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Gygsbd12
08-05-2007, 08:16 PM
I am having some trouble with target panic and I am looking for a Golden Key Answer Release. They seem to be hard to find, but I shot one this weekend and it really made a difference. It's an anti-punch release that is a wrist strap model. It has a clear plastic window on the side. If anyone has seen one or would like to sell one please pm me. Thanks...

keith meador
08-05-2007, 08:49 PM
the answer release does prevent you from punching, but it does not solve the problem. learning to shoot correctly, using back tension is the only cure for your problem. if you truly want to fix your problem, buy a true back tension release, and learn to shoot it. you should never have a problem again.

letmfly
08-06-2007, 10:43 AM
I've had minor target panic before. The way I overcame it was by drawing my bow (with my finger behind the trigger as I always do) and aiming at the target but not shooting. Keeping my finger behind the trigger and aiming for awhile, then letting up. After awhile I would draw, aim, put my finger in front of the trigger like I was going to shoot and then put my finger back behind the trigger again and then letting up. Let your sight pin float a bit if you can't hold it steady, that's not uncommon. If you can learn to aim and relax, get that sight pin steady or let if float around a little bit, shoot some, just aim and let the bow back down on some aiming sessions.

keith meador
08-06-2007, 04:40 PM
I've had minor target panic before. The way I overcame it was by drawing my bow (with my finger behind the trigger as I always do) and aiming at the target but not shooting. Keeping my finger behind the trigger and aiming for awhile, then letting up. After awhile I would draw, aim, put my finger in front of the trigger like I was going to shoot and then put my finger back behind the trigger again and then letting up. Let your sight pin float a bit if you can't hold it steady, that's not uncommon. If you can learn to aim and relax, get that sight pin steady or let if float around a little bit, shoot some, just aim and let the bow back down on some aiming sessions.


keeping your finger behind the trigger does not fix the problem. the mind knows you are not going to shoot the shot, so it anticipates nothing. the punch comes into play when you are aiming, and your pin is on or near the spot you want to hit. instead of allowing the shot to happen while the pin floats on the spot, you punch the release before the pin gets off of the spot. this works well for a little while, until you start freezing up off of the spot, or you punch on the fly by, or start anticipating the shot and collapse in the shot without the release aid even firing.

learn to shoot a back tension release, period. you have to start at the beginning, and work through your shot sequence start to finish. shooting something without a trigger on it eleminates the punch urge.


target panic comes in many forms. freezing off of the spot, punching the release before the sight pin gets on the spot, punching the trigger while the pin is on the spot, punching the trigger and the release aid not firing (swing and a miss).

nutcase
08-06-2007, 05:05 PM
Keith is right, a back tension is the ONLY way to cure target panic, after you learn to shoot one you can incorporate the shot sequence into any release you want to use, currently i only shoot an evolution(back tension) for practice and i hunt and shoot mainly with a choc lite which is a thumb release, i cant even use a wrist style anymore and have any kind of accuracy

letmfly
08-06-2007, 07:02 PM
keith, if you read my the whole paragraph you would have read I worked up to putting my finger in front of the trigger and then letting the bow down. A back tension release can't be the only way to overcome target panic, that's like saying theres only one way to train a bird dog. It worked for me, drawing the bow and not shooting, eventually aiming with the finger in front of the trigger realizing I did not have to shoot. If someone is shooting fine and then gets target panic, it is psychological, not the realease aid. Now I'm not arguing the a back tension release won't work, but it can't be the only fix.

keith meador
08-06-2007, 08:46 PM
keith, if you read my the whole paragraph you would have read I worked up to putting my finger in front of the trigger and then letting the bow down. A back tension release can't be the only way to overcome target panic, that's like saying theres only one way to train a bird dog. It worked for me, drawing the bow and not shooting, eventually aiming with the finger in front of the trigger realizing I did not have to shoot. If someone is shooting fine and then gets target panic, it is psychological, not the realease aid. Now I'm not arguing the a back tension release won't work, but it can't be the only fix.

100% correct. it is not an affliction of the release, it is caused by the mind. to correct the mind, you must re-teach the mind what it is to shoot correctly. finger placement on the trigger, front or back, does not eliminate target panic, nor will it cure it.

letmfly
08-06-2007, 09:54 PM
Okay Keith, I see that we need to discuss this over a few beers when you are visiting Quality KY. Actually we don't, the beer and friends will do!! Hopefully I'll get to meet the doe assasin this year. One favor, don't shoot all the deer in the blacktop road field this year, leaving one spotted fawn for my son to hunt in that area!!:)

Gygsbd12
08-06-2007, 10:06 PM
I completely agree that it is mental and the release is not the problem. The target panic started in May and I thought that If I shot more in June and July the problem would work itself out. I was wrong and I have been working with friends to try many different releases and techniques. I tried several of the back tension releases and the "anti punch" release and what feels most comfortable for me was the Golden Key Answer Release. It can be de tuned to use as a hunting release and then if the problem re apprears I can turn it back on. The owner said I can practice with it at his place but he is a firm believer in it. I am watching ebay and I hope to find one soon. Thanks for all of the advice!

bkw3m
08-08-2007, 10:33 PM
Keith, I've had some minor problems myself with target panic myself and am thinking of getting a back tension release. I've heard that its good to get one with a safety latch, is this true. I've looked at the Carter Solution 2 release, is this a good one. I would like a recommendation from you, if you don't mind as its obvious you know what your talking about when it comes to target panic.

keith meador
08-08-2007, 10:42 PM
Keith, I've had some minor problems myself with target panic myself and am thinking of getting a back tension release. I've heard that its good to get one with a safety latch, is this true. I've looked at the Carter Solution 2 release, is this a good one. I would like a recommendation from you, if you don't mind as its obvious you know what your talking about when it comes to target panic.

anything with a safety will work. make sure if you buy a hinge type, it has a thumb peg installed. this aids in drawing and anchor. when you reach anchor, simply relax the thumb off of the peg and start with back tension.

i use a clicker. it lets me know my form is set up correctly, i am in alignment, and my anchor is where it should be. if the release clicks prematurely, or does not click when i hit anchor, i let the shot down and start over. zenith sells a kit that has a full moon for learning to shoot back tension. the release will "click" instead of fire which eliminates any problem you have with losing arrows or hitting your self in the face with a release that goes off a little quick. i highly recommend the zenith for someone that wants to learn.

arshooter
08-09-2007, 10:42 PM
Keith has nailed this whole debate even if you are shooting a trigger release once you learn too shoot a bt you will shoot a trigger the same way..the finger is a over rated thing use every thing but your finger to make one go off..shoot it like a bt once you learn it..