Baiting?

[Xtreme]

I have been told that the next commision meeting will discuss outlawing all baiting next year. Your thoughts folks?

[Multidigits]

I personally am against the ban of baiting. Especially the way the Dept. is sliding it in the back door on the CWD issue. It's no secret that the Dept. has wanted this for a long time, and now have he ammo to see it through. I would like to see the evidence that baiting has caused a disease. It's had for them to prove, unless they admit that Kentucky has CWD already. I don't bait but do feed from time to time on my farm. I'm afraid if it wasn't for that, I'd never see a deer on the place. If I voted today, I'd vote NO.

[Birdman]

We discussed this in our federation meeting Sunday. Our commissioners is againist changing the law. He says the way it's written it could pervent food plots. I'm not for that for dawm sure. I would say NO also Multi. Hell this maybe the first time we've ever agreed on anything. We're getting better.

[rlb165]

I don't plan on baiting anymore, but I would hate to see a ban. Wisconsin has banned baiting, (for 3 years I think), and I would like to see how that affects their season this year. From what I've read, baiting up there is (was) a BIG deal.

[Highbow]

I am totally against passing any such law. I have worked to set my small area up to hunt on and if I didn't feed the wildlife I wouldn't have much to see or hunt. It is my land and I pay the tax, they could pass what they want but they couldn't tell me how to do it on my property. I know when I'm doing damage or harm to the animals and have enough sense to stop if something doesn't work correctly.
Sorry , I didn't mean to preach but when it is mine, I have a hard time letting someone else rule it.
Nathan Frisby

[Multidigits]

Fact--Enforcement personnel have wanted this passed for a long time. The Meade Co. CO made the statement 10 years ago during a hunter safety class speech that the Dept. was going to outlaw it. That's before anyone knew how to spell CWD. The reason was that they could not get convictions on turkey baiters because it was legal to feed deer year round.

[ez]

what is the definition of baiting?.........planting the seed packets that the state has passed out for deer and turkeys to eat? throwing down grain?..... cocaine/salt area?..........ez

[GSP]

Leave it alone. We have enough laws and the Dept is short on CO's already.

[grouseguy]

Put me in as a solid NO.

[Highbow]

If this is not opposed they will use CWD to push this through and they have NO PROOF that this will spread anything as of yet. Have you seen the new Dream Season 5 video some great CWD facts in this video.

[Multidigits]

The highly esteemed Dr. Kroll, has been quoted as saying that at this point, there is no reason to panic about this disease(CWD). He seems to think that we can learn to "manage" the disease, much the same as we do with other diseases that effect the animals we hunt.

Dr. Kroll and Dr. Woods both feed deer on their own lands and use this tactic to survey their herd for QDM purposes, in conjunction with a game camera. Texas probably has more high fence operations and more feeders than any state in the U.S. and they remain CWD free at this point. The baiting in Wisconson is often done by truck loads of produce dumped on the ground, a bit different than having a spin cast feeder and using corn.

[ez]

a firm NO!!!!!! first the state needs to address the importation of new animals.......ELK into the state before i even consider any other
or evidence to show otherwise!!!....What is the definition of baiting????(see above post).........ez

[MULESKINNER]

Multi,
I didn't know that about Texas. If what you said is true, then there is no way they should be linking CWD to baiting or high fence ranchers. Like you said, I bet Texas has more than anyone.
Anyhows...As far as baiting goes I say the law works pretty good right now. The only draw backs are, as we know, when its too close to a dove field or turkey woods. I wish there was something we could change about that. Last year a member on here called "WALL" I think, had to cancel his dove shoot after all his hard work and money because of a baiting issue. But as it is now I say DON'T OUTLAW BAITING. <u></u>

[MULESKINNER]

SINCE THIS IS A CLOSELY RELATED TOPIC:
Has anyone heard of the results from the National CWD syposium in Colorado Aug 7-8?
L A T E R . . .

[Ky Headhunter]

I'll go with the flow, and say no. No convincing evidence that the change is needed. Would be more of a concern if baiting was as widespread here as in Michigan, etc., with truckloads of corn, apples, & sugarbeets. The few folks I know who bait just use a few mineral blocks or a few gravity feeders with corn.

Glad it's illegal for turkey, though, and on public grounds. Don't need folks claiming rights to an area by baiting it.

[taggedout]

Of all the people that Ive known who have taken deer over bait I know of just one nice buck. Im not talkn about food plots, I mean salt licks, cocaine, and throweing down grains and minerals. Seems that the bigger smarter deer hit these baits at night. So I dont see where QDM is being effected here and its good for the game so like you say whats the big deal. They can't seem to respond to the calls they have now, can you Imagine the havock this would bing about for the next couple yrs. Leave it as is.

Grummybear

[INKYHUNTER]

I have never liked baiting and have expressed that opinion in the past. One reason it's not hunting. I don't have a problem with food plots as it is a year around conservation measure to improve wildlife habitat. That being said I could go along with baiting deer if a law was past to outlaw all baiting(other then food plots) from March lst until mid May. This would make the baiter the law breaker rather then the spring turkey hunter who doesn't know his neighbor is baiting within a half mile of his property. The law as it stands now is unfair to the turkey hunter and neighboring property. The way the law is now you could have a anti-hunter baiting on his property and making it illegal for his neighbors to hunt spring turkey.

[Multidigits]

INKYHUNTER--That part of the law would not change. You still would not be able to hunt in an area of inluence by the bait, legal or illegeal.

[MrBowhunter]

No on the ban, leave it the way it is. I have corn and oats out all year round. I still se very few deer even though there is a constant supply of fooe for them. I would hate to see what they would do if they didn't come in for supper. Probably see less now wouldn't I?