ccw ???

[rock802]

I think this was asked here befor but i can't find it, if you have a ccw permit can you carry one while hunting? mainly early bow season for me, here in e ky you never know what patch or meth cooking you will run in to.:mad:

[quackrstackr]

Legally, no.

[BunnyBuster]

Legally, no.


Yeah, what he said. LEAGALLY, no.

[weedwalker]

Not just no but, NOOOOO !!!!

[AMR40509]

I'm not suggesting that anyone break the law, but in theory....

I guess that my thinking is that if you are going to talk about a CCDWP....the first C stands for Concealed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in KY you don't have to legally tell a LEO if you are carrying do you?

I don't bow hunt, so this doesn't apply to me, but when I carry concealed it's either IWB or ankle...so in a normal check I don't think it would be a (known) issue. When I carry (which admittedly isn't often) I dress around the gun, so that NO one should be able to know I have it on me -- in the woods or at Wal-Mart.

Furthermore, I would think that my sub-compact 9mm or my 38 snub would make more sense to have on me as a CCDW piece then my 6" 357 or 6.5" 44mag.

I figure that my sub compact 9mm and a couple of spare mags would give me 31rounds of +p+ 115grn JHP....which is a poor choice for deer, but not too shabby in the super slim chance of having an issue with "patch or meth cooking you will run in to"

When hiking I do often open carry, but this would obviously be a bad idea when bow hunting during a non-firearms season.

This often comes up when talking about folks boating on Corps of Engineers Lakes too. It is illegal to have a firearm on these lakes. However lots of folks that camp out in remote areas of the lakes at night or stay on their houseboats/cruisers for long periods of time do want something for defense out there. I can certainly understand why someone might stick a stainless 38 snub in a place on the boat that is only accessible to the 'captain' and isn't easy to find.

[quackrstackr]

the first C stands for Concealed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in KY you don't have to legally tell a LEO if you are carrying do you?


One of the first things that they taught us in class was that if you had to deal with an LEO for some reason, it would be in your best interest to tell them if you were packing even though legal. They have no idea that you have a permit and it could make for a real bad day should they somehow get a glance at a previously unmentioned concealed firearm.

[ksp771]

This is correct! it is a good idea regardless of what your reason is to let any LEO know that you have a weapon on or about your person. As an LEO I can tell you that if you have a weapon concealed and you even get close to it with me around it would be a bad day for YOU at the office. Even if you get your CCDW please let us know.
One of the first things that they taught us in class was that if you had to deal with an LEO for some reason, it would be in your best interest to tell them if you were packing even though legal. They have no idea that you have a permit and it could make for a real bad day should they somehow get a glance at a previously unmentioned concealed firearm.

[droopy]

i know it's illegal but i'll probably pack anyway.just like this morning took my 9 yr old son hunting and walked up on a meth lab on nat'l forrest land,kind of scary knowing all i had was a 410 he was using and a pocket knife.lucky no one was around or didnt show up.i'm just not going to take the chance with the idiots out there these days.

[KYBOY]

Does this particular ccw restriction still pertain to LEO's??(Like a retired or an off duty LEO bowhunting etc) No ones ever really pegged that down for me and Ive asked a lot of people.

[BadDuck]

This often comes up when talking about folks boating on Corps of Engineers Lakes too. It is illegal to have a firearm on these lakes.

Correct me if I am reading this wrong, but a law such as this would make corp lakes off limits to Duck hunting. And that just isnt the case.

[quackrstackr]

Correct me if I am reading this wrong, but a law such as this would make corp lakes off limits to Duck hunting. And that just isnt the case.

I think there is an exemption for "legal hunting seasons" just like there is on LBL.

[rangerman2003]

im reading through the manual and i see nothing of carrying to firearms during firearms season, just a limit of no more than 11 rounds... so why could i not carry two if wanted??? can someone please point this out to me as im really wanting to see if i can take both my rifle for longer shots then a 357 or 44 revolver for up close shots as i want to take a deer with a pistol

[quackrstackr]

You can take 15 guns with you if you like so long as none of them hold more than 11 rounds apiece.

[RVtech24]

I have a CCW permit issued to me by the state for my protection.

In the woods or the water, state park or national park does not matter to me, it is better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

And yes I bow hunt...

[CSS archer]

im reading through the manual and i see nothing of carrying to firearms during firearms season, just a limit of no more than 11 rounds... so why could i not carry two if wanted??? can someone please point this out to me as im really wanting to see if i can take both my rifle for longer shots then a 357 or 44 revolver for up close shots as i want to take a deer with a pistol

During modern rifle season you can carry a pistol while deer hunting. It's Archery or Muzzleloader season that will get you in trouble carrying.

