Your reaction to last nights debate?

[RLWEBB]

I quit watching at 10:00 and listened to none of the commentary. As you know I'm a McCain supporter but I was actually embarassed for him at times. Seems like he didn't come across as presidential and if I hear "My friends" one more time I think I'll be sick. I don't know what the answer is for him (Maybe more Palin) but I'm afraid that he is blowing this election. I think, undeservedly, that many folks are blaming the republicans for the economic down turn and that this is costing McCain. Your thoughts?

[treerat]

i was going to watch it but i was to sick and went to bed early,guess things didn't go to good,

[Manzanita]

After the third person stood up and asked basically the same stupid question, just slightly reworded, I had to quit watching.

Up until the point I stopped... my impression was that they were both terrible. McCain reminded me that he is no friend of conservatives. It's like he and BHO are competing to see who can spend the most money on a bailout.

It's going to take a lot of alcohol for me to vote for him on November 4.

I was thinking I should have gone ahead and bought that executive waterfront home with ten acres on Kentucky Lake for half a million dollars if the damn government was going to bail me out anyway. Now, I'm stuck with a reasonable fixed-rate loan that I can actually afford. I feel kind of cheated. Maybe Obama will buy me a new gun or something after he takes office.

[bassvax]

I quit watching at 10:00 and listened to none of the commentary. As you know I'm a McCain supporter but I was actually embarassed for him at times. Seems like he didn't come across as presidential and if I hear "My friends" one more time I think I'll be sick. I don't know what the answer is for him (Maybe more Palin) but I'm afraid that he is blowing this election. I think, undeservedly, that many folks are blaming the republicans for the economic down turn and that this is costing McCain. Your thoughts?


You pretty much summed up my current state of mind....although I refused to watch it.....It's too much to know that McCain is losing it...but to voluntarily sit and watch would have been torture. I guess I have a defeatist attitude but there is no way McCain will win this election. While I don't believe he is much more better than Obama...I do know that he is lesser of the two evils.

I believe there are too many folks that will vote the O way just to get away from Bush....In addition to that some folks don't want to hear the truth about either candidate...just the parts they like :(

Just gonna try to make it through the next 4 years (and hope that is all it will be).....Maybe McCain & Palin should switch positions on the ticket to give us conservatives a bit more of a chance......LOL

[Mtdrummer]

After the third person stood up and asked basically the same stupid question, just slightly reworded, I had to quit watching.

Up until the point I stopped... my impression was that they were both terrible. McCain reminded me that he is no friend of conservatives. It's like he and BHO are competing to see who can spend the most money on a bailout.

It's going to take a lot of alcohol for me to vote for him on November 4.

I was thinking I should have gone ahead and bought that executive waterfront home with ten acres on Kentucky Lake for half a million dollars if the damn government was going to bail me out anyway. Now, I'm stuck with a reasonable fixed-rate loan that I can actually afford. I feel kind of cheated. Maybe Obama will buy me a new gun or something after he takes office.


You'll get something but it won't be a gun.

[Scott7m]

I watched the debate, that a joke. both canidates said the same ol thing just worded things a lil differently at times.... mccain didn't sound presidential at all, he just seems back on his heels and obama is talking loud and proud, while mccain just barely talks.......

the people across the country do seem to be blaming repubs in general for the economic deal.....

as far as these poll numbers go......... man it's really hard for me to beleive........ the last couple months i've been to tennessee, ohio, virginia, west virginia, north carolina, south carolina, georgia, indiana, pennsylvania, and no where that i go traveling up and down the highways do i see many obama signs, very very few....... and when you go into the local restaraunts to sit down and eat, you sure don't hear anyone saying anything good about obama.......... i think they must go to a freakin liberal college campus or something to do there polling........

[Brewtus]

Obama is like the shinny star on top of the Christmas tree.
Anyone on the fence will probably pick the good looking, young, shinny star regardless of his lack of experience or knowledge.:(

[redbone]

I'm not voting for Obama - but how in the heck can McCain want to go buy up all the bad mortgages? It seems now no matter who we choose we're going to be a socialist country. i'm just about sick of the thought.

[slickhead slayer]

Thought it was a tie, both looked equally unimpressive to me.

[Louhunter]

That Obama will be our next president. We may as well face that fact.

[bowhunter08]

Thought it was a tie, both looked equally unimpressive to me.

My thoughts exactly!! Both did a terrible job, and they both repeated the same things, as the last debate.

