HOLD ON........ You ain't seen notin yet!!

[barney]

I grow produce for the fresh market, selling at farmers markets, and produce auctions. And I have been gathering supplies this winter, getting ready for the up and coming season,........and all I can say is, WOW!

Counting fuel, seed, fertilizer, and plastics........as of now, my expenditures have almost doubled, this season!.......If you buy most of your food, GET READY!;)

[redneck1377]

may I bring my family to camp on your farm and buy the produce that we need to eat from you

[barney]

may I bring my family to camp on your farm and buy the produce that we need to eat from you
I have everything I need except,I'm runnin low on, .45 caliber round balls, and black powder, and maybe a nice piece of cloth. The wife needs a new Sunday dress, if you have some of these items to barter.........your welcome here!:D

[redneck1377]

the 45 caliber rb is not any trouble to buy but picking out a dress for the wife will get both you and me in trouble,

[Valley Station]

Dang-g-g-g-g, It's gettin' expensive to raise your own.
Priced some sweet corn (NK199) and was $10.99 a pint.

[Rabbit Runner]

Dang-g-g-g-g, It's gettin' expensive to raise your own.
Priced some sweet corn (NK199) and was $10.99 a pint.
wait till you buy the fertilizer!!!

[barney]

Dang-g-g-g-g, It's gettin' expensive to raise your own.
Priced some sweet corn (NK199) and was $10.99 a pint.
The corn I grow is a synergistic hybrid, (SE x SH2) it sells by seed count. I pay $7.75/1000, I plant about 20,000/acre. Add fert., herbicide, insecticide and diesel = arm and a leg/acre!

[barney]

Just saw this story on ABC, Its gona get bad.;)http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4628103&page=1

[CUZZIN]

No,It's already bad, just going to get alot worse!

[Scott7m]

The corn I grow is a synergistic hybrid, (SE x SH2) it sells by seed count. I pay $7.75/1000, I plant about 20,000/acre. Add fert., herbicide, insecticide and diesel = arm and a leg/acre!

what kinda corn you growin barney?

i always grow something called honey select

[barney]

what kinda corn you growin barney?

i always grow something called honey select
First, let me say, I haven't came across a sweetcorn I could not eat. But most need to be eat as soon as possible, after harvest, for highest quality, as the sugars, convert to starches, rapidly!
The synergistic corn I was refering to, is a bicolor or, AKA peaches & cream, but is avalible in all the colors..........But, sweetcorns have come a long way, in the last 20 years or so. The older standard corns, AKA, SU's, have mostly been replaced with more modern, market specific bred corns. Such as the SE's and SH2's, which have better eating, and sugar holding qualities. The SE's came along first with the discovery, of a "more shriveled" kernel, in a standard variety. The more wrinkled kernel meant, more sugar, and less starch, in that grain. And the way I take it, became the parent, of all of the newer varietys?

The SE's, are sweeter and more tender than, the older SU's, hold longer and most have a VERY high eating quality. This is because of, the starch/sugar ratio, within the kernel. This is the class of corn I have grown for the last 18 years.

The SH2's, on other hand are, VERY, VERY, sweet, and their sugars, are very slow to covert to starches. So they can be shipped, nation wide, and still be "sweet". This is the corn you, more than likley, buy at Kroger....and it is still edible. But....although, its sweet, it has a tough kernel and lacks that creamy satisfying taste, a person normaly associates with fresh picked sweetcorn.

The synergistics, haven't been around all that long. They are a cross of the SE's and the SH2's, They have good holding abilitys, a creamy, tender, satisfying texture, from the SE parent, and a very, very, sweet taste, with slow conversion of sugars, to starches, from the SH2 parent..........In other words, a GOURMET CORN!

I still grow some SE's, for their cool soil vigor, but the synergistics are quickly becoming mine, and my customers, favorites.....by far!!

[Al]

Barney what are a couple of the common names of the synergistics?

[barney]

Barney what are a couple of the common names of the synergistics?
"Honey Select" (79 days) is a nice yellow. And "Montauk" (79 days, also) is the bicolor, I currently grow. Although, seedling vigor is just a little weak, and should be planted in warm soil, you will be rewarded!

I have never had more compliments, and requests for variety name ever, since I have offered these corns, to my customers! The "Mountauk" also, has one of the largest, high quality ears, of any variety I have ever grown.

[Al]

The synergistics are called sy, correct? So do you plant your sweet corn the first of may?

You say seed vigor is a little week, that means you have to go back and replant in the spots that that dont come up?

How does the Mountauk freeze, I see that Harris has 1000 for $10.
Thanks, Al

[barney]

The synergistics are called sy, correct? So do you plant your sweet corn the first of may?

You say seed vigor is a little week, that means you have to go back and replant in the spots that that dont come up?

How does the Mountauk freeze, I see that Harris has 1000 for $10.
Thanks, Al
Maybe this link will help a little,http://www.johnnyseeds.com/Assets/products/SweetCornTypes.pdf

Most times, they are just known as, "synergistics" or "triple sweets". and most of the sweeter varietys, lack that "explosive" seedling vigor, of the older types, but catch up quickly. most should be planted in May in our area, when the soils are warm, and stable.

Montauk is one of the best "freezer" corns I have grown yet. This comes from its SH2 parentage, which helps it remain "crisper" when frozen, rather than soggy, like most!...............Although, no corn from the freezer, is like fresh picked.

