Lca Busted

[Art]

http://www.kentucky.com/254/story/285296.html

[teacher]

Good!! I wish more schools would get caught, like Clark..
Lexington Catholic did this stuff for years..

[Art]

Good!! I wish more schools would get caught, like Clark..
Lexington Catholic did this stuff for years..


Sure did, and still do apparently as recently as the last bust in 2005. You don't go from worst to first without the help of the mighty dollar in sports whether it's in HS or the pros.

I was always suspicious of how great inner city athletes wound up playing for these schools with tuitions that are higher than some colleges and sometimes we find out. I guess I'll stop now, I heard the private schoolies running towards this thread.:D

[AteUp]

I was poor and non-athletic and still went to a private school!:eek: If private schools are buying athletes, how come they can't get any good basketball players?:eek:

[droopy]

I was poor and non-athletic and still went to a private school!:eek: If private schools are buying athletes, how come they can't get any good basketball players?:eek:
north laurel has been buying all of them!

[slickhead slayer]

I was poor and non-athletic and still went to a private school!:eek: If private schools are buying athletes, how come they can't get any good basketball players?:eek:

Thats one thing nobody can answer. Trinity and ST. X combined have 1 state championship in basketball. If somebody is recruiting at St X and Trinity, they must be related to Tubby.

[Art]

I was poor and non-athletic and still went to a private school!:eek: If private schools are buying athletes, how come they can't get any good basketball players?:eek:

That may be the case in the Ville but LCA and LexCath have pretty good teams here.

[teacher]

I was poor and non-athletic and still went to a private school!:eek: If private schools are buying athletes, how come they can't get any good basketball players?:eek:
Because KHSAA busts them..

[teacher]

Thats one thing nobody can answer. Trinity and ST. X combined have 1 state championship in basketball. If somebody is recruiting at St X and Trinity, they must be related to Tubby.
How's the football programs there?:rolleyes:

[AteUp]

How's the football programs there?:rolleyes:

Pretty good. I guess they only bust them for basketball????? They are good in football because they have a tradition for being good. If a kid grows up playing organized football in grade school and is good, he wants to go to one of the catholic powers for high school. Hell, he's going to go to a catholic high school anyway, why not go to one of the football powers? The catholic grade schools offer many more opportunities for kids to play ball than the public middle schools. It's only normal they would be funneled to a catholic high school.

[teacher]

Pretty good. I guess they only bust them for basketball????? They are good in football because they have a tradition for being good. If a kid grows up playing organized football in grade school and is good, he wants to go to one of the catholic powers for high school. Hell, he's going to go to a catholic high school anyway, why not go to one of the football powers? The catholic grade schools offer many more opportunities for kids to play ball than the public middle schools. It's only normal they would be funneled to a catholic high school.
Thats what many said about Lex. Catholic basketball, before KHSAA found other reasons..

[AteUp]

Well if they do it, I guess all private schools do too.:rolleyes:

[teacher]

Well if they do it, I guess all private schools do too.:rolleyes:
You said it, not me..

I think many people would be surpised on how often this occurs.. I can tell you that around here, many public school athletic directors have been pushing for the state to have a seperate sweet sixteen for private schools.. I think that says it all right there..

[Captain Farrel]

Someone told me that Scott county does this also. But i just asked him what would Scott county have to offer that would be different from any other private school. He was silent...

[slickhead slayer]

How's the football programs there?:rolleyes:

Like was stated, Catholic grade schools have 6,7 and 8th grade football, when I was growing up, public schools didn't have football. Thats the difference.
Do you think St X and Trinity recruit for football, but not for basketball? Thats makes no sense. You can make a hell of a basketball team with just a couple of bigtime players, football takes lots of players.
If St X and Trinity recruited they would be good at basketball. They aren't.
Most people like you are just bitter from getting beat by the private schools for so long.
If lex schools recruit, they deserve to be busted.

[daking]

I went to St. X. I'm part of a four generation string there. If we wanted to buy teams, there would be no problem raising enough money to buy the talent necessary to win every state championship in every sport.

