Don't mess with Texas

[drakeshooter]

Looks like Texas once again leads the way with protecting homeowners' rights to lethal force. I wouldn't go looking for a fight the way this guy did, but I'm glad that a message was sent to would be burglars to "don't mess with Texas."

http://www.wpsdtv.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=1dda5dd7-a5c5-46cd-b277-7ca0aff6a049

[philipfleek]

Looks like Texas once again leads the way with protecting homeowners' rights to lethal force. I wouldn't go looking for a fight the way this guy did, but I'm glad that a message was sent to would be burglars to "don't mess with Texas."

http://www.wpsdtv.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=1dda5dd7-a5c5-46cd-b277-7ca0aff6a049 Don't think I would have gone that way with it either! GOD BLESS TEXAS....:D

[redneck1377]

Don't think I would have gone that way with it either! GOD BLESS TEXAS....:D


WHY NOT ? He is a good neighbor

[philipfleek]

WHY NOT ? He is a good neighbor
This ain't texas-You shoot someone in Erlanger thats ripping off your neighbor- your leaving for a long while! And to shoot them in the back!!!!!!! Good luck to ya

[EKY.MTN.HUNTER]

wow, there was a lot of debate about this story when it was first posted on here a while back. Can't honestly say that Im surprised with the decision considering where it came from.

[ptbrauch]

I wonder if he's available to watch my house this weekend?

[redneck1377]

This ain't texas-You shoot someone in Erlanger thats ripping off your neighbor- your leaving for a long while! And to shoot them in the back!!!!!!! Good luck to ya



WELL if that is true then you will get to wave bye-bye to mean-old-me

[redneck1377]

this is not Texas but this is the United States of America
ARE WE UNITED STATES OR NOT WHEN IF COMES TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND PROTECTING YOUR NEIGHBOR

[KYCatBirdHunter]

I think there's a difference between protecting your neighbor and protecting your neighbor's property.

[drakeshooter]

I think there's a difference between protecting your neighbor and protecting your neighbor's property.

That is the problem you see. If you crawl inside somebody's window uninvited, then you get what you get imo. I'll bet the next illegal immigrant in Texas will do a double take before burglarizing a home. It won't stop it, but it sure puts the consequences out there on the line doesn't it?

[MsgMills]

More power to the guy from Texas....

[WildmanWilson]

I think it's BS that he shot them in the back as they were leaving his neighbors. He was judge and jurior and had his mind set on killing them because he didnt like what they were doing. Thats just not right. Thats like the wild west vigilante stuff you see on TV. No different than throwing a rope over a tree and hanging them on the spot.

I'm all for a man protecting himself and his love ones with all the deadly force you may need but this is total BS.

[redneck1377]

according to the man lawyer, he only shot them after they came on his properly

[WildmanWilson]

They may have very well been crossing his yard but if you listen to the tape to the 911 operator you can hear his mindset to kill these guys because he didnt like what they were doing. He went after them not the other way around. He was never in danger. If they had been coming into his house then shoot away but the way he did it was totally wrong in my view.

[KY_Fried]

I for one think it's pretty sad to shoot someone in the back over something like this. If he was still in the house and posed a threat then I'd be all for it but this crosses the line in my opinion.

[MsgMills]

I do understand that what the guy did was wrong...But if word of what he did and the fact that he (DID) get away with it. Seems like it might open a few more eyes from the crooks out in this world that...Hey if that guy from Texas got away with shooting two dudes in the back...Then maybe someone will get away with it as well by shooting them in the back or where ever.....

Hopefully it'll make that little light bulb picture pop into thieves heads about the chance of winding up dead now instead of maybe just nicked or wounded in a not so critical area.

[redneck1377]

I was not there to see how it happen SO I will not say that the man are wrong,If a crook are pointing a gun at & intend to kill you but you kill him before he shoot, ARE YOU guilty of MURDER ?
If both you & the crook had got working guns but you get kill when you could had stop him ARE YOU guilty of suicide

[ptbrauch]

If someone stole from you, wouldn't there at least be a little part of you that would want them dead?

[redneck1377]

that depend on what they stole, my safe or my cess pool

[WildmanWilson]

The thing is...they stole nothing from him and he was in zero danger. He just wanted some frontier justice.....end of story.

[philipfleek]

that depend on what they stole, my safe or my cess pool
redneck1377 if you are in the neighborhood of hulbert and locust-do not shoot at any house close. it might be my kids-niece or nephew-or hell i might crawl out a window every now and then! If it ain't your HOUSE DON'T SHOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ma d:

[slickhead slayer]

They may have very well been crossing his yard but if you listen to the tape to the 911 operator you can hear his mindset to kill these guys because he didnt like what they were doing. He went after them not the other way around. He was never in danger. If they had been coming into his house then shoot away but the way he did it was totally wrong in my view.

I am not saying he was right or wrong. But its very easy to avoid this situation,don't break into peoples house.
Some of you sound like the black leaders here in louisville, who protest a black being shot about once a month.
There is a Louisville cop, Mcenzie Mattingly, who is now no longer a police officer. He was fired, and will never be a police officer, he works at the Lowes on HWY 22 now.
He was doing undercover work, and had a black teen try to sell him crack. When he showed him his badge, the teen tried to take his gun. After failing at trying to take the gun, he fled and was shot in the back. The prosecutors used the same logic you guys are, he was no longer in danger.
And that very well may be true. But when you sell crack, and try to take police officers guns, stuff happens.
I am tired of living in a world with so many thiefs, thugs, murderers and rapist. Not saying he was right or wrong, but I won't lose sleep with 2 less thiefs on the street.