[Al]

Thank you Barney.
Last yr I grew Kandy corn and it is very good frozen but the ears didnt fill out well.

Barney Im planting 2 1/2 ac of field corn next weekend, the 20th,this is a food plot for deer that I leave standing all yr. I have no idea what the maturity date is, but most is 100+ days
My garden that has my sweet corn is very close mabey 50'. I was planning to plant it the next weekend the 27th. Do you see a problem there.

[GSP]

Al,
Corn actually transplants well. You can start say 25 seeds now and transplant when you sow. This will give you staggered maturity.
I helped my uncle one year and we transplanted with a tobacco setter that was equiped for hydro transplants. He had corn at July 1 to sell. You can name your price at that time of year.:cool:;)

[scratch]

Barney..Itchy's supplies were delivered yesterday...He did'nt know I had ordered his seed corn...He picked up a bag and just about flipped out when he saw the price tag:eek:...ended up with the providence bi-color..82 day...gonna have it ready to float monday afternoon..400 cells at a setting..two seed per cell...5 days between settings....sound about right?????

[barney]

Thank you Barney.
Last yr I grew Kandy corn and it is very good frozen but the ears didnt fill out well.

Barney Im planting 2 1/2 ac of field corn next weekend, the 20th,this is a food plot for deer that I leave standing all yr. I have no idea what the maturity date is, but most is 100+ days
My garden that has my sweet corn is very close mabey 50'. I was planning to plant it the next weekend the 27th. Do you see a problem there.
Al, there will be no problem if they don't tassel at the same time. I have had field corn and sweetcorn close before too. I always planted them the same day, and never had a problem, seems they tasseled about 2 weeks apart.(on average)If your garden is upwind from your field corn, this would add a level of security also.

If we have a warming trend, I would plant the same day. As long as the soil is warm enough, to promote a good germ. on the sweetcorn, it will stand cooler temps. as well as field corn, once its up. I have planted this variety, in late April before, on a warming trend......with no problems. A good seed treatment is critical, one containing an insecticide such as "Gaucho". most poor stands are not caused by "rot" but rather, seed eating, soil dwellers....like wireworms and seed corn maggots. these vermin thrive in cool, damp spring soil, and are the #1 cause of poor stands!

[barney]

Barney..Itchy's supplies were delivered yesterday...He did'nt know I had ordered his seed corn...He picked up a bag and just about flipped out when he saw the price tag:eek:...ended up with the providence bi-color..82 day...gonna have it ready to float monday afternoon..400 cells at a setting..two seed per cell...5 days between settings....sound about right?????
I have never grown Providence, but it sounds good and is a synergistic also, I'm sure, you will be well pleased!

As far as the floating gos, it works very well, as long as you don't let the plants get to old! There is a window of only about a week.........that it MUST go into the ground. I have seen acres tasseled out before, that were only a foot tall.........and that included, the tassel!


Farmers that attempt to transplant sweet corn, often end up with stunted plants with near-normal sized ears that develop just above ground level, which are tough to pick at harvest. Tom and Steve avoid stunted sweet corn plants at their farm by transplanting in a timely manner, so that seedling roots don't become overcrowded in the cells, and by encouraging steady plant growth with adequate water and nutrients. The black plastic and row covers also help provide warmer soil and air temperatures to help sustain plant growth.

[12 pointer]

Well, I can say this, I know who to PM if I ever palnt any corn. Very good info Barney.

[barney]

Well, I can say this, I know who to PM if I ever palnt any corn. Very good info Barney.
Thanks!!!:)

[tamorris]

WE froze corn last year and it turned it too mushy or watery.It turned out to watery or mushy and had to throw it away.We were very dissapointed because we love sweet corn .I put out 6 rows of serendipity because i could not find the triple sweet honey select and any of the local southern states.Do you have any tips on how to freeze corn without it being watery.Did we blanch to long in to hot of water.I do not want to make sme mistake twice.Thanks

[barney]

WE froze corn last year and it turned it too mushy or watery.It turned out to watery or mushy and had to throw it away.We were very dissapointed because we love sweet corn .I put out 6 rows of serendipity because i could not find the triple sweet honey select and any of the local southern states.Do you have any tips on how to freeze corn without it being watery.Did we blanch to long in to hot of water.I do not want to make sme mistake twice.Thanks
The Serendipity is a very nice variety. It is a Triple sweet that has more SE genes, than SH2, so it is delectable for fresh eating...but because of the tender kernels, gets soggy when frozen. Without a doubt, the SH2's, will freeze better than any other class, and are very sweet. They will retain a measure of this "crispness" when frozen. But I don't like them as well for fresh eating, because they lack the "creamy starchy texture" I like in fresh corn.

We have been freezing the Synergistics, the last few years, with good results. We don't boil to blanch, but rather just steam until the color deepens, a couple of minutes. we then drop into ice water till cool. the ear is then dried, vacuum sealed, and frozen. With "very good" results.:)

[killinmammals]

barney..you are a corn expert! I have never heard anybody talk about corn the way you do, and I have lived in the country almost my entire life. All this talk has got me really missin my dads gardens when I was younger! I can't wait to get back out in the country and start my own garden!! Nothing like fresh veggies!

[Luckybuck]

If you want a very good sweet corn just plant merit and silver queen, they both take 90 days and will crossbreed making it look like peaches and cream. It is much cheaper than buying it the other way AND it does pollinate well.