[deadaim]

It hurts to watch......its like a football game .....everytime Obama drops the ball Mcain picks it back up and hands it to him........

[EKY.MTN.HUNTER]

I found myself getting pretty angry during the debate. I thought the people who stood up and asked questions had wonderful questions, questions with answers that we're all very concerned with. Issues concerning the economy, energy, foreign policy and such. As a person with moderate political views I would like to think I'm somewhat consistent at viewing both candidates critically. I really don't cheer for one team or the other, I just want the Candidate who has the best answers for all of OUR problems. With this being said, I'll move along to what angered me. When someone stood up and asked the candidates a tough question, the same questions that all of us have and want answers for, both of them were guilty of dancing around the issues all night long. Time and time again, after being asked a difficult question they spoke for minutes (literally) about everything under the sun related to that controversial topic, but never came close to giving an answer that the question asked and demanded. It's like they just try to throw a hand full of mudd at the question and hope it hits various aspect of the issue, but they don't want to give the straight and simple response that would answer the question. I feel like alot of people don't even notice that the candidates are avoiding certain issues in their responses, they get sucked along, watching the mudd fight. All the candidates do in these debates is give safe responses, answers within party lines that don't piss off party leadership and don't anger voters. Then, every once in awhile when that tough question comes back along, they put the tap shoes back on and start dancing until their time limit is up. For example, if I ask you: Do you think Global warming can be attributed to our use of fossil fuels? I don't need you to spend 5 minutes telling me all about economic production, the nature of the atmosphere, the industrial revolution, and the artic habitats affect on polar bear reproduction rates. lol. It's almost comical to set back and watch sometimes. I realize the nature of politics makes it almost impossible for politicians to tell us what they really think. They all have to play the game, if they want to have a future playing the game. I just hope for their sake, they don't believe that they're actually fooling us when they spew this irrelevant stuff for minutes on end. The scary thing is, we don't exactly know how a candidate feels about many issues until we've already elected him our president.

[Ky'sFinest]

I found myself getting pretty angry during the debate. I thought the people who stood up and asked questions had wonderful questions, questions with answers that we're all very concerned with. Issues concerning the economy, energy, foreign policy and such. As a person with moderate political views I would like to think I'm somewhat consistent at viewing both candidates critically. I really don't cheer for one team or the other, I just want the Candidate who has the best answers for all of OUR problems. With this being said, I'll move along to what angered me. When someone stood up and asked the candidates a tough question, the same questions that all of us have and want answers for, both of them were guilty of dancing around the issues all night long. Time and time again, after being asked a difficult question they spoke for minutes (literally) about everything under the sun related to that controversial topic, but never came close to giving an answer that the question asked and demanded. It's like they just try to throw a hand full of mudd at the question and hope it hits various aspect of the issue, but they don't want to give the straight and simple response that would answer the question. I feel like alot of people don't even notice that the candidates are avoiding certain issues in their responses, they get sucked along, watching the mudd fight. All the candidates do in these debates is give safe responses, answers within party lines that don't piss off party leadership and don't anger voters. Then, every once in awhile when that tough question comes back along, they put the tap shoes back on and start dancing until their time limit is up. For example, if I ask you: Do you think Global warming can be attributed to our use of fossil fuels? I don't need you to spend 5 minutes telling me all about economic production, the nature of the atmosphere, the industrial revolution, and the artic habitats affect on polar bear reproduction rates. lol. It's almost comical to set back and watch sometimes. I realize the nature of politics makes it almost impossible for politicians to tell us what they really think. They all have to play the game, if they want to have a future playing the game. I just hope for their sake, they don't believe that they're actually fooling us when they spew this irrelevant stuff for minutes on end. The scary thing is, we don't exactly know how a candidate feels about many issues until we've already elected him our president.


the game they are playing is at our expense and peril unfortunately. how i would love to see a third party candidate win, how are we still considered free again?:confused::mad:

[EKY.MTN.HUNTER]

the game they are playing is at our expense and peril unfortunately

I could not agree with you more. I think thats the reason why Ron Paul was able to pan up a good amount of attention and support considering his circumstances. He tossed around solutions that he thought best fit the situation and he was able to do that because he's atleast somewhat independent of the 'cogs' that confine most others.

I thought that was one very strong point McCain made lastnight against Obama. He and his record can proove thats he's been willing to reach across party lines and work with the other team if he believes in the specific legislation. Obama (and I know his career has been short) hasn't shown the willingness do that. I think alot of folks are tired of watching congress and the executive battle eachother over energy and economic policies, because as you said, when there is in-fighting to that degree, it's us who get the black eye.

