i need a little help comparing some calibers

[styxvalleydan]

dont know much about these rounds looking at those blrs, browning has im looking for maximum rang for big game , flater trajectory, and plus im just a sucker for those powerhouse rounds
7mm-08 rem vs. 30-06 vs. 7mm rem. mag vs. 300 win mag. vs. 300wsm vs 270 wsm vs 7mm wsm vs 325 wsm sorry to throw so many at you :D

[grandslam]

I have a 7mm-08 that I really like, to me its perfect for deer, plenty of range and not punishing on the shoulder either. For deer hunting I don't think the deer can tell the difference between it and the 30-06, and its easier on me. I know the main guy for the NAHC really likes the 7mm-08 also and talks about it alot in their magazine. That being said I also like the 308.

[canemaker]

It really depends upon what you plan to hunt. Or if you like the noise and recoil of the larger rounds. Accuracy comes from pratice, and pratice means shooting a lot of rounds. The recoil is far greater in the magnum rounds especially with the higher grain bullets, which are often necessary to use to get the most accuracy, as the BC's raise so do the bullet's weight most of the time. Cost is another consideration now days for most, and generally speaking, the larger the cartridge, the higher the cost.

The 7mm -08 you realize, is the .308 necked down to 7mm. And with it goes the ability to use some bullets with very high BC's. It will give you ample "oomph" to cleanly take most game animals in the lower 48 at some very long yardage. The 30-06 is very versatile, it can accommodate ground hogs to the big bears when handload properly. The two 7mm are practically identical, as are the two .300's. Both are fine long range rounds and will cleanly take animals further than it is practical to shoot, in many cases, that is. The .325 is a thumper of a cartridge and is needlessly (imo)over powerful for the lower 48, unless you like the extra margin when taking that raking shot on a bull elk.

I am in the process of having a new rifle built. It's being built on a 700 action with a Dan Lilja barrel in the caliber of 30-06 Ackley Improved. It will give me the ability to use standard 30-06's as well. The P. O. Ackley rounds give their parent cartridges about 200fps + in most cases, with all bullet weights. I intend for it to replace my other rifles, as I am reducing my firearm inventory.

Again, it is all in what you desire, and what you intend to use the cartridge for.

[trust me]

Get a ballistics table and study it till your eyes hurt, then go buy the 7mm-08 and forget all that other stuff.

[AMR40509]

dont know much about these rounds looking at those blrs, browning has im looking for maximum rang for big game , flater trajectory, and plus im just a sucker for those powerhouse rounds
7mm-08 rem vs. 30-06 vs. 7mm rem. mag vs. 300 win mag. vs. 300wsm vs 270 wsm vs 7mm wsm vs 325 wsm sorry to throw so many at you :D


Like others said, it really depends no exactly what you are trying to do. I don't think many would really consider the 7mm-08, 30-06, or 270 wsm 'powerhouse rounds,' but they are a good match for most American big game. I personally find the 7mm-08 and 30-06 a joy to shoot, and can get them in a lighter weight rifle. I don't personally have a use for a 'powerhouse' round but that would be more in the 7mm mags, 300's, and 325 catagory.

Max range is a function of the shooter more then the rifle most of the time. While I feel I'm a pretty good shot, I don't really know that I'd be taking shots with a 300wsm that I'd pass on w/ a 30-06, so why punish myself with the extra recoil?

[C.L.Button]

For BIG game I'd use a 300 Win Mag,,,for all the rest a 7mm-08. ;)

[daking]

1) What Canemaker said.

2) I am a fan of the 308, but the practical difference between that and the 7/08 is marginal. 308 might be easier to find in the boonies, but you'd have a hard time screwing up buying either one.

3) Always go for the short case (.243, 7/08, 308 or 358) in a lever. The shorter the case, the shorter the lever throw. You're buying a lever gun, partially for its speed, right? A longer throw takes a little longer and is a little more awkward.

