How would you aim

[LittleJohn]

While in tree stand and the only shot you have on a deer that is beneath the stand. How would you aim to take the shot. My bow has 5 pin set up with the first at 20 yds. What pin would I use on deer.

[skin_dog1]

I wouldn't. A straight down shot is a very risky shot. You might get lucky and hit the heart but odds are you'll hit one lung and deer can survive a 1 lung hit. Let him walk out from the tree. 9 times out of 10 he'll give you a broadside or quartering away shot.

[ScentFree]

If you are saying that I have to take the shot in this example, I would aim 3 to five inches toward the rear of the deer in the middle of his shoulder blades with my 20 yard pin. SPINE hit. I would aim a little back because you are probably going to shoot a little high with the 20 yard pin at that range. Assuming your bow is parallel with the body of the deer. Not a high percentage shot.

[kidd rock]

I agree with Skin dog, let him walk out a little and take a broadside or quartering away, not only will it be an easier shot, but it will also be a quicker kill.

[raktrakr]

Pass on straight down shots! Even if you do make a good hit chances are the exit wound will clot up quickly and you'll lose the blood trail, and thats IF you have a pass through. If you dont have a pass through and you dont hit the spine,you'll have a deer running off with a arrow sticking out of it and no blood trail

[WBBP]

Be a killer when you have the chance, not a thinker/waiter.

Take your shortest yardage pin and shoot the deer between the shoulder blades. He won't go very far and you will probably get to watch him die right there.

K

[Joe Bryan]

Be a killer when you have the chance, not a thinker/waiter.

Take your shortest yardage pin and shoot the deer between the shoulder blades. He won't go very far and you will probably get to watch him die right there.

K
I agree, one year I shot a medium size doe from straight down angle between the shoulder blades. I think she ran about 50 yards, but the blood trail was like paint out of a bucket!

[longtimegone]

I would prefer to use one of the old fashioned pens because they are really pointy, but at that range a Bic roller ball to the jugular should do the trick...However, both are smaller than 7/8 wide and therefore are not legal in our fair Commonwealth.

[skin_dog1]

Be a killer when you have the chance, not a thinker/waiter.

Take your shortest yardage pin and shoot the deer between the shoulder blades. He won't go very far and you will probably get to watch him die right there.

K 1" one way or the other and you have a one lung hit and possibly no exit hole and an entry on top of the back so no blood trail. I'm not saying I would 100% never take the shot, but I'm going to do everything in my power not to take this shot. If mr. new world record steps out and I know he'll not give ma anything but thios shot then who knows what I'll do, but this is not the kindof shot I would ever tell someone to take. I recently got in a heated discussion about frontal shots and my response was the same.

[NonTyp]

1" one way or the other and you have a one lung hit and possibly no exit hole and an entry on top of the back so no blood trail. I'm not saying I would 100% never take the shot, but I'm going to do everything in my power not to take this shot. If mr. new world record steps out and I know he'll not give ma anything but thios shot then who knows what I'll do, but this is not the kindof shot I would ever tell someone to take. I recently got in a heated discussion about frontal shots and my response was the same.

Hey Dog, I've seen some frontal shots that were not too bad!:eek:

[OUTBACK]

I think that any shot is makable if you know where to place your arrow or bullet. . . . you just have to practice and know where the most lethal section of the deer is that you need to hit. . . .

[raktrakr]

True but how many have ever practiced a straight down shot

[islandspeck]

True but how many have ever practiced a straight down shot

This is true. I don't take the shot if I don't think I can make the shot 10 out of 10 times. That is one of the poorest angles to take with a bow in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, the shot can be very deadly, and go perfectly, but I'm just not sure the odds are in favor on that angle. I wait on a better angle and if it doesn't present, then o'well, just wasn't supposed to happen for me that day. I rather pass then risk feeding one to the coyotes, they are bad enough as it is.

