Summer Coyote Calling Sequence

[Sand Gap Sniper]

The coyotes are about to pack my parents off. They have been howling at night right under their bedroom window, and they have been getting on their neighbor's porch. They have been howling close to their house about every night. I do a lot of calling in cool weather, but I haven't hunted them much in the summer.

I was thinking about going over there Friday and trying to call one in. What's the best calling sequence to use this time of year? I was thinking maybe some pup distress or pup howls might be good to start with since thier pups are a few months old now, and then maybe going to some challenge barks. Any suggestions?

[hunterman1971]

deer Fawn works good or pup in distess

[weedwalker]

Pup distress and pup howls, like you said, and fawn like hunterman said, and some rabbit distress. I wouldn't do much challenging right now, I think it would just scare the younger ones away.
I'd be glad to come help you out with your problem. :D

[weedwalker]

Have you looked around for any dens? A few pups out with mom at night learning to hunt can make a lot of racket.

[weedwalker]

It's gonna be HOT Friday. Early AM or evening just B-4 dark probably best. I'd set up around some water somewhere. They'll get a drink B-4 they lay down, and again when they get up.They're saying maybe thunderstorms on Fri. If it does, that will help. I've seen coyotes out in the middle of the day here twice in the last week. Both times it was when a storm was coming thru. There's a big jet black coyote running around here just begging me to shot him.:D

[Sand Gap Sniper]

Have you looked around for any dens? A few pups out with mom at night learning to hunt can make a lot of racket.

I haven't looked for any dens. Their neighbor pores scraps out behind their house and the coyotes eat them. I'm pretty sure that's what keeps them hanging around there.

My dad said it sounded like a dozen, I told him it was probably 2 or 3. I know that 2 or 3 can sould like a herd.

[Sand Gap Sniper]

It's gonna be HOT Friday. Early AM or evening just B-4 dark probably best. I'd set up around some water somewhere. They'll get a drink B-4 they lay down, and again when they get up.They're saying maybe thunderstorms on Fri. If it does, that will help. I've seen coyotes out in the middle of the day here twice in the last week. Both times it was when a storm was coming thru. There's a big jet black coyote running around here just begging me to shot him.:D


Yeah, they are hearing them just before dark, no more than an hour before dark. My Mom said that she had heard them one morning just after daylight. It sounds like we need to get together and do some coyote hunting pretty soon.

[etownhunter]

Last week i saw a huge male blonde, had the best summer coat i have seen at 10:30am! If i only had my AR!!!!

[weedwalker]

Tried to see if I could call that black one in for about an hour this morning. Didn't see anything. Should have used the bug spray. Them skeeters were hungry.

[Sand Gap Sniper]

Well Weedwalker, it turned out that I didn't have to meet with that guy last night, so I went ahead and made a set up below my parents house. I set up in the edge of the woods next a big field. I started with a pup distress tape about 8:30, didn't see anything, so I did a few pup howls with a mouth call, didn't see anthing, so I waited a few minutes and put a coyote serenade tape in. Right in the middle of the serenade, a coyote started challenge barking at me from about 75 yards away, he was over the hill in the hollow below me. I thought to myself, this one is going to come up in the woods behind me, so I jumped up, pulled the bipod off my rifle and got ready, he started coming up the hill, sure enough, in the woods. He was still challenge barking, he got so close that I could hear his feet in the leaves, I know he was less than 20 yards, but the undergrowth was so thick that I never could see him. He must have got my scent at about 20 yards, he never made another sound. I never heard him walk again or anything. He outdone me this time :mad:, maybe next time I'll get the upper hand.

There is one coyote that my dad says sounds alot like a dog howling, says he sounds different than all the rest. I wonder what the chances are of a coydog being the leader of a pack. My dad was with me last night, and he said the one that was challenge barking sounded like the oddball the he usually hears.

[weedwalker]

Sand Gap Sniper, WTG, At least you got some action out of him. It's still exciting to call one in even if you don't get a shot. I haven't used the serinade in a long time. Maybe I need to load it back into my MP3 caller. Did you stop calling when he was coming in, or leave it playing? Is there any way you could have setup to where your scent would be going into an open area? You know he's there know so maybe in a few days you'll be able to finish him.
I'd say a coydog could be the leader, as long as he can whip the rest of them.

[Sand Gap Sniper]

Sand Gap Sniper, WTG, At least you got some action out of him. It's still exciting to call one in even if you don't get a shot. I haven't used the serinade in a long time. Maybe I need to load it back into my MP3 caller. Did you stop calling when he was coming in, or leave it playing? Is there any way you could have setup to where your scent would be going into an open area? You know he's there know so maybe in a few days you'll be able to finish him.
I'd say a coydog could be the leader, as long as he can whip the rest of them.