[The scout'n man]

Well I too was not impressed by either one. I also wasn't impressed with the questions. Evey question was on the economy just worded diferently or about a different aspect of it. We all know what the economy is like, we all know each canidates plan for the economy that was all discussed in the last debate. I want to hear about SS, healthcare costs, gun control, schooling, the smaller but yet very important stuff that hits the middle class people like ourselves.
And I loved how they would dance around the subject and then they would get their ball of mud made and then say well "my opponent voted X amount of times aginst what I'm suggesting!" Then the other would stand up and say"I didn't vote that way!" Propose his Idea, get his ball of mud made and say well "My opponent actualy voted x+2 amout of times aginst the idea!" Then time was up and we had to start a new ball of mud! As you can tell I just love politics and the way it all works! Why can't we just find another great Jimmy Carter, a poor ol country boy out to help his own!

[Auk1124]

The soulless, gutless politicians of this country may eventually drive it to ruin. I blame Richard Nixon.

1. Televised Kennedy/Nixon debate. JFK walks out looking like an Ivy League quarterback who just nailed the homecoming queen. Nixon walks out looking like a child molester. From that point on, style rules over substance in politics. Kinda like what happened to Blue Oyster Cult when MTV came on the air.

2. Watergate. An utterly silly bit of political skullduggery is botched, then the coverup becomes a total farce. The result: the curtain is pulled back from the Great and Terrible Oz. From that point on no President can enjoy the mythical status and blind trust of past Presidents. The most qualified people in America no longer want the job.

So in summation, if you would rather vote for the guy who empties ashtrays down at your local pool hall than either Obama or McCain, it's all Nixon's fault.








(Just trying to raise the blood pressure of the old gray-headed Republicans on here :D:D:D:D)

[headoftheholler]

Why can't we just find another great Jimmy Carter, a poor ol country boy out to help his own!
Yeah, Carter seemed to manage Iran real well. . . :rolleyes:

[xHwyLt]

I watched the debate, that a joke. both canidates said the same ol thing just worded things a lil differently at times.... mccain didn't sound presidential at all, he just seems back on his heels and obama is talking loud and proud, while mccain just barely talks.......

the people across the country do seem to be blaming repubs in general for the economic deal.....

as far as these poll numbers go......... man it's really hard for me to beleive........ the last couple months i've been to tennessee, ohio, virginia, west virginia, north carolina, south carolina, georgia, indiana, pennsylvania, and no where that i go traveling up and down the highways do i see many obama signs, very very few....... and when you go into the local restaraunts to sit down and eat, you sure don't hear anyone saying anything good about obama.......... i think they must go to a freakin liberal college campus or something to do there polling........
The only advice I can give you is to vote for McCain, and hope everyone still possesses some common sense. The following article shows why the polls are so screwed up. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27084438 If you read the whole thing you will see that there is still hope for McCain. I for one am not afraid to vote against Obama, even if people accuse me of doing so only because he's black. My answer to them is, I vote against him because he is against everything I believe in, I guess I'm one of those bitter people who cling to their faith and guns. I feel that he'll screw up the country worse than McCain.

[CUZZIN]

After the third person stood up and asked basically the same stupid question, just slightly reworded, I had to quit watching.

Up until the point I stopped... my impression was that they were both terrible. McCain reminded me that he is no friend of conservatives. It's like he and BHO are competing to see who can spend the most money on a bailout.

It's going to take a lot of alcohol for me to vote for him on November 4.

I was thinking I should have gone ahead and bought that executive waterfront home with ten acres on Kentucky Lake for half a million dollars if the damn government was going to bail me out anyway. Now, I'm stuck with a reasonable fixed-rate loan that I can actually afford. I feel kind of cheated. Maybe Obama will buy me a new gun or something after he takes office.Man thats the funniest thing thats been posted,but you are right

[xHwyLt]

