XU 8 in a row

[daking]

Xavier just beat Rhode Island to make it 8 in a row and they're 23-4. They're ranked #10, ahead of UL (18), IU (15) and Vandy (20) and UK (unranked). Who's your daddy now?

[Scott7m]

Xavier just beat Rhode Island to make it 8 in a row and they're 23-4. They're ranked #10, ahead of UL (18), IU (15) and Vandy (20) and UK (unranked). Who's your daddy now?

your not my daddy, my act score isn't high enough to be your boy!

xavier? shewwww...... Lord help us

[lonesomepine]

I like Xavier,but it's a good thing they aren't in the SEC,they'd be behind LSU somewhere

[KYHUNTER14]

Keep up the good work XU.

[Allison77]

I would like to see Xavier in the Big East Conference and see how good they really are. My bet is that they would'nt stand a chance against Rutgers.

[Art]

Memphis could crush Xavier, and their players can't even spell Memphis.

[daking]

So what you're telling me is the coaches poll and the AP poll are made up. They are inaccurate. Some teams get to be in the top twenty-five (or in some cases, the top ten) to give it balance? You're telling me that a team ranked 10 from the A-10 is by no means as good as an unranked team from the SEC? That a team ranked 10 from the A-10 couldn't hold its own against the Big East who doesn't have a team in the top ten? Is that what you're telling me?

Right now, any team in the country would have their hands full with Memphis.

Lest we forget, Butler (who the hell ever heard of Butler) is also in the top ten. The way I see it, the pressure is squarely on teams like Memphis, UT, Duke, et.al. to not screw up. The guys like Butler and XU can play wide open and go for broke.

Sorry UK fans. This year the team from this region wearing Navy Blue won't have the most-favored letter on its front.

[ryan hickey]

i think they are just tellin u to wait til march - the real XU will show up then.:)

[daking]

Sure will. With an almost-certain first round bye, (A-10 champs, ranked in the top ten and by then having beaten 4 ranked opponents) will already be way far ahead of the cats.

[buckfever]

I like Xavier,but it's a good thing they aren't in the SEC,they'd be behind LSU somewhere

LMAO. . . .as though the SEC is a powerhouse basketball conference this year. We've moved on to basketball. :rolleyes:

[buckfever]

Xavier just beat Rhode Island to make it 8 in a row and they're 23-4. They're ranked #10, ahead of UL (18), IU (15) and Vandy (20) and UK (unranked). Who's your daddy now?

Keep bragging on Xavier and badmouthing the state schools, and before too long, Xavier might very well overtake Duke as the most despised team on kyhunting.com. :D

[PSEaxis]

I think Purdue and Xavier might surprise some people in the postseason. Both teams have great bench play and can finish really well.

[daking]

Hell, Buck, at various times I've been the most hated poster on Kyhunting.com. What difference does it make?

[KYhunter79]

Xavier would win the SEC and finish 5thish about in the Big East. Can't wait to see Xavier in the tourney..I know RI is tough and all but...

[ryan hickey]

Sure will. With an almost-certain first round bye, (A-10 champs, ranked in the top ten and by then having beaten 4 ranked opponents) will already be way far ahead of the cats.



who said anything about cats?:confused: this would be a great thread - IF IT WAS MARCH!!:)

[daking]

So was Dayton, IU and K-State

[KYhunter79]

Dang, I can't believe Hickey didn't say anything about Xavier being better than tennessee.




NOTE: I don't really think XU is better than UT.

[KYHUNTER14]

Dang, I can't believe Hickey didn't say anything about Xavier being better than tennessee.




NOTE: I don't really think XU is better than UT.



The key to baiting is to not make it look so much like bait, :D

[predator]

Hell, Buck, at various times I've been the most hated poster on Kyhunting.com. What difference does it make?

Hey Terry, you know we still like you, and you like putting that target on your own back for these guys to shoot at.:D

[daking]

Screw 'em Coach. They can shoot at the big dog. Most of these folks are UK fans and they won't be anywhere near the big dance.

Now, Pred, for the real question....Would you be willing to take Sonny Boy and me noodling in front of our docks and nearby? I've got a 19 year old who's not afraid of people chasing him around ice rinks with sticks. He wants to grab fish. Can you hook us up (so to speak)?

[Split_Ear]

Keep bragging on Xavier and badmouthing the state schools, and before too long, Xavier might very well overtake Duke as the most despised team on kyhunting.com. :D

It's already happening....I used to cheer for Xavier, now I hope they get their a$$ whupped just to shut him up!!

[Scott7m]

It's already happening....I used to cheer for Xavier, now I hope they get their a$$ whupped just to shut him up!!

me too..............

[turkeytalker]

Sorry UK fans. This year the team from this region wearing Navy Blue won't have the most-favored letter on its front.


I'm not certain of that yet.

[ryan hickey]

Screw 'em Coach. They can shoot at the big dog. Most of these folks are UK fans and they won't be anywhere near the big dance.

Now, Pred, for the real question....Would you be willing to take Sonny Boy and me noodling in front of our docks and nearby? I've got a 19 year old who's not afraid of people chasing him around ice rinks with sticks. He wants to grab fish. Can you hook us up (so to speak)?


cats are goin to the dance this year, sorry daking. u and art both better have your fingers crossed.;)

[buckfever]

Dang, I can't believe Hickey didn't say anything about Xavier being better than tennessee.

NOTE: I don't really think XU is better than UT.


To be honest, I don't think the statement about Xavier winning the SEC is all that outlandish. I think UT is probably a little better but not much, and the SEC is definitely down this year. For what it's worth, I'd say that Xavier would be vying for the Big East crown as well.

UT's good, as is Xavier, but neither is great. UT may be ranked #2 right now, but I just don't think they're anywhere near that good. I'd take any of the following schools in a heads-up bet to go deeper into the tourney than the Vols: UNC, KU, Memphis, UCLA.

I think Tennessee belongs in the next tier with the Dukes, Xaviers, Longhorns, and Hoyas of the world.

[ryan hickey]

nice post bf, your dukies ain't sooo hot either!!:p

[daking]

Thing is with probably four or five standouts and a large field of very solid, closely matched second-tier teams, a couple of upsets and this thing is wide open. A case could be made for at least ten teams to win the big game. Smart money will bet on those four or five big-timers (UCLA, Memphis, KU et.al.) but I'm looking forward to the tourney. There are going to be a lot of good games. Some of which my beloved Muskies will play. Would it be that the Blue Devils and the Musketeers met. This board would become a two-ring circus with a lot of cheesed off people sniping from the sidelines. If that game happens, Buck, I'll take you down to the Knights to watch it and keep you awash in a sea of the beer of your choice.

[KYhunter79]

I don't think UT is the number 2 team in the country. I think they are head and shoulders better than anyone in a weak SEC. I think UT is a little better than Xavier. Not a whole lot.

In all honesty I would expect Xavier to finish 4th in the Big East. I think UL, G'town, and ND are better teams.

[buckfever]

nice post bf, your dukies ain't sooo hot either!!:p

Yep, although played in Winston Salem, Wake exposed some of their weaknesses. The announcers were talking about Duke's outside shots not falling. While this is true, I think Duke's fortunes rise and fall on their perimeter defense. When facing quick guards who don't turn the ball over, opponents can dribble/drive and/or pound the ball inside against Duke.

All 5 of Duke's starters fouled out against Wake. While some of that can be ascribed to tight officiating which prevented Duke from really pressuring the ball, Wake's young guards did a fantastic job of breaking down the defense and dishing off for easy dunks when help rotated over.

Would it be that the Blue Devils and the Musketeers met. This board would become a two-ring circus with a lot of cheesed off people sniping from the sidelines.

Well, since everybody already hates Duke, you'll have to really pour it on to bring Xavier anywhere close to that level. ;)

I'd like to see that match-up, b/c barring some kind of collapse by one of the teams, the game would probably be in the Elite 8 or later. I watched the UT vs. Xavier game earlier this season, and it looked like Xavier was going to win it. They had a 4 point lead with a few minutes left. UT really turned on the pressure in the last 5 minutes and forced a bunch of TO's. Duke would do the same thing, but I personally think Duke is a better team than UT.

Duke's advantage over most other teams is that they have 8 guys that can all score and handle the basketball. Duke vs. Xavier would be an interesting match-up.

[naturalelite]

I don't think UT is the number 2 team in the country. I think they are head and shoulders better than anyone in a weak SEC.


Man let it go.

Your obsession with the SEC has got to stop. Break the Chain of addiction. Seek Professional help. Please, if not for you own sake for the sake of your loved ones.

[buckfever]

I don't think UT is the number 2 team in the country. I think they are head and shoulders better than anyone in a weak SEC. I think UT is a little better than Xavier. Not a whole lot.

In all honesty I would expect Xavier to finish 4th in the Big East. I think UL, G'town, and ND are better teams.

If you're so high on the Big East, would you care to place a wager that no team from the Big East makes it to the Final Four? Say $20????

I like UofL's chances more than any other Big East school, but UofL is just too inconsistent, IMO, to advance through four games as a probable 3-5 seed.

I think ND is a pretender, although they are led by a former Dukie. :D

Georgetown is good, but recent games have exposed their perimeter weaknesses and lack of athleticism. When they can't get the ball inside and control the boards, they're just a little better than average.

UConn has depth and inexperience problems, but they have enough talent to make a run.

IMO, the Big East is solid from top to bottom, but Xavier is every bit as good as any team in the Big East.

[KYhunter79]

Man let it go.

Your obsession with the SEC has got to stop. Break the Chain of addiction. Seek Professional help. Please, if not for you own sake for the sake of your loved ones.

What I have isn't even considered any obsession compared to what you UK fans have for the Big Easy, or the Big Least, or the Big Feast or what ever you boys affectionately call it this week. ;)

If you're so high on the Big East, would you care to place a wager that no team from the Big East makes it to the Final Four? Say $20????

I like UofL's chances more than any other Big East school, but UofL is just too inconsistent, IMO, to advance through four games as a probable 3-5 seed.

I think ND is a pretender, although they are led by a former Dukie. :D

Georgetown is good, but recent games have exposed their perimeter weaknesses and lack of athleticism. When they can't get the ball inside and control the boards, they're just a little better than average.

UConn has depth and inexperience problems, but they have enough talent to make a run.

IMO, the Big East is solid from top to bottom, but Xavier is every bit as good as any team in the Big East.

I'll bet $20 that the Big East has more teams left in the sweet 16 than any other conference.

[predator]

Screw 'em Coach. They can shoot at the big dog. Most of these folks are UK fans and they won't be anywhere near the big dance.

Now, Pred, for the real question....Would you be willing to take Sonny Boy and me noodling in front of our docks and nearby? I've got a 19 year old who's not afraid of people chasing him around ice rinks with sticks. He wants to grab fish. Can you hook us up (so to speak)?

I'll see what I can do.

[buckfever]

I'll bet $20 that the Big East has more teams left in the sweet 16 than any other conference.

Heck, if the Big East has 3 teams that are better than the #10 ranked team, I figured you'd like your odds.

The Big East has 16 teams and the most ranked teams so, by all accounts, they ought to put a big number of teams in the tourney, and they very well might put more teams in the Sweet 16 than any other conference.

I'll tell you what I'll do though. I'll take your $20 bet (no conference puts more teams in the Sweet 16 than the Big East) if you'll take my $20 bet that a different conference will put more teams in the Elite 8.

Deal?

[KYhunter79]

Heck, if the Big East has 3 teams that are better than the #10 ranked team, I figured you'd like your odds.

The Big East has 16 teams and the most ranked teams so, by all accounts, they ought to put a big number of teams in the tourney, and they very well might put more teams in the Sweet 16 than any other conference.

I'll tell you what I'll do though. I'll take your $20 bet (no conference puts more teams in the Sweet 16 than the Big East) if you'll take my $20 bet that a different conference will put more teams in the Elite 8.

Deal?

Sounds fair enough to me.

[buckfever]

Sounds fair enough to me.

Does that mean "yes"? :D

I would normally take "sounds fair enough to me" as an acceptance, but I'm a little hesitant ever since WBBP screwed me on our bet after I said that Duke wouldn't pay a nickel to the "victim" in the alleged rape case, and he later claimed that "victims" included the lax players. ;)

[daking]

Buck, I recognize our bet and if I lose, I'll pay. Any chance you want to double up?

[KYhunter79]

Does that mean "yes"? :D

I would normally take "sounds fair enough to me" as an acceptance, but I'm a little hesitant ever since WBBP screwed me on our bet after I said that Duke wouldn't pay a nickel to the "victim" in the alleged rape case, and he later claimed that "victims" included the lax players. ;)

Yeah, that means yes.

[Art]

Does that mean "yes"? :D

I would normally take "sounds fair enough to me" as an acceptance, but I'm a little hesitant ever since WBBP screwed me on our bet after I said that Duke wouldn't pay a nickel to the "victim" in the alleged rape case, and he later claimed that "victims" included the lax players. ;)


He still owes me $100!:D

[daking]

WBBP is in an awkward position to pay off any gaming debts.

I will point out to you that it's 11 minutes from being 9 in a row.

It's going to be a hell of a tournament. I hope that the Muskie's coach doesn't go to Bobby Knight Land

[teacher]

To be honest, I don't think the statement about Xavier winning the SEC is all that outlandish. I think UT is probably a little better but not much, and the SEC is definitely down this year. For what it's worth, I'd say that Xavier would be vying for the Big East crown as well.

UT's good, as is Xavier, but neither is great. UT may be ranked #2 right now, but I just don't think they're anywhere near that good. I'd take any of the following schools in a heads-up bet to go deeper into the tourney than the Vols: UNC, KU, Memphis, UCLA.

I think Tennessee belongs in the next tier with the Dukes, Xaviers, Longhorns, and Hoyas of the world.
Tennessee a little better than Xavier??

[lonesomepine]

Dec 22,2007 Tennessee 82 @ Xavier 75


Jan 22 2008 Tennessee 66 @ Kentucky 72


Jan 16 2008 Xavier 59 @ Temple 78

Dec 29 2007 Florida 86 vs Temple 69

Dec 15 2007 Xavier 55 @ Arizona State 77

Nov 21 2007 LSU 87 vs Arizona State 84

[buckfever]

Tennessee a little better than Xavier??

Dec 22,2007 Tennessee 82 @ Xavier 75

Jan 22 2008 Tennessee 66 @ Kentucky 72

Jan 16 2008 Xavier 59 @ Temple 78

Dec 29 2007 Florida 86 vs Temple 69

Dec 15 2007 Xavier 55 @ Arizona State 77

Nov 21 2007 LSU 87 vs Arizona State 84

I'm not sure I understand all these scores or why Teacher believes my comments were outlandish?

Xavier lost to UT by 7, but neither of you guys obviously didn't watch the game. Xavier was actually winning by 4 with few a couple minute left and had led for a good part of the game. UT fought back and took the lead, and the final score was the result of Xavier's last ditch efforts to foul and shoot 3's.

I guess the scores are an attempt to suggest that Xavier isn't even as good as LSU or Florida, let alone UT??? Well, Xavier beat IU by 15 which trounced UK. Xavier beat Auburn by 30. Florida has a bunch of bad losses of its own, including to LSU.

I'm not sure why anyone would have problems with admitting that Xavier's a good team?? I think UT is a little deeper and better, but not by a whole lot (hence my comment, "UT's a little better but not much"). I'd guess if they squared off again, UT would be about a 5 point favorite. IMO, Xavier would probably be the second best team in the SEC this year, and would give UT a run for its money for the SEC crown.

Absent a miracle, LSU has no chance of going to the tourney. Florida is definitely in, but I doubt there's an expert in the country that would say that this young, rebuilding Florida team is better than Xavier.

[daking]

Ten straight. 4-1 against ranked teams. We'll see come tournament time.

[Scott7m]

Ten straight. 4-1 against ranked teams. We'll see come tournament time.

if we do? who will care? like 40 people? lol

[Split_Ear]

if we do? who will care? like 40 people? lol

Come on now Scott, 40??? Don't you think that's pushing it a bit? Let's not get carried away.

[teacher]

I'm not sure I understand all these scores or why Teacher believes my comments were outlandish?

Xavier lost to UT by 7, but neither of you guys obviously didn't watch the game. Xavier was actually winning by 4 with few a couple minute left and had led for a good part of the game. UT fought back and took the lead, and the final score was the result of Xavier's last ditch efforts to foul and shoot 3's.

I guess the scores are an attempt to suggest that Xavier isn't even as good as LSU or Florida, let alone UT??? Well, Xavier beat IU by 15 which trounced UK. Xavier beat Auburn by 30. Florida has a bunch of bad losses of its own, including to LSU.

I'm not sure why anyone would have problems with admitting that Xavier's a good team?? I think UT is a little deeper and better, but not by a whole lot (hence my comment, "UT's a little better but not much"). I'd guess if they squared off again, UT would be about a 5 point favorite. IMO, Xavier would probably be the second best team in the SEC this year, and would give UT a run for its money for the SEC crown.

Absent a miracle, LSU has no chance of going to the tourney. Florida is definitely in, but I doubt there's an expert in the country that would say that this young, rebuilding Florida team is better than Xavier.
Tenn. is ranked #1 now, do you still think there not anywhere near that? I did watched the Tenn. vs. Xavier game.. Tenn. almost lost to Georgia and LSU.. They did lose to KY.. How would Xavier be the number 2 team if in SEC?

[buckfever]

Tenn. is ranked #1 now, do you still think there not anywhere near that? I did watched the Tenn. vs. Xavier game.. Tenn. almost lost to Georgia and LSU.. They did lose to KY.. How would Xavier be the number 2 team if in SEC?

Teacher - Other than the Vols, who's better in the SEC than Xavier? The only other possibility would be Vandy. Look at Miss St, UK and Arkansas for crying out loud. . . All got off to lousy starts against every decent non-directional team they played. None started to win until they got into conference play.

If you think the SEC is that good this year, I'll tell you what I'll do. . . I'll bet you $50 that a team from the ACC goes further in the tourney than a team from the SEC. If you're willing to take that one, I'll make the same bet with you for Big 12, the Big East and the Pac-10. That would put us up to $200 total . If you'll take those bets, then what the heck, I'll even throw in Conference USA (i.e. Memphis) and the Atlantic 10 (i.e Xavier). The entire bet would $300.

While I'm at it, I'll also bet an additional $50 that Tennessee will lose one of its last 4 games of the regular season. I think UT's very good, but I don't think they're the best team in the country. . . and I'm absolutely convinced that the SEC isn't even close to being the best conference in the country.

[teacher]

If the #1 team in the country isn't the one with the title right now, then who is? Thanks for the offer on the bets.. However, I don't gamble or play lottery.. We have a governor planning education cuts, so I have to save every penny I make..

ACC, ACC, we hear it every year.. Or the SEC is down.. Funny how SEC teams win the national title in both football and basketball..

[buckfever]

If the #1 team in the country isn't the one with the title right now, then who is? Thanks for the offer on the bets.. However, I don't gamble or play lottery.. We have a governor planning education cuts, so I have to save every penny I make..

ACC, ACC, we hear it every year.. Or the SEC is down.. Funny how SEC teams win the national title in both football and basketball..

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Personally, I don't think UT is better than KU, UNC or UCLA. If the rankings are accurate, it would necessarily mean that Xavier is, in fact, the 2nd best team in the SEC, b/c they're ranked higher than any SEC team other than UT.

ACC, ACC???? I never said the ACC is anything special this year. I think UNC is outstanding and a better team the Tennessee. I think Duke is about in the same boat as Tennessee (i.e. about a Top 10 school). The rest are mediocre.

If Lawson gets healthy, I'd consider UNC to be the team to beat in the NCAA. And believe me, as a Duke grad, I hate UNC more than anybody on this board.

I think UT is a very good b-ball team, but I don't think that they're the best in the land. Who knows? I may be completely wrong, but I just don't see UT winning it all.

[Scott7m]

Come on now Scott, 40??? Don't you think that's pushing it a bit? Let's not get carried away.

compared to uk that would be about what it would amount to.......

doesn't matter, whatever i said you'd have something to say!

[Art]

Let me jump in here if I may... I think what really got all this started (IMO) was that Daking seemed to be implying that XU has a better program then UK, among other regional schools. Then it moved on to the SEC... No one can deny that Xavier has had some decent teams over the past 5 or 6 years, and this year may be their best. This is obviously a down year for UK and the SEC BUT that doesn't mean Xavier is a better program based on one year's results.

The bottom line is this... If we had to place a million dollars on the line for who would win a national championship in the next 5 years (this year excluded), would anyone in their right mind pick XU over UK, TN, FL, Vandy, or Arkansas?

[Split_Ear]

compared to uk that would be about what it would amount to.......

doesn't matter, whatever i said you'd have something to say!


I know thats what it would amount too... I was agreeing with you, I was trying to be funny!! I guess I should have put the :D:D:D.

[slickhead slayer]

I'm not sure I understand all these scores or why Teacher believes my comments were outlandish?

.

I tried telling him that you are "Captain Unbiased", and everything you say is Gospel, but nobody believes me. I told him that if he didn't believe me, he could ask you, and you would tell him how unbiased you are.:D

[Scott7m]

I know thats what it would amount too... I was agreeing with you, I was trying to be funny!! I guess I should have put the :D:D:D.

yeah.. lol................. at least we agree on something!

[daking]

No, I think the salient issue is (as the grandma in Hoosiers pointed out), the sun doesn't shine on the same dog's ass every day.

[teacher]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Personally, I don't think UT is better than KU, UNC or UCLA. If the rankings are accurate, it would necessarily mean that Xavier is, in fact, the 2nd best team in the SEC, b/c they're ranked higher than any SEC team other than UT.

ACC, ACC???? I never said the ACC is anything special this year. I think UNC is outstanding and a better team the Tennessee. I think Duke is about in the same boat as Tennessee (i.e. about a Top 10 school). The rest are mediocre.

If Lawson gets healthy, I'd consider UNC to be the team to beat in the NCAA. And believe me, as a Duke grad, I hate UNC more than anybody on this board.

I think UT is a very good b-ball team, but I don't think that they're the best in the land. Who knows? I may be completely wrong, but I just don't see UT winning it all.
I just assumed you were big on ACC.. After all that was your first bet that an ACC team would go farther.. Xavier is ranked higher than SEC teams, except Tenn. because they don't play SEC teams.. That's my opinion.. I agree with Tenn not winning it all.. In fact, I hope you're right about them losing one of the last regular seaon games.. Hopefully, Ky will be that team to do it..:D

[KY_Fried]

I'm a UK fan first and foremost but I've always liked Xavier. If they could hold on to a coach for more then a couple of years they'd be an elite program by now.

[buckfever]

Let me jump in here if I may... I think what really got all this started (IMO) was that Daking seemed to be implying that XU has a better program then UK, among other regional schools. Then it moved on to the SEC... No one can deny that Xavier has had some decent teams over the past 5 or 6 years, and this year may be their best. This is obviously a down year for UK and the SEC BUT that doesn't mean Xavier is a better program based on one year's results.

The bottom line is this... If we had to place a million dollars on the line for who would win a national championship in the next 5 years (this year excluded), would anyone in their right mind pick XU over UK, TN, FL, Vandy, or Arkansas?

I'd definitely agree with you that Xavier's "program" isn't even close to UK's and for the most part, prime recruits would rather play in the SEC rather than the A-10, especially schools like Florida and Tennessee which are pretty "hot" right now.

But Arkansas and Vandy????? Gotta give the Hogs props for their past titles under Richardson, but I doubt recruits view the other SEC schools as some kind of Hoops Mecca.

[buckfever]

I just assumed you were big on ACC.. After all that was your first bet that an ACC team would go farther.. Xavier is ranked higher than SEC teams, except Tenn. because they don't play SEC teams.. That's my opinion.. I agree with Tenn not winning it all.. In fact, I hope you're right about them losing one of the last regular seaon games.. Hopefully, Ky will be that team to do it..:D

I listed the ACC first in the bet, simply b/c I think UNC is the best team in the country, and other than UT, I think Duke has a far better chance of advancing deep into the tourney that any other school in the SEC.

I disagree that the SEC teams are "beating each other up", and that Xavier would get beaten down by the SEC grind. The SEC is 5th in the RPI rankings behind the ACC, the Big 12, the PAC10 and the Big East.

http://kenpom.com/confrank.php

It's possible that the SEC is actually the best conference and the RPI is whacked, but judging by the SEC's performances against non-conference foes this year, I doubt it.

Again, I ask you. Other than UT, which SEC schools are better than Xavier this year?

[Scott7m]

a lot of them I'd say...... Vandy, UT, Arkansas, Florida, UK... when you don't play a tough schedule it's hard to say how good you are..

just like if memphis were in the sec they'd probably already have 2 or 3 losses....

I really don't know who's better.. thats all speculation, my first comment was just to get you guys riled up............ but all we can do is speculate...

[buckfever]

I tried telling him that you are "Captain Unbiased", and everything you say is Gospel, but nobody believes me. I told him that if he didn't believe me, he could ask you, and you would tell him how unbiased you are.:D

Yeah, I don't understand that teacher. . . .:(

I sent him an email telling him that I was in fact "Captain Objective", but I guess he didn't believe me. :(

Slick - You obviously know how truly biased I am against the SEC and UK. Maybe I'm just stupid and can't get that prejudice out of my system, so I'll offer you the same bet that I offered teacher.

Better jump on this offer while it's hot. . . .THINK about how badly you'll be able to rub my nose in it once the SEC shocks the world by putting 8 teams in the Sweet 16, including the Cats :). Even if an SEC team doesn't take the crown, the SEC will surely advance deep enough for you to fleece me of most of my money and pride.

All the b-ball gurus will be busy falling all over themselves talking about how the SEC had been so grossly underrated and "disrespected" this year, and, not only will I be forced to concede that the SEC is the "best" conference in football, you'll also be able to lord over me the fact that the SEC is also, far and away, the best conference in basketball too.

I'll be holding my breath in the interim. ;)

[buckfever]

a lot of them I'd say...... Vandy, UT, Arkansas, Florida, UK... when you don't play a tough schedule it's hard to say how good you are..

just like if memphis were in the sec they'd probably already have 2 or 3 losses....

I really don't know who's better.. thats all speculation, my first comment was just to get you guys riled up............ but all we can do is speculate...

Scott - Do you think that UK is one of the 25 best teams in the country right now? If so, where would you rank them?

How about Florida and Arkansas? Where would you rank them right now?

[teacher]

I listed the ACC first in the bet, simply b/c I think UNC is the best team in the country, and other than UT, I think Duke has a far better chance of advancing deep into the tourney that any other school in the SEC.

I disagree that the SEC teams are "beating each other up", and that Xavier would get beaten down by the SEC grind. The SEC is 5th in the RPI rankings behind the ACC, the Big 12, the PAC10 and the Big East.

http://kenpom.com/confrank.php

It's possible that the SEC is actually the best conference and the RPI is whacked, but judging by the SEC's performances against non-conference foes this year, I doubt it.

Again, I ask you. Other than UT, which SEC schools are better than Xavier this year?
Exactly!!! The Atlantic 10 is 7th in the rankings, 2 behind the down and weak SEC.. I ask you, how does that make Xavier the second best team if in SEC?

[buckfever]

Exactly!!! The Atlantic 10 is 7th in the rankings, 2 behind the down and weak SEC.. I ask you, how does that make Xavier the second best team if in SEC?

Is that a joke? Just come right out and say it: "Xavier plays in a mid-major conference, which basically mean any conference other than the SEC, so they can't possibly be the 10th best team in the country." ;)

You might have a point if Xavier wasn't dominating the A-10, but they're 12-1 in their conference, and the next closest team is 8-4.

You just won't answer the question: Other than Tennessee, who else in the SEC is better than Xavier?

IMO, the only other team that is even arguably better is Vandy. Although Miss St has a decent squad, they got beat by virtually every non-directional Div. I school they played (and yes, they also lost to one of those - S. Alabama) before the SEC schedule got going.

[KYhunter79]

You just won't answer the question: Other than Tennessee, who else in the SEC is better than Xavier?

Scott already answered the question!

a lot of them I'd say...... Vandy, UT, Arkansas, Florida, UK.

Hahahaha.:D

I gotta do this more often. I have more fun just reading the delusional responses than actually posting my own.

[slickhead slayer]

Yeah, I don't understand that teacher. . . .:(

I sent him an email telling him that I was in fact "Captain Objective", but I guess he didn't believe me. :(

Slick - You obviously know how truly biased I am against the SEC and UK. Maybe I'm just stupid and can't get that prejudice out of my system, so I'll offer you the same bet that I offered teacher.

Better jump on this offer while it's hot. . . .THINK about how badly you'll be able to rub my nose in it once the SEC shocks the world by putting 8 teams in the Sweet 16, including the Cats :). Even if an SEC team doesn't take the crown, the SEC will surely advance deep enough for you to fleece me of most of my money and pride.

All the b-ball gurus will be busy falling all over themselves talking about how the SEC had been so grossly underrated and "disrespected" this year, and, not only will I be forced to concede that the SEC is the "best" conference in football, you'll also be able to lord over me the fact that the SEC is also, far and away, the best conference in basketball too.

I'll be holding my breath in the interim. ;)

You have never heard me say the SEC is good this year, and you won't. I happen to agree that they are down this year. My only disagreement with you is that I do believe Tenn is pretty good. Remember, they just beat the #1, undefeated team in the country at home. That team, Memphis, has played the 2 best teams in the Big east, G-town and UConn, beat them both, one even by double digits.
I happen to believe that there isn't that many really good teams in college basketball this year. And I don't see any conference having a "bunch" of good teams. I like Carolina, I like Kansas, I like UCLA, I like memphis, i like IU, I like Tenn. Thats 6 top teams and each one is from a different conference.
I do think the Big east is the only power conference without a dominant team. For a league with 18 teams, or however many they have, thats not very impressive. Most people don't even agree on who the best team in the big east is.

[teacher]

Is that a joke? Just come right out and say it: "Xavier plays in a mid-major conference, which basically mean any conference other than the SEC, so they can't possibly be the 10th best team in the country." ;)

You might have a point if Xavier wasn't dominating the A-10, but they're 12-1 in their conference, and the next closest team is 8-4.

You just won't answer the question: Other than Tennessee, who else in the SEC is better than Xavier?

IMO, the only other team that is even arguably better is Vandy. Although Miss St has a decent squad, they got beat by virtually every non-directional Div. I school they played (and yes, they also lost to one of those - S. Alabama) before the SEC schedule got going.
Are you talking about the 8-4 team St. Joe that almost beat Xavier? Or what about the St. Louis team that only lost by two? Who has Xavier beaten to deserve the rankings? Who do they play besides Temple, who beat them?:eek:

[buckfever]

You have never heard me say the SEC is good this year, and you won't. I happen to agree that they are down this year. My only disagreement with you is that I do believe Tenn is pretty good. Remember, they just beat the #1, undefeated team in the country at home. That team, Memphis, has played the 2 best teams in the Big east, G-town and UConn, beat them both, one even by double digits.
I happen to believe that there isn't that many really good teams in college basketball this year. And I don't see any conference having a "bunch" of good teams. I like Carolina, I like Kansas, I like UCLA, I like memphis, i like IU, I like Tenn. Thats 6 top teams and each one is from a different conference.
I do think the Big east is the only power conference without a dominant team. For a league with 18 teams, or however many they have, thats not very impressive. Most people don't even agree on who the best team in the big east is.

I agree (except IU). Good post. I also think UT is "pretty good", actually "very good", and they may even turn out to be "great". They played an awesome game against Memphis, the best game I've seen them play this year. Frankly, they surprised me. They were much quicker than I gave them credit for, and I realized that they had serious threats other than Lofton. I didn't think that Chisholm and co. could stop Memphis in the paint, but I'll be darned if UT didn't get more offensive rebounds and hold their own down low.

They have the talent to win the NCAA, but I still think there are some other teams that are a little better (at least talent-wise).

I'd also agree that no team from the Big East is "dominant" or will win the NCAA. That being said, I don't think this is a down year for that conference. 1/5 of the top 25 hails from the Big East. That's pretty stout competition when you also have WVa, Pitt, Villanova, Syracuse and Seton Hall.

[buckfever]

Are you talking about the 8-4 team St. Joe that almost beat Xavier? Or what about the St. Louis team that only lost by two? Who has Xavier beaten to deserve the rankings? Who do they play besides Temple, who beat them?:eek:

Let's see, here's a list of the nonconference schools they've played that either come from "power" conferences or will make the tourney:
IU - Win
Creighton - Win
Cincy - Win
Arizona St - Loss
Tenn - Loss
Kansas St - Win
Virginia - Win
Auburn - Win


Why can't you just answer the question: Other than UT, who in the SEC is better than Xavier?

I stated my own opinion that Tennessee was a little better than Xavier, but I'd give the nod to Xavier over any other SEC team.

I'm begging you though. . . .please don't say UK. . . :eek:

[maxcam]

Look fellas, quit bickering with all the experts.....Just face it he SEC sucks......Ohio State will be the first to tell you just how bad......:rolleyes:

I haven't looked yet but I wouldnt be surprised if DUKE gets a number one seed and just happens to play in Greensboro again this year.....

[teacher]

Let's see, here's a list of the nonconference schools they've played that either come from "power" conferences or will make the tourney:
IU - Win
Creighton - Win
Cincy - Win
Arizona St - Loss
Tenn - Loss
Kansas St - Win
Virginia - Win
Auburn - Win


Why can't you just answer the question: Other than UT, who in the SEC is better than Xavier?

I stated my own opinion that Tennessee was a little better than Xavier, but I'd give the nod to Xavier over any other SEC team.

I'm begging you though. . . .please don't say UK. . . :eek:
I'll agree that Xavier is the 10th best team in the country if you agree Tenn. is the best team in the country.. Since you're going by rankings, that would only be the fair thing to do..

[buckfever]

Look fellas, quit bickering with all the experts.....Just face it he SEC sucks......Ohio State will be the first to tell you just how bad......:rolleyes:

Ohio State is something like 17-10 and 8-6 in the Big Ten (another conference that is way down this year). OSU beat Florida by 13 in Columbus and lost to Tenn by 5 in Knoxville.

Were you trying to make a point?

I haven't looked yet but I wouldnt be surprised if DUKE gets a number one seed and just happens to play in Greensboro again this year.....

If Duke wins the ACC tourney and beats UNC one more time, they probably will get a #1 seed and would deserve it.

I think it's more likely, however, that they'll lose 2 more games (probably both to UNC) and get a #2 (or possibly #3) seed.

[buckfever]

I'll agree that Xavier is the 10th best team in the country if you agree Tenn. is the best team in the country.. Since you're going by rankings, that would only be the fair thing to do..

You need to change your name to the Artful Dodger. :p

[Scott7m]

Scott already answered the question!



Hahahaha.:D

I gotta do this more often. I have more fun just reading the delusional responses than actually posting my own.

OR delusional, you could read the rest of my post and see that the only reason i posted that was to get a reaction out of you guys....

works everytime! lol

[Scott7m]

Scott - Do you think that UK is one of the 25 best teams in the country right now? If so, where would you rank them?

How about Florida and Arkansas? Where would you rank them right now?

No, I don't think UK is a top 25 team... I would rank them about 35-40th....

[teacher]

You need to change your name to the Artful Dodger. :p
Again, I will agree to doing this only if you change your name to Mr. Delusional..

[maxcam]

No I wasnt trying to make a point.......All the pontificators said the SEC was down in 1998 as well.....

[buckfever]

To be honest, I don't think the statement about Xavier winning the SEC is all that outlandish. I think UT is probably a little better but not much, and the SEC is definitely down this year. For what it's worth, I'd say that Xavier would be vying for the Big East crown as well.

UT's good, as is Xavier, but neither is great. UT may be ranked #2 right now, but I just don't think they're anywhere near that good. I'd take any of the following schools in a heads-up bet to go deeper into the tourney than the Vols: UNC, KU, Memphis, UCLA.

I think Tennessee belongs in the next tier with the Dukes, Xaviers, Longhorns, and Hoyas of the world.

Tennessee a little better than Xavier??

Is that a joke? Just come right out and say it: "Xavier plays in a mid-major conference, which basically mean any conference other than the SEC, so they can't possibly be the 10th best team in the country." ;)

You might have a point if Xavier wasn't dominating the A-10, but they're 12-1 in their conference, and the next closest team is 8-4.

You just won't answer the question: Other than Tennessee, who else in the SEC is better than Xavier?

IMO, the only other team that is even arguably better is Vandy. Although Miss St has a decent squad, they got beat by virtually every non-directional Div. I school they played (and yes, they also lost to one of those - S. Alabama) before the SEC schedule got going.

While I'm at it, I'll also bet an additional $50 that Tennessee will lose one of its last 4 games of the regular season. I think UT's very good, but I don't think they're the best team in the country. . .

I'm pretty warm so far. Where are ya, teacher???? ;);)

[ryan hickey]

dang that BF - he is SOOO smart, just ask him!!:rolleyes:

[buckfever]

dang that BF - he is SOOO smart, just ask him!!:rolleyes:

Heck, sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. In this case, I've gotta toot my own horn. . .since nobody else will!!! :D

[teacher]

I'm pretty warm so far. Where are ya, teacher???? ;);)
LOL!!! I'm here, good call on Tenn. not closing out the rest of the season.. Although, looks like you finally got an answer to your question on who else in SEC could beat Xavier..:D

[KYhunter79]

LOL!!! I'm here, good call on Tenn. not closing out the rest of the season.. Although, looks like you finally got an answer to your question on who else in SEC could beat Xavier..:D

Well, since Tennessee beat Xavier and Vanderbilt beat Tennessee and UK beat Tennessee and Vanderbilt, then if my logic is correct UK should be number one in the nation???:confused:

[teacher]

Well, since Tennessee beat Xavier and Vanderbilt beat Tennessee and UK beat Tennessee and Vanderbilt, then if my logic is correct UK should be number one in the nation???:confused:
You said it not me..

Hey everybody, look what 79 is saying..:rolleyes:

[buckfever]

LOL!!! I'm here, good call on Tenn. not closing out the rest of the season.. Although, looks like you finally got an answer to your question on who else in SEC could beat Xavier..:D

Vandy actually looks pretty darned strong. I might actually revise my hypothetical projection and say that Xavier is only the 3rd best team in the SEC.

The big problem Vandy's got is keeping their center out of foul trouble. Ogilvy seems like he's always in foul trouble, and Vandy needs him in the games.

[nwest]

Looks like the streak ended tonight,

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=280662603

[KYhunter79]

Hahaha.

Congrats to St. Joes which ended their 2 game losing streak (And 5 of the last 7).

[daking]

GFY

The streak ended at 11. We'll see what happens.

[Split_Ear]

St. Joe's??? Geez

[teacher]

St. Joe's??? Geez
They had trouble with St. Joe's the last time they played them.. No surprise here..

[Split_Ear]

They had trouble with St. Joe's the last time they played them.. No surprise here..

Exactly, and Dayton & Rhode Island & Charlotte..

[buckfever]

Heck, if the Big East has 3 teams that are better than the #10 ranked team, I figured you'd like your odds.

The Big East has 16 teams and the most ranked teams so, by all accounts, they ought to put a big number of teams in the tourney, and they very well might put more teams in the Sweet 16 than any other conference.

I'll tell you what I'll do though. I'll take your $20 bet (no conference puts more teams in the Sweet 16 than the Big East) if you'll take my $20 bet that a different conference will put more teams in the Elite 8.

Deal?

Kyhunter79 -

Well, it looks like our bet was a wash. You won $20 on the Sweet Sixteen, and I won on the Elite 8.

[KYhunter79]

Kyhunter79 -

Well, it looks like our bet was a wash. You won $20 on the Sweet Sixteen, and I won on the Elite 8.

Yep. Oh well.