View Full Version : Wrestler Chris Benoit and family found dead
ky_bull
06-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Couldnt believe this when i found out, one of the last real grapplers of wreslting.
MsgMills
06-25-2007, 09:20 PM
Anymore news about this?
ky_bull
06-25-2007, 09:23 PM
Nothing so far, just that Chris, wife and his son were found dead in their home. Only thing the police is saying is that they were not shot.
th5isback5
06-25-2007, 09:36 PM
Yea, I have just seen this also, I am actually watching it on t.v., thier showing some of his old matches, I couldnt belive it
westkybanded
06-25-2007, 09:45 PM
woah.......
nwest
06-25-2007, 09:54 PM
wow he was always a good wrestler. Wonder what happened
westkybanded
06-25-2007, 09:55 PM
Wrestler Benoit, wife and son found dead
27 minutes ago
FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. - WWE wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and son were found dead Monday and police said they were investigating the deaths as a homicide.
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Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department said the three were found at their home about 2:30 p.m., but refused to release details.
Pope said results of autopsies on Benoit, his wife Nancy, and 7-year-old son Daniel were expected Tuesday.
Benoit, 40, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles over his career.
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the federation said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
Benoit, a Canadian native, maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
AteUp
06-25-2007, 09:58 PM
Hmm, starting to sound like a murder-suicide.
westkybanded
06-25-2007, 10:08 PM
Where do you get that?
MsgMills
06-25-2007, 10:23 PM
Let's don't go making accusations without proof, no one knows what happened so far except the authorities...... So let's wait and see what the evidence shows before passing any judgement on what happened...
AteUp
06-25-2007, 10:24 PM
-Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
Sounds like there were some problems going on already, he wasn't shot in a home invasion which means they would have had to kill all three of them with a knife if it was one. Something killed all three. Guess it could have been carbon monoxide poisoning or something like that.
th5isback5
06-25-2007, 10:25 PM
I dont see how suicide plays in, but you never know I guess. But chris will always be forgotten. This man truly showed what a wrestler was. He didnt come out with all the drama like these other wrestlers you see these day.He'll be missed
AteUp
06-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Let's don't go making accusations without proof, no one knows what happened so far except the authorities...... So let's wait and see what the evidence shows before passing any judgement on what happened...
How about I take a guess like everyone else is doing right now across the country? Geez o pete, you guys act like we're talking about the pope or something. Last night, less than a mile from mile house, there was a double-murder suicide. Sounds similar to me. What could have killed all three? Just speculating, and there's nothing at all wrong with that.
Xi Bowhunter
06-25-2007, 10:28 PM
Maybe he got mixed up with the wrong type of people????
westkybanded
06-25-2007, 10:29 PM
Could have been a crossbow accident!
"That ain't right, Lord I apologize for that right there and be with the starving pygmies down there in New Guinea there, Amen"
AteUp
06-26-2007, 02:23 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4919896.html
FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. — WWE wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife, and son were found dead Monday and police said they were investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide.
Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being treated as a murder-suicide, but said that couldn't be confirmed until evidence was examined by a crime lab.
The station said that investigators believe the 40-year-old Benoit killed his wife, Nancy, and 7-year-old son, Daniel, over the weekend, then himself on Monday. A neighbor called police, and the bodies were found in three rooms.
Lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope, of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department, told The Associated Press the deaths were being investigated as homicide, and that the causes of death awaited autopsy results on Tuesday. Pope said the bodies were discovered about 2:30 p.m., but refused to release details.
The house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and a double-iron gate. On Monday night, the house was dark except for a few outside lights. There was a police car in front, along with two uniformed officers.
Benoit was a former world heavyweight and Intercontinental champion. He also held several tag-team titles during his career.