Well I too was not impressed by either one. I also wasn't impressed with the questions. Evey question was on the economy just worded diferently or about a different aspect of it. We all know what the economy is like, we all know each canidates plan for the economy that was all discussed in the last debate. I want to hear about SS, healthcare costs, gun control, schooling, the smaller but yet very important stuff that hits the middle class people like ourselves.
And I loved how they would dance around the subject and then they would get their ball of mud made and then say well "my opponent voted X amount of times aginst what I'm suggesting!" Then the other would stand up and say"I didn't vote that way!" Propose his Idea, get his ball of mud made and say well "My opponent actualy voted x+2 amout of times aginst the idea!" Then time was up and we had to start a new ball of mud! As you can tell I just love politics and the way it all works! Why can't we just find another great Jimmy Carter, a poor ol country boy out to help his own!
The only thing that Jimmy Carter did that was worthwhile was his work creating "Habitat for Humanity". I remember trying to buy my first house back when he was President. I couldn't afford to buy a house that cost $70,000 because the interest for the loan was 18%. Most importantly we as a country were embarassed by Iran. I was going home from a regimental reunion at Ft. Benning, GA., when I had the honor of meeting him on the plane. After the Secret Service guys checked the plane, he stopped and spoke to everyone apologizing for delaying the plane. He seemed like a decent human being, but he was a terrible President. With Obama, I'm not even sure you can say he's a decent person. (See article)
http://shootingmessengers.blogspot.com/2008/09/mighty-one-from-little-acorns-grew.html

Vote McCain-Palin

[Ky'sFinest]

The soulless, gutless politicians of this country may eventually drive it to ruin. I blame Richard Nixon.

1. Televised Kennedy/Nixon debate. JFK walks out looking like an Ivy League quarterback who just nailed the homecoming queen. Nixon walks out looking like a child molester. From that point on, style rules over substance in politics. Kinda like what happened to Blue Oyster Cult when MTV came on the air.

2. Watergate. An utterly silly bit of political skullduggery is botched, then the coverup becomes a total farce. The result: the curtain is pulled back from the Great and Terrible Oz. From that point on no President can enjoy the mythical status and blind trust of past Presidents. The most qualified people in America no longer want the job.

So in summation, if you would rather vote for the guy who empties ashtrays down at your local pool hall than either Obama or McCain, it's all Nixon's fault.








(Just trying to raise the blood pressure of the old gray-headed Republicans on here :D:D:D:D)


i remember reading or seeing that george washington did not want to be our first president for fear of what the job would entail. the people insisted.
now we have two monstrous parties fighting for who they can get in there next to help pass yours and mine tax dollars around.

i hate to say it but ive lost all hope in this nation. i am not a america hater, i love what this country was founded upon from the deepest part of my heart. but to watch these so called debates and here them talk of powers not intended for president and hear them politicize everything while people get up and ask questions about the "issues" makes me very depressed.

we are all in the dark because the elite want us to be.

[Auk1124]

i remember reading or seeing that george washington did not want to be our first president for fear of what the job would entail. the people insisted.
now we have two monstrous parties fighting for who they can get in there next to help pass yours and mine tax dollars around.

i hate to say it but ive lost all hope in this nation. i am not a america hater, i love what this country was founded upon from the deepest part of my heart. but to watch these so called debates and here them talk of powers not intended for president and hear them politicize everything while people get up and ask questions about the "issues" makes me very depressed.

we are all in the dark because the elite want us to be.

I understand where you are coming from, it IS depressing as heck. I try to stay positive about where our nation is going but it is darn hard to do when you see who is in charge.

[RLWEBB]

I've got to give a big thumbs up to the two above posts. There is no leadership in Washington at the present time. These men running for office, Bush, Congress, NONE have shown any leadership whatsoever in these trying financial times. Why hasn't any of them came out and said, look were in a bad spot here and it's going to take sacrifice and will likely get worse before it gets any better. That would be real ledership!

[deadaim]

I've got to give a big thumbs up to the two above posts. There is no leadership in Washington at the present time. These men running for office, Bush, Congress, NONE have shown any leadership whatsoever in these trying financial times. Why hasn't any of them came out and said, look were in a bad spot here and it's going to take sacrifice and will likely get worse before it gets any better. That would be real ledership!


If anyone needs to sacrifice it is WASHINGTON they always want to tell us what we need to do like conserve energy, turn down the thermostat, inflate our tires ect While they spend spend spend its time for Washington to do a little sacrifice................:mad:

[Ky'sFinest]

Why hasn't any of them came out and said, look were in a bad spot here and it's going to take sacrifice and will likely get worse before it gets any better. That would be real ledership!


Voters have lost touch on what this country was founded upon and so have the politicians, how convenient.

Ron Paul is the only one i have heard that makes any true sense.