It was exiting, he had my heart a thumping. I've had a lot of luck with the seranade. In the exitement, I stopped the caller, when he started challenge barking me, I challenge barked back at him a couple times, that's when he started to me. There was no wind stirring when I was there, at least not enough that you could feel it, I didn't know where my scent would go, so I just picked the spot on how well I could see. I bet that if I had gotten up where my dad was sitting, he would have came out into the open. He may be too smart to fall for the same calling sequence the next time, I think if I go back, I'll try appeal to his belly, yummmm, rabbit... BOOM!!!:D At least I hope so anyways, what do you think?

[weedwalker]

Yeah, I'd give him a few days to get it off his mind. Then change up a little on the calls. It's hard to say. I have hunted the same stand twice in one day and killed coyotes the second time. The main thing I figured out about coyotes is, they're hard to figure out.:D

[carpenterguy]

Yeah, I'd give him a few days to get it off his mind. Then change up a little on the calls. It's hard to say. I have hunted the same stand twice in one day and killed coyotes the second time. The main thing I figured out about coyotes is, they're hard to figure out.:D

Boy you got that right. They're just so darn smart that seems they know what we're doing.:D

[weedwalker]

Sand Gap Sniper,
Have they heard the coyotes over there since you got busted?

[Sand Gap Sniper]

I don't know if they have or not, I forgot to ask. It had been 3 nights since they had heard them when I got busted. My dad has told me about 3 times that if I had been sitting where he was, I would have gotten the coyote. I think he's enjoying that "I told you so" thing. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 I guess. :rolleyes:

[bobo]

This Sandgap Sniper sounds like he has a lot of free time on his hands! :D

[Sand Gap Sniper]

This Sandgap Sniper sounds like he has a lot of free time on his hands! :D

I was wondering when you would weigh in on this Bobo. If free time was something that I had an abundance of, there would probably be a lot more "coyote that got away" stories on here from me. :rolleyes:

[Sand Gap Sniper]

Well, I went back and tried them again last night. I set up in a better place, and did a completely different calling sequence. I started out with rabbit distress, then I done a couple of welcome howls, and then I popped in a "coyote locator" tape in which is just a big group howl from a bunch of coyotes. I stopped the group howl in the middle, and just a soon as I stopped it, the hollow in front of me came alive with coyotes. There was at least 5 howling back at me, maybe 6. I know 2 or 3 can sound like a bunch, but these were in different spots, so I know there was at least 5. I let them finish their howling, reached down to start the tape caller back up again, and the blankedy blank thing wouldn't do anything, never would come back on. So, I improvised, I done a couple more howls and some yips with my mouth calls, but the coyotes never would come out in the field where I could see them. Out done again. I'll say this for coyote hunting, you will have more "almost got one" stories than any other kind of hunting.

[weedwalker]

SGS, It sure sounds like you're on the right track anyway. You have 'em talking to ya. Sooner or later you'll be getting a shot. Just keep changing up your calls a little and the spots you call from so they don't get used to hearing calls from the same spot. Are you using any kind of decoy for them to home in on?

[Sand Gap Sniper]

I told my dad last night that we would end up getting one, to which he disagreed as usual. I'll give them another break and try them again, with something different like you said. I don't have a decoy, I have a buddy that has one, I need to invite him and his decoy the next time. :D

[weedwalker]

I've got one of those vibrating rabbit looking things on a stick. Or a turkey feather on a string will work.

[weedwalker]

Was going thru my MP3 sounds on my call. I have the serenade, but I found a pack howling I like better.

[DOGY]

What part of Laurel Co. are you seeing the black yote?:confused:

[Sand Gap Sniper]

You know, I was just thinking about all the coyotes that I have called in. I have yet to have one come in while I was using a "rabbit in distress" call, or any other distress call. Maybe the coyotes in this area are just really well fed and ain't hungry enough to bother. Or, maybe they are starting in while I am using it, but if that's the case, they should have plenty of time to come in since I always give 5 or 10 minutes between calling sequences. The best luck, well, actually the only luck I guess, that I have had has been while using coyote sounds. It seems to me like that the coyotes around here are way more interested in guarding their territory than filling their belly. Comments?

[weedwalker]

Interesting theory there SGS, You could be right. Sometimes it takes a lot longer for them to come in thru thick cover, and maybe they just ain't hungry. That could be "their holler" and don't want any competition. Sounds like it's working anyway.:D

And Dogy,
I'll just say East Laurel. I don't want to pinpoint him, I'd kinda like to get him myself.:D

[Sand Gap Sniper]

Hey Weedwalker (and everybody else), is there a certain call that you have noticed that you are usually using when the coyote responds? It seems like the best sequence for me has been starting with some type of distress (like the previously mentioned bunny rabbit), then doing a couple of howls, then going on to a coyote serenade or group howl. It seems like they always respond or show up during the serenade. A lot of times they will just howl back, and then you can provoke them on in with some challenge barks, but it seems like it's always the serenade that does the trick.