[OUTBACK]

True but how many have ever practiced a straight down shot

I do . . . .I practice from every angle and shot position imaginable so when crunch time comes I can seal the deal.

[KY OUTLAW]

in my opinion this is a shot that no one should take ( to much room for a bad hit ) we as hunters owe is the the deer out of respect to make a good clean kill every time no matter if its a doe or MR world record

[JDMiller]

Not saying it would'nt work but I would rather be patient and let him get further out and hope for a better shot angle.

A good friend of mine took a straight down shot from a very high placed stand...25 ft plus on a really nice buck at LBL a few years ago. He's killed a few P&Y class deer and if he tells you its a hoss... it is without a doubt.

After the shot... he honestly thought all was well... waited and started tracking. About noon he gave me a call to help... good blood with bubbles at first then went to just a few drops here & there. We looked for several hours and decided not to push but wait till the next morning. We looked the next day & the day after that. Found one bed with a little blood but was high on a ridge and a long..long way from the place he was shot. We never found the deer.

He may have survived ... he may not. The only thing I could perceive...it had to clip only one lung. In my opinion... I would rather be patient for a better angle if you want to improve the odds of wrapping your hands around those horns.

[keith meador]

try this simple test...shoot your bow from say 7 yards. use your longest pin and aim in the middle of a spot.......post up your results with which sight pin you needed to use to hit the spot.

[letmfly]

try this simple test...shoot your bow from say 7 yards. use your longest pin and aim in the middle of a spot.......post up your results with which sight pin you needed to use to hit the spot.

Keith, all my sight pins are the same length. Do you have sight pins for aiming right and left?

[quackrstackr]

Keith, all my sight pins are the same length. Do you have sight pins for aiming right and left?

Vertical pins....... ;)

[keith meador]

Keith, all my sight pins are the same length. Do you have sight pins for aiming right and left?

longest yardage.....:D

[letmfly]

Yes Keith I know. I saw them demo this on double bull archery for shooting turkeys at mere feet. Shooting quarter size dots at 10 feet is good practice. Might even help for frog season.

[keith meador]

shooting at quarter sized dot is good practice, but which sight pin do you use to hit that spot from 7 yards?

[NonTyp]

Vertical pins....... ;)


Wouldn't the longest pin be your shortest yardage?:cool::D

[quackrstackr]

Wouldn't the longest pin be your shortest yardage?:cool::D

Just depends on whether your pins are attached at the top or the bottom. I've seen both. :cool::cool::D

[stevemeadows]

I like to think of it as the red zone or the dead zone... you might hit him under your stand in the dead area, but if you let him step out you can have the proper shot in the red zone and recover your harvest alot quicker.

[Pinwheel8]

At 7 yards I have to use my 30 yard pin, under 5 I have to use my 40 or 50.

[notimlmit]

I took down an 11pt shooting straight down but offsetting the spine just enough that it passed clean through and he piled up at 40 yds. Also done a frontal shot on a 10 right between his front legs at the base of his throat and he also piled up at 40 yds, only the fletching was protrueding out his chest. I would rather have a quarting away shot more than any but if you are confident in your shooting then go for it.

[notimlmit]

I took down an 11pt shooting straight down but offsetting the spine just enough that it passed clean through and he piled up at 40 yds. Also done a frontal shot on a 10 right between his front legs at the base of his throat and he also piled up at 40 yds, only the fletching was protrueding out his chest. I would rather have a quarting away shot more than any but if you are confident in your shooting then go for it.
Forgot to mention I was shooting barebow style at the time, I use pins now so I would use my 20 and drop down to allow for the jump just like any other close shot

[keith meador]

At 7 yards I have to use my 30 yard pin, under 5 I have to use my 40 or 50.

anyone else experiment? anyone else have results?

[WhiteRubi]

anyone else experiment? anyone else have results?