St X 's biggest problem is what to do with all the kids that want to go there and play sports, not recruiting.

It's all about jealousy. It's that little weasel Sears who is mad because his school can't compete.

[Art]

I was never jealous. My HS won various state championships while I was there, which was the first 4 years the school was open. We didn't recruit, nobody was given money, hell, we didn't even have our own facilities for a couple of years.. We had to sell candy to buy the basics. I was the person who painted the scoreboard. I helped carry hundreds of buckets of rocks off a hillside just so we could build our field.. Personally, I find that more impressive then anything a cash cow private school accomplishes.

I can't speak for Louisville schools, but here in Lexington the private schools have a long history of cheating/ buying their way to success.

[AteUp]

You said it, not me..
I can tell you that around here, many public school athletic directors have been pushing for the state to have a seperate sweet sixteen for private schools.. I think that says it all right there..

So that means the private schools are cheating?? Because the public schools want their own playoffs? Seems that proving they are cheating would be a better route than taking your ball and playing somewhere else.

[Art]

So that means the private schools are cheating?? Because the public schools want their own playoffs? Seems that proving they are cheating would be a better route than taking your ball and playing somewhere else.


Well, they seem to be doing a pretty good job of proving it here in Lexington. I guess it has to start somewhere.;) Personally, I could care less because I've been out of HS a long time. I do think it is unfair when a publically funded program from a rural area must compete with a high dollar operation that can offer athletes a competitive advantage through better resources. Even still I think that the public schools more than hold their own when it comes to sports.

[ptbrauch]

Guys, you get out of just about anything what you put into it. I went to a Catholic school and some sports we were successful and others we were not. I don't think you'd call us a powerhouse in any of them. The public school in the same city was not nearly as successful. However, the public school in the neighboring city (and our main rival) has one of the most successful football programs in the state.

What's the difference? One, success begats success. Good programs can attract good athletes which further enhances the program. You don't have to recruit kids to go to those schools, they want to go there themselves.

Secondly, tradition and bonds. I always found it interesting that we had to buy our books each semester like you do in college, whereas the public schools were given their books. To take a chemistry class, we had to pay a lab fee. If we broke something in school, we were expected to pay for it. If you wanted to be on the team, you were expected to help raise money by selling tickets to the raffle. If you wanted to run track, you had to practice in the multi-tiered parking lot. By having to make due with less, bonds were formed. Through those bonds to the school, you build an extensive alumni network. Through that network, you get the support needed to build a successful team.

Tell me, how many of you who attended public high schools have ever donated money to the school? Not just bought a ticket for a raffle, but just wrote a check to the school? How many public schools hold fundraisers to build a new chemistry lab? How many of you have ever thought that if you had the money, you'd build your alma mater a new stadium, track, baseball field, or something else?

Finally, when it comes to successful public school athletic programs, what about the kids who use relative's addresses to go to the "better" public school? I know for a fact when I was in school of several people who did not live in Ft Thomas, but yet attended Highlands. And when I lived in London, I know of several people who used different addresses from where they actually lived to attend South Laurel.

[Xi Bowhunter]

Good!! I wish more schools would get caught, like Clark..
Lexington Catholic did this stuff for years..

I don't know anything about this stuff, but I have ALWAYS heard rumors about how crooked Lexington catholic is. I am a Catholic, and I always hate to hear more bad publicity about the catholics and our schools.

[ptbrauch]

It's all about jealousy. It's that little weasel Sears who is mad because his school can't compete.

I thought it was ironic that when all of the private/public debate really got started 2 years ago, Somerset actually made it to the championship game in football. Where they promptly got beat by a Catholic school!! Go Breds!

[teacher]

So that means the private schools are cheating?? Because the public schools want their own playoffs? Seems that proving they are cheating would be a better route than taking your ball and playing somewhere else.
I believe this whole thread was started by a private school being caught..