[weedwalker]

The last few that I've had come in, came immediately after I started calling. I usually start with a couple young howls, wait a minute or two, then start with my Haydels Babby Rabbit. So they could be coming to the young howl or the distress. Not sure.

[Jimmie in Ky]

Rabbit in distress for the majority of my calling and whipped pup for the rest.They respond to all sounds in my opinion, just not always as we would like. This sport is growing by leaps and bounds. We are no longer alone out there calling coyotes. I use all mouth calls .

Coarse cottontail does seem to work very well.. It's diferent from what most of you will get in the stores, and I haven't heard it from an e-caller yet either. The sound is very raspy and lower pitched than most factory calls. My calling style is also diferent from most people. I get fairly aggressive with a call. I keep my sequences forty seconds to 2 minutes apart. I do not call with a consistant pattern!

Weed walkers Haydels baby rabbit is a sound not heard a lot in the winter. Not many callers are using it. It's a high pitched sound very diferent from the single reed calls that are most available here in the stores.

Setup is the key to calling coyotes though, in my opinion. You have to control the aproach if you can. I called in the same male twice in the same day last year for a pair of newbies by switching sounds and setups. They still didn't get him but that is coyote hunting. First time with bird distress and the second time with a combination of rabbit and whipped pup.

BTW Weedwalker, you sound just like Keekee. I swear one of these days he's going to bust a gut calling like he does ;-) Jimmie

[weedwalker]

BTW Weedwalker, you sound just like Keekee. I swear one of these days he's going to bust a gut calling like he does ;-) Jimmie

:D Thanks Jimmie. I'll take that as a compliment.:D I think.:confused: And then it just could be that I've got a lot of gut to bust.:D

On my Haydel call, I usually use the deeper pitch jackrabbit end of it too.

[whitetail-hunter11]

i have also been haven problems with coyotes around my house and neighborhood. i have alittle dog that stays outside and everyother night he and my neighbors dog will bark all night, when they do that most of the time you can look out my backdoor and see them. me and dad have killed two or three in our yard and my neighbor has shot at that many or more. i belive that they a den close by we have looked around for one but we havent had any luck. my dad has been thinking about getting a trap and soaking some meat in antifreeze to put in it. i dont know how well that will work. i heard those calls worked really good. which kind is best the mouth calls or the audio calls ? where could i purchase one at ?

[weedwalker]

Keep an eye on your small dog outside. Coyotes love to eat small dogs.
I wouldn't put the antifreeze out. Your dog, or a neighbors dog might get into it. If you look out and see them, just shoot 'em.

[Sand Gap Sniper]

I agree with weedwalker, I wouldn't put out any antifreeze. If you go out just before dark each night, you can probably hear them howling. I would bet that they are denning close to the first place you hear them howl each night.

If I were you, I would probably buy the electronic caller first, that way when you do buy the mouth calls, you have something to practice to. You also might want to take someone who has called in a few before trying it on your own. As far as which kind of caller to buy, if you can afford it, get a digital with a remote, something like the Foxpro. If you can't, you can get a tape caller like I have, I've got a Johnny Stewart, works great. Mouth calls, get somekind of open reed call, I've heard that the Primos coyote calls are pretty good. I have a "Song Dog" from Crit-R-Calls (love it) and a "Red Desert Howler" from Dan Thompson. Most of the open reed calls are going to be really similar, but starting out, I would get one with a smaller reed, I've found that they are easier to use, that's why I like the "Song Dog" so well.

Also, there are a bunch of websites where you can download free coyote calls, that would be good to practice to. One of them that comes to mind is www.varmintal.com (http://www.varmintal.com) . He has all kinds of info on coyote calling and hunting.

I just looked on Varmint Als site. He has a complete 20 minute & 16 minute calling sequence that you can download and play. All you SHOULD have to do it get a good set up and shoot. Go to www.varmintal.com/ahunt.htm#Calling-Sequence.

[1ncamo]

I dont know how it would work for you but I tried a nifty combo recently and foud it work out quite well. Started with an "interrogation" howl, waited about 2-3 minutes then hit the pup distress. That seems to have a big draw to it. The way it plays out in my head is that a male is challenging the territory and a pup comes to investigate and ends up getting his butt kicked. Its brought in quite a few dogs in the last few months.

[Sand Gap Sniper]

I always like to get a scenario in my head like that before I start calling too. It makes a lot more sense to do that than to just sit down and making random sounds.

[ditchdigger]

Do you think yotes are starting to cross breed with dogs? Sure seem to hear a lot of them anymore!

[weedwalker]

YES, They will breed with dogs. That's what they call a Coydog.

[Sand Gap Sniper]

YES, They will breed with dogs. That's what they call a Coydog.

I'm going to have to start cross breeding them with turtles so I can kill one. :D