job... just as theres better rounds to use for yotes. But I would'nt say or tell anyone the 17HMR cant.


If you'll look closely there is a question mark behind my post and i don't remember ever telling you that a .17hmr wouldn't kill a bobcat.

You make a very good point about squirrel hunting and thats what i was saying when i said i'd stick with a .22 as i would shoot the crap out of a yote at 60yrds.

[JDMiller]

If you'll look closely there is a question mark behind my post and i don't remember ever telling you that a .17hmr wouldn't kill a bobcat.

Your correct and I appoligize for lumping you & Scott7M on my statement. It was just some familliar sentiment on that thread about like this one on critters that size.

Its about like concealed carry caliburs... everyone got an opinion.. but personally I dont wont to be on the receiving end of a 22 or a 45.

[Scott7m]

Your correct and I appoligize for lumping you & Scott7M on my statement. It was just some familliar sentiment on that thread about like this one on critters that size.

Its about like concealed carry caliburs... everyone got an opinion.. but personally I dont wont to be on the receiving end of a 22 or a 45.


last year at this time i'd be screaming that the 17hmr would be awesome for yotes.... i went into the field and found out otherwise... i then later tried the bottle test with 20oz pop bottles, line up 6 or 7 in a row... shoot them with a ballistic tip, no pentration, doesn't even come out the backside of the bottle, but does bust the bottle.. use the hollow point and it will go threw a few bottles usually

[droopy]

i would'nt think twice about busting a yote with my 17.they are so accurate you can shoot thier eyes out.

[CUZZIN]

This round won't kill a coyote at 60yrds without a head shot?

No wonder i stick with the .22LRSounds like to me you and scotty need to go to a bigger cal.:D

[Scott7m]

hey cuzzin what happened to that big gun you used to have?

[CUZZIN]

Which one would that be?

[Scott7m]

that big gun you shoot the $h!t with hahahhahahahaha

[CUZZIN]

My you are the wise one this morning,tell one of them long egagerated stories to keep us all amused this weekend:rolleyes:

[The scout'n man]

Well with that semi auto even if the first shot didn't stop that yote a second one probably wouldn't be far behind! And I'm with JDMiller I don't care if it takes two weeks for a yote to die as long as he does it's one less to worry about! If it will kill a pig with the right bullet you can kill a yote with it!

[Haves]

I went through my safe looking for ammo and picked up a box of Federal Premium V-Shok down at the gun store. I'm sure they are the same as the hornady polymer tips and I have some of those also. I'll run those through and some CCI FMJ and I believe one box of 20 Grain hollow points. I'll get her dialed in tomorrow.

[Scott7m]

Well with that semi auto even if the first shot didn't stop that yote a second one probably wouldn't be far behind! And I'm with JDMiller I don't care if it takes two weeks for a yote to die as long as he does it's one less to worry about! If it will kill a pig with the right bullet you can kill a yote with it!

well i don't think that we should want any animal to suffer..... peta would love to hear that!

[turkeytalker]

well i don't think that we should want any animal to suffer..... peta would love to hear that!


LOL. That has to be the dumbest argument i've ever heard about PETA, guess they like quick kills:rolleyes:.


Hunters kill s***,most they eat, some they don't,but at the point they start sympathizing with animals feelings,PETA will be useless.

[Haves]

I'm pretty sure you two are chatting across the bedroom from each other.

[CUZZIN]

well i don't think that we should want any animal to suffer..... peta would love to hear that!Come on Scotty beam me up, you can do better than that:eek:

[turkeytalker]

I'm pretty sure you two are chatting across the bedroom from each other.


Haves that is one pretty critter/paper slayin firearm for sure, but don't confuse me in the mix with you, Scott,and Cuzz pleaz:cool:. I didn't vote for Ubama.

[Scott7m]

Haves that is one pretty critter/paper slayin firearm for sure, but don't confuse me in the mix with you, Scott,and Cuzz pleaz:cool:. I didn't vote for Ubama.


i bet the guy that built that gun woulda tossed it in the river if he known he was votin for obama lol

[CUZZIN]

Hey buddy that is one sweet piece no joke.

[Haves]

Haves that is one pretty critter/paper slayin firearm for sure, but don't confuse me in the mix with you, Scott,and Cuzz pleaz:cool:. I didn't vote for Ubama.


I could use that fancy colored rifled to protect the new commander & chief if jack rabbits ever attacked.

I'm trying to fancy up my rifle collection. They are the only thing holding value since my 401K went negative in the bush years.lol

[turkeytalker]

I could use that fancy colored rifled to protect the new commander & chief if jack rabbits ever attacked.

I'm trying to fancy up my rifle collection. They are the only thing holding value since my 401K went negative in the bush years.lol


Good luck killin a jackrabbit with that little mouse gun.:rolleyes:

[Haves]

i bet the guy that built that gun woulda tossed it in the river if he known he was votin for obama lol


Thank god green meant more to him than black!

[Haves]

I was reading on another site about the Kangaroos and Hogs and everything else that is falling to .17 HMR. I would never say it's an ideal bullet for anything above 40 lbs....but it will kill animals larger than a rabbit. And surprisingly large game with a chest or head shot and proper bullets.

From a post on another forum...

Went out hog hunting with my friend, and my dad today to try and thin out the hog population a little bit. We threw some corn out then sat and waited to see what would come out. After about a half hour or so this boar came out 110 yards away. I steadied myself, and then took the shot; ended up dropping him in his tracks. Shot him with my Savage 17, with the CCI 20gr bullet right behind the ear. I am very impressed with this gun, and bullet. Never thought I would be able to drop a 200+ pig with a single shot at over 100 yards.

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[Haves]

old post bump for .17HMR on a hog.

[turkeytalker]

old post bump for .17HMR on a hog.


I smell something, nevermind, its just BS:p.