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AteUp
05-09-2008, 07:46 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24472774/

Inmates think twice about escaping from here
This La. prison is surrounded by bears, gators — and guards

updated 7:35 p.m. ET, Mon., May. 5, 2008
NEW ORLEANS - The way the warden sees it, the more than 400-pound black bear living in the middle of the sprawling Louisiana State Penitentiary is an extra layer of security.

"I love that bear being right where it is," Warden Burl Cain said Monday. "I tell you what, none of our inmates are going to try to get out after dark and wander around when they might run into a big old bear. It's like having another guard at no cost to the taxpayer."

The bear was first seen by an inmate crossing a road in the prison on Friday. It was taking a stroll near the center of the state's only maximum security prison, which is about 115 miles northwest of New Orleans. Most of the roughly 28-square-mile prison is run as a farm, but about 5 1/2 square miles is mostly untouched piney woods.

Prison workers measured the bear's footprints, which were 6 inches in diameter, Cain said.

"Every inch equals 75 pounds, so that would make it about 450 pounds," Cain said. "The wildlife people told us they think it's a big female they've been tracking for a while."

Up to 10 bears on prison grounds
Prison officials believe they have eight to 10 bears on the grounds, said Gary Young, head of the executive management office at the prison.

Maria Davidson, manager of the Large Carnivore Program for the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries, doubts there are that many, but marvels that even one was spotted in an area of high activity such as the center of the prison.

"Bears are actually very shy. Their tendency is to run and hide," Davidson said.

As for acting as an unpaid prison guard, Davidson doubts that the bear would provide much of a deterrent to a fleeing prisoner.

"We've never had a predatory attack by a black bear in Louisiana, to our knowledge, on pets or livestock," she said. "As for a bear coming out and rushing an inmate, I don't see that happening."

The prison, known as Angola, is isolated and has plenty of other dangerous wildlife, including alligators, rattlesnakes and wild pigs, Young said. The last recorded escape was nearly three years ago, and the inmate was quickly recaptured before leaving the grounds.

killinmammals
05-09-2008, 10:04 AM
Maria Davidson, manager of the Large Carnivore Program for the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries, doubts there are that many, but marvels that even one was spotted in an area of high activity such as the center of the prison.

"Bears are actually very shy. Their tendency is to run and hide," Davidson said.

As for acting as an unpaid prison guard, Davidson doubts that the bear would provide much of a deterrent to a fleeing prisoner.

"We've never had a predatory attack by a black bear in Louisiana, to our knowledge, on pets or livestock," she said. "As for a bear coming out and rushing an inmate, I don't see that happening."


why didn't she just lie and say "yeah these bears are really aggressive, they love to attack humans when provoked and alot of times for no reason, they are bloodthirsty. We are actually having them trained to attack on command so nobody gets out alive." :D:D Maybe that would be more of a deterant, now inmates will think they won't get eaten and maybe give it a run

EKY.MTN.HUNTER
05-09-2008, 12:19 PM
Thats what I was thinkin. The title of the article and the wardens opening remarks really conflict with the wildlife specialists conclusions.

AAAJohn
05-09-2008, 01:13 PM
Yep, they need to bait the bears and wolves in with body parts from the prisoners.

AteUp
05-09-2008, 02:34 PM
Thats what I was thinkin. The title of the article and the wardens opening remarks really conflict with the wildlife specialists conclusions.

Didn't you take psychology?;)

EKY.MTN.HUNTER
05-09-2008, 02:37 PM
Didn't you take psychology?;)

Nope! But I think I catch your drift. Wouldn't it remain more psychologically effective if the news folks didn't add in the specialists comments?

lonesomepine
05-09-2008, 05:48 PM
I used to hunt near Angola prison,bear or not,it's a tough place for somebody if they did escape,swamps with Gators and plenty of snakes,the only real patrol is on the Mississippi river where it's over a mile wide there,miles of hot mosquito infested woods wouldn't be a good time.
Of course the prison has a huge pauper graveyard located on it too.I saw a red wolf in that area back in the 70's and saw the hide from a cougar this cajun I worked with had killed.

Redfishman
05-09-2008, 06:25 PM
Angola,("The Farm") has one road in and the same out and extremely isolated with the Tunica hills on one side- a huge bend of the Mississippi River and a thick swamp. It is a perfect habitat for everything. One good thing for the taxpayers- they are and have been completely self sufficient for all their food including other prisons .
If anyone has some connections to fish the legendary ponds and lakes at the "Farm" ---Please share them!!!

AteUp
05-09-2008, 06:27 PM
Nope! But I think I catch your drift. Wouldn't it remain more psychologically effective if the news folks didn't add in the specialists comments?

I'm guessing the prisoners don't have the internet.:D