Ron Paul: A Financial PATRIOT Act (http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-10-07/ron-paul-a-financial-patriot-act/)

By admin (http://www.ronpaul.com/author/admin/) • October 7, 2008
by Ron Paul (http://www.ronpaul.com/)
It has not been a good week for the Republic. It took quite a bit of trampling of the Constitution, but the bailout bill passed, as I suspected it would.
The bailout failed the first time it was brought to the House. Undaunted, the Senate pressed on by attaching the bailout as an amendment to another House passed bill that was pending in the Senate. The new bailout version had new taxes, so according to the Constitution it should not have originated in the Senate.
The rallying cry heard all over the Hill the past two weeks was that Congress must act. Our economy is facing a meltdown. Would this bill fix it? Nobody could really explain how it would. In fact, few demonstrated any real understanding of credit markets, of derivatives, of credit default swaps or mortgage-backed securities. If they did, they would have known better than to vote for this bill. All they knew was that this administration was saying some frightening things, and asking for a lot of money. And when has Congress ever been able to come up with a better solution to a problem than to throw more of your money at it? So that is what Congress did, enacting a financial PATRIOT Act in the process.
In its embarrassment at being called a “Do-Nothing Congress” the 110th Congress took decisive action and did SOMETHING. No matter that it was the wrong thing. In fact, it wasn’t until the Senate had a chance to load it up with even MORE spending, when it was finally inflationary and horrible enough, at $850 billion instead of a mere $700 billion, that it passed – and with a comfortable margin, in spite of constituent calls still coming in overwhelmingly against it. 57 members switched their vote!
The market went down anyway. Our nation is now just that much more in the hole. You will pay your part of this mess through inflation, and very likely hyperinflation.
Sometimes doing nothing is much better than thrashing about aimlessly. When one is caught in quicksand, for example, or when one doesn’t understand economics and finds oneself in the position Congress was in for the past two weeks, with decades of irresponsible monetary policy coming to a head. Why should we trust the same people who said just a few months ago that the economy was perfectly sound? The same people who just knew there were weapons of mass destruction? The same people that crammed the PATRIOT Act down our throats? Why not consult the people who had the foresight and understanding to see this coming? They would have recommended such logical actions as repealing the Community Reinvestment Act, which forces banks to make bad loans, or allowing the market to set interest rates instead of the Federal Reserve system. How about abolishing the Federal Reserve altogether? There are many things that could have been done, but don’t expect Congress take a course of action that comes from a place of understanding and competence when they could just spend money.
This bailout will be the legacy of the 110th “Do-Something” Congress, along with record low approval ratings. Here’s hoping the 111th Congress will be a “Do the Right Thing” Congress, and will focus on repealing and abolishing what is wrong with government instead of reinforcing it.

[243win]

I found myself getting pretty angry during the debate. I thought the people who stood up and asked questions had wonderful questions, questions with answers that we're all very concerned with. Issues concerning the economy, energy, foreign policy and such. As a person with moderate political views I would like to think I'm somewhat consistent at viewing both candidates critically. I really don't cheer for one team or the other, I just want the Candidate who has the best answers for all of OUR problems. With this being said, I'll move along to what angered me. When someone stood up and asked the candidates a tough question, the same questions that all of us have and want answers for, both of them were guilty of dancing around the issues all night long. Time and time again, after being asked a difficult question they spoke for minutes (literally) about everything under the sun related to that controversial topic, but never came close to giving an answer that the question asked and demanded. It's like they just try to throw a hand full of mudd at the question and hope it hits various aspect of the issue, but they don't want to give the straight and simple response that would answer the question. I feel like alot of people don't even notice that the candidates are avoiding certain issues in their responses, they get sucked along, watching the mudd fight. All the candidates do in these debates is give safe responses, answers within party lines that don't piss off party leadership and don't anger voters. Then, every once in awhile when that tough question comes back along, they put the tap shoes back on and start dancing until their time limit is up. For example, if I ask you: Do you think Global warming can be attributed to our use of fossil fuels? I don't need you to spend 5 minutes telling me all about economic production, the nature of the atmosphere, the industrial revolution, and the artic habitats affect on polar bear reproduction rates. lol. It's almost comical to set back and watch sometimes. I realize the nature of politics makes it almost impossible for politicians to tell us what they really think. They all have to play the game, if they want to have a future playing the game. I just hope for their sake, they don't believe that they're actually fooling us when they spew this irrelevant stuff for minutes on end. The scary thing is, we don't exactly know how a candidate feels about many issues until we've already elected him our president.


Thats about right niether said nothing:mad::mad::mad: