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hootowlman
08-07-2007, 10:05 PM
I recently purchased a 2007 bowtech allegiance new from a bowtech dealer . My issue with the bow is that when I nock an arrow one of the vanes(2"blazer vanes) is making contact with one of the bus cables. I have taken it back to the dealer and they checked it and readjusted my center shot and told me to turn my nock to where the odd vane is off center by a pretty good amount (which is not right):mad: and this takes care of the problem. I am shooting a qad drop away rest I have set my nock to where the center of it lines up with the odd vane changed the cable slide to 2 or 3 different types and still have the same issue. The dealer says to turn the nock and its ok but I use this thinking if I had a tm hunter style rest and not the drop away it would hit the cable with every shot you put through the bow :eek: but this is ok for a $700 bare naked bow. :mad: Guys I am so mad at this bow that if I do not find a fix for it by this weekend I am going to try my best and trade it, even if I lose money :mad: If this is the kind of product bowtech is putting on the market I bought 2 of their bows at once my first and my last.

nutcase
08-07-2007, 11:52 PM
before i start, im not dissing your dealer, i happen to be one.

Recheck the centershot yourself. first remove the stabilizer, nock an arrow and look down from the top axle bolt, toward the bottom, if the arrow is not dead center, looking form bolt to bolt, there will be contact.

If that is not the case make sure that the cables are crossing on the correct side of the slide, i cant remember which way is correct from home, but if it is currently crossing above, change it to below, or vise versa.

if there is still contact, check and make sure your rest and nocking point are high enough off the riser, most shoot the best with the bottom of the arrow being in the top half of the berger hole.

lastly spin the nock around the arrow and see if all the blazers contact the string or only a few do. There have been some quality control issues at bohning and i had a whole batch that were cut too tall.

in most cases these three steps will fix the problem of they dont pm me and i will figure it out. I have fixed many clearance issues and most can be solved by doing the above.

raven_over_easy
08-07-2007, 11:57 PM
This is why friends dont let friends shoot a bowtech. lol

keith meador
08-08-2007, 06:58 AM
i am with nutcase on this one. bowtech has a very wide shelf area, my guess is the rest is run in just a bit. i shoot blazers out of an allegiance and have no contact issues.

hootowlman
08-08-2007, 08:40 AM
Thanks for the help guys I will recheck everything tonight & post what I find. I really like this bow but this clearance issue has about got the best of me. If I can't get it lined out I guess I will try to find another dealer to take it too.:D

hootowlman
08-08-2007, 09:14 PM
Here are some pics my problem.

keith meador
08-08-2007, 09:33 PM
without having the bow in my hands, it is hard to tell by the pics why your arrow is so close to your cables. is the cable guard secure? factory slide? i shoot blazer vanes for hunting and have no issues with vane clearance.

kison
08-08-2007, 09:55 PM
I've got 4 bowtechs and have experienced this problem on two of them. In my opinion, they are terrific bows. You might try switching out the cable slide. I just put a saunders hyperglide on my guardian and fixed this exact problem. I shoot blazers as well. On my allegiance, I have a MZE and did turn my nocks to resolve the issue. It didn't really bother me and shot like a dream. Best of luck.

Kelly

JDMiller
08-08-2007, 09:58 PM
In those pics those Blazers look extremely tall. I'll also add that I'm a little out of the compound game for the last couple years... but the cables crossing on the same side of the cable guard as the rest looks odd... is that normal on a Bowtech. (pic on right)

JDMiller
08-08-2007, 10:12 PM
I just looked at their website and it answered my question. Its correct.

hootowlman
08-08-2007, 10:18 PM
The pics are with the factory cable slide. The cables are how they were when the bow came out of the box from the factory. Also if you cross them aboe the cable slide the vane still hits the cable. I have bought another cable slide and it still has the same problem. But I have a cable slide that came off of my old pse bow that pulls the cables in and it fixs the problem but the cables rub BAD:confused:

JDMiller
08-08-2007, 10:21 PM
With a drop-away ... if set-up correctly should be clear of the vanes on release ...unlike a TM Hunter where you shoot cock vane down to slide between the prongs. To me ... I'd just shoot cock-vane out like traditional shooters and it should correct the issue. I'd try it and paper tune and see if it gave you a bullet hole.

hootowlman
08-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Thanks for all the help guys :D I will give it a shot and see what happens.

kison
08-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Hey Hoot, not to point you to another site, but huntingnet.com has a ton of bowtech guys with a lot of info, you might check their technical forum.

nutcase
08-09-2007, 10:41 AM
which shelf are you using on that qad? the tall one or the orginal? the nocking point looks to be setting low.

Hammer
08-09-2007, 11:26 AM
This is why friends dont let friends shoot a bowtech. lol

lol!!!!!!!!

keith meador
08-09-2007, 03:04 PM
which shelf are you using on that qad? the tall one or the orginal? the nocking point looks to be setting low.

are there any cam leaning issues with the 07 bow wrecks? that could be a problem......

150PandY
08-09-2007, 03:44 PM
They way that I would fix it would be to TRADE IT IN ON A MATHEWS!!!!......

hootowlman
08-09-2007, 07:06 PM
which shelf are you using on that qad? the tall one or the orginal? the nocking point looks to be setting low.

I think it is the tall one I have one that says taller and I put them side by side and they are the same. I don't have an orginal being that the dealer set the bow up and did not give me it . I have the taller one from a Mathews bow that I set up for a friend. If I turn the odd vane out it fixs my problem but I worry about it hitting the rest. I haven't shot yet to see if it clears if it does I will probably leave it that way being as I can't get it lined out.:confused:

hootowlman
08-09-2007, 07:09 PM
They way that I would fix it would be to TRADE IT IN ON A MATHEWS!!!!......

You wanna trade? .........LOL , My last bow was a Mathews that I had about 5 Years without any trouble..... Looks Like selling it to my buddy was a bad idea..........:D

hootowlman
08-09-2007, 08:23 PM
Bowtech just emailed me back and said when using higher profile vanes such as blazers you should change the cable slide to an aftermarket one that allows more clearance:( I wonder if I cahanged to a 4" vane if it would clear? I have got some and they look to be lower profile.

letmfly
08-09-2007, 08:37 PM
I'm not going to begin to try to tell you what the problem is, because of course I'll be wrong, and I don't have any idea anyway. I had the same problem on a PSE once, I returned it to the online dealer and bought a different model. Set it up and had no problems. I've set up lots of bows and could not figure out why that bow was doing that. Just think about all the new cars that have to go back into the shop after you drive it off the lot, there's going to be a few lemons out there sometimes.