The BLR is a pretty nice piece. The ones I've fooled with are pretty doggone accurate.

[C.L.Button]

2) 308 might be easier to find in the boonies

A VERY good point. I have had that happen with another caliber. :rolleyes:

[RDL270]

www.chuckhawks.com (http://www.chuckhawks.com)

Ballistics, recoil and rifle comparisions all in one handy website......

I use it quite frequently to compare calibers.

That said, I just bought a 7/08 but have not shot it yet. Have a battery of .300's 300SAUM, 300 weatherby and a 325wsm..... wanted something a little softer on the old shoulder. My mottos are lifes too short to shot an ugly gun and one gun is never enough........

Lets see......I see a 25/06 in my future or maybe a 17 or......

[KentuckyWindage]

well, i love ballistics, so I don't care to do this... all numbers are @ 200 yards

270 WSM 150gr: 2734 fps; 2490 ft pounds

300 Win Mag 180 gr: 2586 fps; 2673 ft pounds

300 WSM 180 gr: 2641 fps; 2788 ft pounds

30-06 180 gr: 2402 fps; 2305 ft pounds

325 WSM 220 gr: 2382 fps; 2772 ft pounds

7MM Mag 150 gr: 2714 fps; 2453 ft pounds

7MM WSM 160 gr: 2682 fps; 2555 ft pounds

7MM-08 140 gr: 2382 fps; 1764 ft pounds

The 270 wsm is the flatest shooting of all the rounds listed. (1.3" high @100 yards, 1.2" high @ 150, dead on at 200, 5.9" low @ 300 yards).

[Auk1124]

Get a ballistics table and study it till your eyes hurt, then go buy the 7mm-08 and forget all that other stuff.

What he said. If I was gonna get a BLR I'd get the 7mm-08, myself. Those new take-down BLR's sound pretty nifty.

[C.L.Button]

www.chuckhawks.com (http://www.chuckhawks.com)

Ballistics, recoil and rifle comparisions all in one handy website......

I use it quite frequently to compare calibers.


Roger I tried to look at this website and it says you have to be a member to see the charts ? :confused:

[RDL270]

CL, I think on some of the features you do have to be a member. Google chuck hawks and I think you can get into some of the charts plus articles. Thats how I found them.
Have a good 4th and grill some pig buddy, see you at the Wildgame Cookoff on the 12th.
R

[Marko]

Go to http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2.guns.htm then choose "Rifle Information" in the Main Site category on the left. If you scroll down there are ballistics and trajectory tables as well as cartridge information.

[C.L.Button]

Thanks guys.

Roger the 12th is iffy for me now. I just signed a contract to cook a bunch of piggys on that date. I have a helper working with me to take care of the cookoff. I am still going to try and atleast stop by for a few minutes to collect my trophy. :eek: :D

[wcpickens]

I hope the 7mm short mag is a good choice. Because I just bought a model 70 in that caliber today. I already had a 30-30, 308, 270, 243 and a 7mm-08.

[Georgia Transplant]

1) What Canemaker said.

2) I am a fan of the 308, but the practical difference between that and the 7/08 is marginal. 308 might be easier to find in the boonies, but you'd have a hard time screwing up buying either one.

3) Always go for the short case (.243, 7/08, 308 or 358) in a lever. The shorter the case, the shorter the lever throw. You're buying a lever gun, partially for its speed, right? A longer throw takes a little longer and is a little more awkward.

The BLR is a pretty nice piece. The ones I've fooled with are pretty doggone accurate.

Thats why I bought the BLR in 308. I've got a 270 yard kill with this gun. It's only 39 1/2 inches long and weighs 6 3/4 pounds. I would'nt trade it for any other. I shoot factory 150 grain that you can find in any country store in the boonies.

[tantor]

When you are on the web site read the articles from Chuck Hawks on the .270. You may be surprised at how good these guns are. I shoot one and it is just as accurate as my brother's rem 700 sps varmit .308.

Check out it's balistics againts other calibers.