[turkeytalker]

OK i have been out of the loop as far as the news goes,but i'm pretty sure they could not prove that the guy shot them in the back?

Possibly the shotgun hit spun them to land on their face:confused:, can they trace ballistic force from a shotgun?


Caught a little on Fox news last night and i thought i heard something in that area.

[mrdux]

Whether you think it's right or wrong, the law in Texas---as it is currently written--says the guy had every right to do exactly what he did. End of story! Some left-wing judge may try to legislate it out of existence but the grand jury didn't indict the guy. I don't know if I would have had the nads to do it as he did but I will use deadly force if MY property, family or life is threatened. I'll also sleep well at night afterwards.

[nwest]

I am not saying he was right or wrong. But its very easy to avoid this situation,don't break into peoples house.
Some of you sound like the black leaders here in louisville, who protest a black being shot about once a month.
There is a Louisville cop, Mcenzie Mattingly, who is now no longer a police officer. He was fired, and will never be a police officer, he works at the Lowes on HWY 22 now.
He was doing undercover work, and had a black teen try to sell him crack. When he showed him his badge, the teen tried to take his gun. After failing at trying to take the gun, he fled and was shot in the back. The prosecutors used the same logic you guys are, he was no longer in danger.
And that very well may be true. But when you sell crack, and try to take police officers guns, stuff happens.
I am tired of living in a world with so many thiefs, thugs, murderers and rapist. Not saying he was right or wrong, but I won't lose sleep with 2 less thiefs on the street.


I could not have said it better myself Slick.

[ptbrauch]

I am not saying he was right or wrong. But its very easy to avoid this situation,don't break into peoples house.
Some of you sound like the black leaders here in louisville, who protest a black being shot about once a month.
There is a Louisville cop, Mcenzie Mattingly, who is now no longer a police officer. He was fired, and will never be a police officer, he works at the Lowes on HWY 22 now.
He was doing undercover work, and had a black teen try to sell him crack. When he showed him his badge, the teen tried to take his gun. After failing at trying to take the gun, he fled and was shot in the back. The prosecutors used the same logic you guys are, he was no longer in danger.
And that very well may be true. But when you sell crack, and try to take police officers guns, stuff happens.
I am tired of living in a world with so many thiefs, thugs, murderers and rapist. Not saying he was right or wrong, but I won't lose sleep with 2 less thiefs on the street.

My thoughts exactly--if you don't want to get shot, don't steal!

In the Mattingly case, I never did understand why the fact that the kid was a drug dealer was swept under the rug. It was always portrayed in the media as "cop shoots a teen" when it would have been more truthful to portray it as "cop shoots a drug dealer".

[redneck1377]

My thoughts exactly--if you don't want to get shot, don't steal!

In the Mattingly case, I never did understand why the fact that the kid was a drug dealer was swept under the rug. It was always portrayed in the media as "cop shoots a teen" when it would have been more truthful to portray it as "cop shoots a drug dealer".


I agree about sweeping it under the RUG but if they had told the jury that the kid was a dealer , the info. would unduly influence the jury

[redneck1377]

redneck1377 if you are in the neighborhood of hulbert and locust-do not shoot at any house close. it might be my kids-niece or nephew-or hell i might crawl out a window every now and then! If it ain't your HOUSE DON'T SHOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ma d:


you need a Bullet-Proof vest because I do drive close to this corner at least once a week, hulbert is a short-cut almost as popular as riggs for drivers going to the city building>>>>>>>>>>JUST KIDDING

[WildmanWilson]

Whether you think it's right or wrong, the law in Texas---as it is currently written--says the guy had every right to do exactly what he did. End of story! Some left-wing judge may try to legislate it out of existence but the grand jury didn't indict the guy. I don't know if I would have had the nads to do it as he did but I will use deadly force if MY property, family or life is threatened. I'll also sleep well at night afterwards.

You are wrong.....the law the Texas says you can use deadly force to protect yourself, family, and property. This guy did none off that. He was the judge and jury for these guy. He got a simpathetic jury and got off. Much like OJ did.

I hate scum as much as the next guy but we can't just go around shooting people because as he put it to the 911 operator " buddy this aint right" and then says..."I'm going to kill'em".

[mrdux]

Read the law! This was discussed at length a couple of nights ago on O'Reilly and the law was read word for word. He had the right to use deadly force if his or his neighbor's property was endangered or if he felt threatened by those doing the stealing.

[drakeshooter]

The neighbor didn't create the situation...the thieves did. It's the same thing that is wrong with this country in that we are always looking for somebody or something to blame instead of personal responsibility. If those two thieves had been at work or at home resting up to go to work, they wouldn't have been shot. End of story.

[MsgMills]

I am not saying he was right or wrong. But its very easy to avoid this situation,don't break into peoples house.
Some of you sound like the black leaders here in louisville, who protest a black being shot about once a month.
There is a Louisville cop, Mcenzie Mattingly, who is now no longer a police officer. He was fired, and will never be a police officer, he works at the Lowes on HWY 22 now.
He was doing undercover work, and had a black teen try to sell him crack. When he showed him his badge, the teen tried to take his gun. After failing at trying to take the gun, he fled and was shot in the back. The prosecutors used the same logic you guys are, he was no longer in danger.
And that very well may be true. But when you sell crack, and try to take police officers guns, stuff happens.
I am tired of living in a world with so many thiefs, thugs, murderers and rapist. Not saying he was right or wrong, but I won't lose sleep with 2 less thiefs on the street.

I thought the kid had a gun stuck in his waist ban when he was found after being shot. I could be wrong, but I am glad a punk is off the streets as well.....He would have never been convicted if I'd of been on the jury.