View Full Version : NEED HELP!! Wanting to bulid Powerlines on my property
jsmdpm
11-14-2007, 09:35 AM
I could really use some help. Just got contacted by Eastern Kentucky Power COOP about expanding easement/building additional powerlines across my property(300 acres) in madison county. I should tell you there are powerlines that run across a small portion of a corner of my property. I have no idea what form of compensation/arrangements that need to be made but there is no doubt this will change the value/environment of "my hunting farm." I would appreciate any advice/information/experiences anyone has had w/ this process. I'm supposed to meet w/ them next week. Thank you in advance.
scott
Louhunter
11-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Some of the best deer hunting I have ever had was hunting power lines. But it would depend on where on your farm they would be located. Not sure of the amount, but they pay my uncle for trespass rights each year.
aferguson27
11-14-2007, 11:49 AM
I would get what I could out of them cause if you refuse to let them on your land they can and will condemn it by law if the plans show they can’t go any other way with the powerlines.
blackangus
11-14-2007, 12:32 PM
If the compensation is fair and it doesn't affect your farm it probably is not that bad of deal. As someone else said deer love powerlines to use for traveling.
str8 shot
11-14-2007, 01:41 PM
powerlines are awesome for hunting...one of our best on our 300 acres in frankfort...already got a big 10 off of it
Duster
11-14-2007, 01:59 PM
I would make sure the deal included making the ground under the proposed power line suitable for planting and not a stump field. Several of the larger powerlines in this area (TVA lines) have some nice food plots in them. A few have large box blinds built on the edge, just not directly under the lines.
Most likely what they will want is to purchase a easement thru your farm, not purchase the property.
Strutter
11-14-2007, 02:04 PM
"they pay my uncle for trespass rights each year."
Just curious about this statement. I have electric lines and a 30" main gas line going across my property that was there before I bought it and was wondering if they pay each year as well or is it a one time payment to the owner at time it was built. This year the gas line wasn't mowed as it has been each year since I've owned it. All the surrounding farms have been mowed but they left mine. Wonder what the deal is with that?
Not trying to hijack your thread but as to your question, I would do some serious research and try and get a deal I could live with if at all possible. Try and have it where you wouldn't want to build a house in the future if possible as well.
Rob
Duster
11-14-2007, 02:11 PM
"they pay my uncle for trespass rights each year."
Just curious about this statement. I have electric lines and a 30" main gas line going across my property that was there before I bought it and was wondering if they pay each year as well or is it a one time payment to the owner at time it was built. This year the gas line wasn't mowed as it has been each year since I've owned it. All the surrounding farms have been mowed but they left mine. Wonder what the deal is with that?
Not trying to hijack your thread but as to your question, I would do some serious research and try and get a deal I could live with if at all possible. Try and have it where you wouldn't want to build a house in the future if possible as well.
Rob
It depends on the type deal that was cut when the easement was granted. Most here are a one time deal with whoever owns the property at that time and then runs with the land forever in the deed. I almost bought some property that has a fiber optic phone cable burried darn near dead center where anyone who was interested in building on it would most likely want to build a home. There was no income from the phone company to the now owner it had been paid years ago to another owner.
Louhunter
11-14-2007, 11:42 PM
As I said, The Power Company pays him a "trepass" fee each year. But he has owned the farm for 40 + years and he negoated the terms.
ekydeerhunter
11-15-2007, 12:32 PM
Killed my six point this year in a power line cut out. Only deer I have seen this year while hunting.
jsmdpm
11-17-2007, 06:38 PM
my main point is how much negotiating power due I have? Can they force me legally to allow them to do this? I understand deer/power line but thi will lessen the value of my property(aesthetics/no build zones/etc.) Any other advice?
Duster
11-17-2007, 07:30 PM
my main point is how much negotiating power due I have? Can they force me legally to allow them to do this? I understand deer/power line but thi will lessen the value of my property(aesthetics/no build zones/etc.) Any other advice?
As far as aesthetics it depends on who would want the property if and when it goes up for sale and the reason for buying it. Lets say if a houseing developer wants the land then yes the no build zone around a power line would bring the price down, on the other hand if say a deer hunter wanted to buy the land then the clear cut with the addition of food plots may drive the price higher.
Negotiations you most likely don't have a lot of wiggle room if the power company wants to run the line they going to run the line. If you give them a real hard time and it ends up in court they will just condem the property and pay the lowest price possable. A easement across a section of property may be worth thousands of dollars to you but may only be worth hundreds to them. You will not know till the first offer hits the table.
Dangermouse
11-18-2007, 10:27 PM
Hi I work for a utility, phone company. As already said how much would be the compensation ? Many times we have alternate routes, the power company maybe alittle different, I doubt they would really be thinking about comdemming any property.
If the compensation is not that much or the route does not affect your property much you may want to give your permission without signing agreement. First question, will be why ? Reason is with a agreement, you could be held liable, for any damages to facilites on your property. Although it does not happen alot but it can. Second , its hard to comdem property in court when the owner gives permission but doesnt want a signed agreement. A unsigned agreement just cost us 250,000.00, good for the owner bad for us.
We usually deal with power companies alot, my brother is a Central Office Tech for Windstream in Berea, he may have some information about that Power Comp. I can PM you his phone number if your interested.
Dangermouse
11-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Talked to my brother over the holiday about your situation. He said he knows the engineer for the power company there , and said he would get you the inside scoop if you interested.
ben hunting
11-30-2007, 03:45 PM
in 1990 or 91, in madison county a friend of mine got ten grand per tower that they put on his farm. out by white oak pond. he got a lawyer and fought them. his nieghbors got maybe 500- 1500. per tower without a lawyer. building lots have really gone up since then, i would research it.
lnicholson
12-01-2007, 08:31 AM
Find out what kind of lines are going in, how many and for what purpose. The greater the purpose the more money you should negotiate. also these power companies are slipping in telecom line in also with the new systems that are out there.... if those are going in, once again the cost should go up.
Do your research and charge accordingly.
Highbow
12-01-2007, 04:34 PM
EAST KY POWER is a transmission electric power company, this will be a high voltage line and they do purchase ROW for construction and are willing to clear it as the owner ask, but get it all in writing. They are usually a good company to deal with, I work for a power co-op and EKP supplies our sub-stations.
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