[quackrstackr]

I have a CCW permit issued to me by the state for my protection.

In the woods or the water, state park or national park does not matter to me, it is better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

And yes I bow hunt...

Show the feds your state permit while packing on federal land and see if they cut you any slack.

Do what you want but being flagrant about it is probably not the best course of action if you are willingly going to do something illegal.

[Snareman2]

I have a CCW permit issued to me by the state for my protection.

In the woods or the water, state park or national park does not matter to me, it is better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

And yes I bow hunt...

Packing a firearm, be it with a CCW permit is your right. However, hunting is a privelege(that's how you could lose your hunting privilege for a wildlife violation). If you choose to exercise your hunting privilege, then you have to play by the hunting rules, and the rules are that during archery only season, that means leaving any firearm you have at home.

[RVtech24]

Packing a firearm, be it with a CCW permit is your right. However, hunting is a privelege(that's how you could lose your hunting privilege for a wildlife violation). If you choose to exercise your hunting privilege, then you have to play by the hunting rules, and the rules are that during archery only season, that means leaving any firearm you have at home.

I would rather explain my violation of the hunting laws to the Judge than my wife explain my death to my family.

[Snareman2]

I would rather explain my violation of the hunting laws to the Judge than my wife explain my death to my family.

Friday nights, watch "Human Weapon". Its an hour long show each week, going through the different fighting styles of the world (Karate, judo, jujizu, and other names I can't spell or pronounce). Practice, Grasshopper and you will be a weapon yourself! LOL

[weedwalker]

This often comes up when talking about folks boating on Corps of Engineers Lakes too. It is illegal to have a firearm on these lakes.

TITLE 36--PARKS, FORESTS, AND PUBLIC PROPERTY

CHAPTER III--CORPS OF ENGINEERS,
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY

PART 327--RULES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING PUBLIC USE OF WATER RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ADMINISTERED BY THE CHIEF OF ENGINEERS--Table of Contents

Sec. 327.13 Explosives, firearms, other weapons and fireworks.

(a) The possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile
firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other weapons is
prohibited unless:
(1) In the possession of a Federal, state or local law enforcement
officer;
(2) Being used for hunting or fishing as permitted under Sec. 327.8,
with devices being unloaded when transported to, from or between hunting
and fishing sites;
(3) Being used at authorized shooting ranges; or
(4) Written permission has been received from the District
Commander.
(b) Possession of explosives or explosive devices of any kind,
including fireworks or other pyrotechnics, is prohibited unless written
permission has been received from the District Commander.

[65 FR 6901, Feb. 11, 2000]

[jnkself]

I carry a Springfield Armory XD-40....always. I would DEFINATELY let a LEO know I was carring if stopped but I cary diferently in the woods than in town. I carry in town so that if confronted I can get to it fast and natural...in the woods I carry it so that if I am beating feet or up a tree and have a few seconds I can fish it out but not readily available as if I were poaching. A fanny pack or a sholder under my hunting clothes seems to work. Just like everone else this is just the way I do it.;)

[Swampthing]

Nobody is going to tell me I can or cannot carry a weapon anytime of anytype on my own land!

[chadwimc]

You briars need to work on your elected officials. In Ohio, we just achieved the right to concealed carry while hunting, any season. Of course, we had to get rid of Mr. Republican's grandson and his wife before we could(Taft). Sometimes, term limits work in evrybody's favor...:rolleyes:

[roleksy]

You briars need to work on your elected officials. In Ohio, we just achieved the right to concealed carry while hunting, any season. Of course, we had to get rid of Mr. Republican's grandson and his wife before we could(Taft). Sometimes, term limits work in evrybody's favor...:rolleyes:
Indiana too, as of 2006.

[rock802]

I did'nt mean to cause a big debate, but thanks for the info. I will prob carry conceald depending on the location that I'am hunting

[Sand Gap Sniper]

I know (and am admitting) that this may be a dumb question, but is it legal to carry a pistol with snake shot in it? There's no chance of being able to kill deer with it, does that matter? The area that I bow hunt is loaded with copperheads.:eek:

[PREACHEROFOZ]

Does this particular ccw restriction still pertain to LEO's??(Like a retired or an off duty LEO bowhunting etc) No ones ever really pegged that down for me and Ive asked a lot of people.