[teacher]

Like was stated, Catholic grade schools have 6,7 and 8th grade football, when I was growing up, public schools didn't have football. Thats the difference.
Do you think St X and Trinity recruit for football, but not for basketball? Thats makes no sense. You can make a hell of a basketball team with just a couple of bigtime players, football takes lots of players.
If St X and Trinity recruited they would be good at basketball. They aren't.
Most people like you are just bitter from getting beat by the private schools for so long.
If lex schools recruit, they deserve to be busted.
I played football in the 5th grade at Wayne County. Does that make them a powerhouse football program? I never said St X or Trinity recruit for any sport, but if they did I wonder what sport it would be.. I know we are in a basketball state, but there are schools more interested in the football programs..

For the record I'm not bitter.. 1991 was the last time Fleming County had beaten Lexington Catholic.. Guess who was on that Fleming team? That was my senior year, and it was on their home court..

[ptbrauch]

Its a bit ironic that because a few private schools have traded around some state championships the last few years, everyone wants to cry foul. They always bring up Trinity and St X, or now LCA. But what you never hear in the conversation is Beechwood or Highlands. How do you explain their success? Those two public schools have more football championships combined than Trinity and St X do combined.

So either it is possible to win legitimately, or there's some public schools that cheat also. Which is it?

[teacher]

Its a bit ironic that because a few private schools have traded around some state championships the last few years, everyone wants to cry foul. They always bring up Trinity and St X, or now LCA. But what you never hear in the conversation is Beechwood or Highlands. How do you explain their success? Those two public schools have more football championships combined than Trinity and St X do combined.

So either it is possible to win legitimately, or there's some public schools that cheat also. Which is it?
I have no idea when, why, or, how this thread became an private vs. public debate..

Of course public schools cheat when they can.. I didn't bring up LCA, the KHSAA did when they caught them cheating.. Christian school cheating, now thats ironic.

[ptbrauch]

J-town coach suspended on recruiting violations
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880129047

By Jason Frakes
jfrakes@courier-journal.com
The Courier-Journal




Jeffersontown High School boys' basketball coach Jeff Morrow has been suspended for four games and his program has been placed on probation for violation of recruiting rules.

In announcing the sanctions today, the Kentucky High School Athletic Association said Morrow made improper contact with an athlete who was a student at another school and who subsequently transferred to J'town.

Morrow denied those allegations in an interview tonight.

Neither the KHSAA nor J'town officials would identify the athlete. However, sophomore basketball (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880129047#) player Aaron Cosby recently enrolled at J'town after playing all of last season and two games this season at Manual.

Cosby, a 6-foot-2 guard, already has committed to play at the University of Massachusetts. As a freshman, he averaged 11.1 points and 3.9 rebounds.

J'town's probation affects only boys' basketball and is for the remainder of this season and next season. Principal Marty Pollio said he does not expect the penalty to affect the player's eligibility for next season.

"To my knowledge, no," Pollio said.

Morrow, in his ninth season at J'town, began serving the suspension tonight as the Chargers beat Central Hardin 73-64. Assistant coach Bryan Terry took over head-coaching duties tonight and also will lead the team in its next three games — Tuesday vs. Nelson County, Feb. 8 at Ballard and Feb. 12 vs. Manual.

In an interview tonight, Morrow said, "I completely deny any recruiting or any wrongdoing in this situation.

" The reason I have chosen to accept this is that I think it's in the best interest of my team for this not to be hanging over our heads. I want to put this behind us and be ready for postseason play."

Neither Morrow nor Pollio would go into specifics about the charges.

Pollio said the school self-reported an incident to the KHSAA, not knowing whether it was a rules violation.

"At that time, the commissioner (Brigid DeVries) decides whether it's a violation or not," Pollio said. "She found it to be illegal contact (between Morrow and the player)."

Pollio said that he recommended a four-game suspension for Morrow and that DeVries accepted it. DeVries was unavailable for comment.

"I can't speak for her, but I feel like she felt we handled it properly as a school and an athletic department," Pollio said.

Pollio said he did not know whether the suspension would include withholding pay from Morrow.

Jason Frakes can be reached at (502) 582-4046.