Well, I shot my yote last night at about 6 yards out from the base of the tree. I put the 20 on her and hit lower than point of aim. I'm guessing I should have used the 40 yard pin. Either way, she didn't make it 3 yards before kicking the bucket. :D

[j_conrad1982]

I don't mind watching a deer suffer if there was nothing I could do about it. But I fully believe that as serious outdoorsmen and so called "professional bowhunters "it is our duty to supply the deer with the fastest most humane kill we are capable of. And taking a risky shot that has that high of a percentage of a gimp deer or a deer suffering and running off and dieng with no blood trail is a waste and I would be ashamed to put my name on a shot like that. Successful or not. I would rather tell the story of how I passed one right under my stand than telling about a risky shot like that. Sorry it is just a touchy subject for me guys. And someone coming back to camp with a story like that ecspecially a straight on shot would probably be asked to leave.:mad:

[etownhunter]

I wouldn't. A straight down shot is a very risky shot. You might get lucky and hit the heart but odds are you'll hit one lung and deer can survive a 1 lung hit. Let him walk out from the tree. 9 times out of 10 he'll give you a broadside or quartering away shot.


couldnt have said it better!

[str8 shot]

did anyone watch the last episode of realtree roadtrips when michael waddell shot that 8 pointer straight down through the back.The deer didnt go 100 yrds at the most.So yea its a risky shot but itll kill a deer

[WhiteRubi]

I saw it. That was probably the BEST outcome EVER. He was in a very large field where he could watch the deer run off and die. It probably didn't leave much blood. I think that is a big concern with this shot.

Given the opportunity, I'm passing that shot.

[keith meador]

did anyone watch the last episode of realtree roadtrips when michael waddell shot that 8 pointer straight down through the back.The deer didnt go 100 yrds at the most.So yea its a risky shot but itll kill a deer

I saw it. That was probably the BEST outcome EVER. He was in a very large field where he could watch the deer run off and die. It probably didn't leave much blood. I think that is a big concern with this shot.

Given the opportunity, I'm passing that shot.


i also saw that, and noticed quite a bit of his arrow sticking out of the deer as it ran off.....no exit hole in the bottom....

[str8 shot]

Well yea it might not leave quite as big of a blood trail but as long as it kills the deer in a good short time and the hunter is willing to just look for some tracks or is in an open feild to watch the deer die then they could take the shot.Because more times than not you can almost follow a deers tracks in the ground all the way to where he/she is.Id take the shot

[WhiteRubi]

Well yea it might not leave quite as big of a blood trail but as long as it kills the deer in a good short time and the hunter is willing to just look for some tracks or is in an open feild to watch the deer die then they could take the shot.Because more times than not you can almost follow a deers tracks in the ground all the way to where he/she is.Id take the shot

You would be hard pressed to follow foot prints in CRP or a field that has thick undergrowth. In dirt/mud or snow, footprints should be pretty easy to follow. In knee high grass, I'm hoping for buckets of blood. :D

[str8 shot]

Well yea thats why i said if the hunter is willing to look or is in an open feild to watch the deer die or have a good idea of were it goes.Were i hunt there are no tall weeds or open crp so i guess i dont know where your coming from but i see what your saying

[str8 shot]

and whiteruby i noticed you loved in richmond.Were Neighbors bud...lol

[keith meador]

and whiteruby i noticed you loved in richmond.Were Neighbors bud...lol



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[str8 shot]

whys that so funny

[WhiteRubi]

whys that so funny



Yeah, tell us why is that so damn funny, Meador? :D

[keith meador]

i thought st8 shot was letting the cat out of the bag, white rubi is a richmond gigalo....

[rick243]

and whiteruby i noticed you loved in richmond.Were Neighbors bud...lol

I love in Corbin. Wheres everyone else love?:)

[quackrstackr]

Well...

I've never actually kept up with all of them but.........



:D

[str8 shot]

hahaha lmao:D

[turk2di]

Kalen, gotta go with Dave here, sorry pal;)