Like they say, if you wanna know go to the source. Most LEO's are required to carry 24/7 by their agencies, this includes in the woods during bow season. Most retired LEO's recieve ccdw permits on retirement. A retired officer would not be permitted as they are now among the masses, but an off-duty unit would. Just be sure to make it clear who you are if stopped and carry that ID. Anytime you are stopped or questioned by any officer you should inform them that you are carrying, it shows you aren't hiding it from them. Happy Hunting

[KYBOY]

Thats what Im thinking. I am a retired LEO and have a "retired" ID to carry concealed but I dont think it extendeds to the same degree it use to.

[killinmammals]

Im packing when I am on private land because there have been some BIG meth labs found on my buddies land. The old co told my buddies bro-inlaw to protect himself how needed...and I'll take that to myself too because the lowlives have chased a guy that used to hunt the land before they got caught!

[PREACHEROFOZ]

NOT A DUMB QUESTION. I GET IT ALL THE TIME. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT KIND OF SHOT YOU CARRY. THE LAW IS AGAINST THE FIREARM, IT COULD BE EMPTY. FOR THE RECORD I AM NOT RESPONDING TO PEOPLES PERSONAL CHOICES, ONLY EXPLAINING THE REGULATIONS.

I know (and am admitting) that this may be a dumb question, but is it legal to carry a pistol with snake shot in it? There's no chance of being able to kill deer with it, does that matter? The area that I bow hunt is loaded with copperheads.:eek:

[Snareman2]

That is right, you have the right to carry a firearm.

However, hunting is a priviledge, not a right, that's why you have to purchase a license. If you are going to hunt, you have to play by the rules. You can't just pick which ones you choose to follow. If you break the rules, you could lose your priviledge to hunt for afew years.

If you don't agree with the hunting reg, then don't hunt. During archery season, firearms are prohibited. There is nothing in the Constitution that says you have the right to hunt, it just says you have the right to bear arms. So, to keep the hunting priviledge, you have to do it right.

[RVtech24]

While hunting on my own property...I follow my rules.

I went bow hunting this weekend and yes I carried my Ruger P-90 thank you...

Like I said, It is my land...

I will never take a deer with a firearm during a non firearm season...

I believe that Kentucky will change this law as other states around us have.

You all have a safe hunt.

[SmokeyBear]

Well I have been in law enforcement for 14 years now and I'll just say this....Even if I were not a police officer and required to carry my weapon on and off duty I would still carry one. I would get my ccw permit and yes, I would still carry one while bow hunting. Now I'm not telling anyone to break the law here, but over the last 14 years of my career I have seen and ran into some pretty rough situations and I am a firm believer that everyone has a right to have the ability to protect themselves, their families and their property. Like Snareman2 said, carrying a firearm while bowhunting in KY is ILLEGAL and you could get into some trouble if caught doing so, so I am by no means telling anyone to break the law. I am just saying what I would do if I were in that situation and I myself would not feel any guilt for doing so because I know in my heart that I have no intention of using the firearm to poach an animal and that it is with me for protection only. Again I am not advocating carrying a firearm while bowhunting because it is not legal to do so, I am just agreeing that I see why people see the need to. The problem is if KY allows it, then there are always people that are going to abuse that privilege and use the handgun to poach an animal. But the way I look at that situation is those people that would use the gun to poach are probably already doing so anyway. By having it illegal to carry we are just punishing the law abiding folks that want to carry for protection. Oh well, that's enough hot air from me I guess. :D;)

[Strutter]

You have to ask yourself, what would the media have a better time with.

Man gets attacked on his own land and shoots a crackhead with handgun while bowhunting even though he wasn't supposed to be carrying the handgun due to wildlife laws.

Or.

Man gets attacked on his own land by a crackhead while bowhunting and shoots attacker through the head with a 3 blade broadhead and 550 grain arrow. Man states he wants his arrow back after they get it removed so he can resharpen it and use it again. Man also states he is a little upset cause he didn't get a complete passthru and says something about tuning and adding more weight to his arrows as interview ends.

How many of you break the speed limit when going to your hunting area. Is that more or less of a crime than carrying a weapon while bowhunting. As some people say, the laws the law. Can a person really differentiate between them or should all be obeyed to the letter.

[Art]

I carry sometimes during bow season. I know it's illegal and I accept the penalties if I were to be caught. That said, I have run into many idiots in the woods over the years, pot patches, rabid dogs, ect. I have NEVER been checked by a CO in my 22+ years of hunting. Do the math.