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the federation said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
The native of Canada maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
"My relationship with Chris has extended many years and I consider him a great friend," Carl DeMarco, the president of WWE Canada, said in a statement. "Chris was always first-class — warm, friendly, caring and professional one of the best in our business."
maxcam
06-26-2007, 02:34 AM
I read that he and his family failed to show up for some family mediation counsiling Monday so they went out to his house and found them dead....Sounds like there were some serious issues there.....Its a shame....
rjgoud01
06-26-2007, 02:59 AM
More and more things like this keep happening. Everything Ive read, people have said he was a great guy in his personal life. You never know what's troubling people these days.
KY_Fried
06-26-2007, 09:52 AM
This whole thing really sucks. Should the WWE have even bothered giving him a tribute or should they just kinda write him off like football did with OJ Simpson? Time will tell I guess but it's not looking good for him right now.
MsgMills
06-26-2007, 10:53 AM
If the report is accurate then it's a shame for sure and Ateup, you called it right. But I didn't say or even imply that the guy was like the Pope. He was just popular in the Wrestling Business and a lot of people knew who he was. It's just a terrible thing for something like this to take place, people there's help out in the world for anyone who needs it, all you got to do is ask.....
Kentuck
06-26-2007, 01:16 PM
Wrestler Benoit strangled wife, smothered son, hung himself in weight room
By DEBBIE NEWBY ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
Article Launched: 06/26/2007 09:54:40 AM PDT
ATLANTA -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.
The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said test results may not be back for weeks or even months. Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation in DeKalb County.
KYCatBirdHunter
06-26-2007, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=Kentuck;429550]Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide. QUOTE]
This should be a real deep investigation...... um.... "Yes"
AteUp
06-26-2007, 04:10 PM
http://www.sondralondon.com/attract/suicide/index.htm
OBSESSION
An obsessive attachment to a woman can be so strong in some men that if they can't have them, they want to end it all for them both. It's the ultimate in getting the last word.
The intimate couple is usually in their twenties or thirties. The man is abusive, psychologically and/or physically. All of his passion and pain are focused on the woman. Obsessed with her to the extent that he feels he can’t live without her, he is fiercely jealous and determined to isolate her. He decides if they can’t live together, they can die together.
So dependent are these men on their women that they would sooner be dead than to live without them. But suicide is frightening. They resist. They can’t get up the nerve to do it. They find a way to force themselves over the edge. Once they kill the woman, their resistance is gone and they turn the weapon on themselves. After committing a homicide, the reasoning goes, the only way out is suicide.
Research
In mental health jargon, suicidal murderers would be called antisocial, at the very least. They are driven to kill, as well as be killed. Hurt and anger have given them complete disregard for the lives of others.
A medical-risk report from Yale University School of Medicine states that homicide-suicides are more similar to suicides than they are to homicides, in that suicidal thoughts and hopelessness are predominant.
The higher the homicide rate in a given location, the lower the rate of suicide-murder. The United States has a very low rate of four to five percent, for example, while Denmark’s rate runs closer to forty-two percent.
In my own state of Iowa, with a low crime rate, between 1995 and 2005, 106 Iowans killed a domestic partner or spouse. The most commonly reported factor in Iowa was an impending breakup. Ninety-six of the killers were men; and about half of them committed suicide shortly after the murder.
The state with the largest number of cases in 2002 was Florida, with thirty-five. A typical sunbelt murder-suicide involves the most pathetic kind of breakup: an elderly man, overwhelmed by his inability to care for his beloved wife, takes her with him when he makes his final exit.
massive horns
06-27-2007, 12:18 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19424899/?GT1=10056
AteUp
06-27-2007, 12:50 AM
Geez, does everybody that takes steroids a murderer? Is everyone that commits a murder-suicide on steroids? It's ridiculous to even head down that path. There's plenty of A-holes out there NOT on steroids. They can never prove steroids had anything to do with this tragedy.
Multidigits
06-27-2007, 02:05 AM
The article said 'roids.....maybe it was HEMroids????
cephus
06-27-2007, 08:04 AM
They can never prove steroids had anything to do with this tragedy.
I have to disagree. Having spent plenty of time in the gym and seen alot of guys "juicin" I can tell you it affects them differently. They will be able to detemine if steroids played a role in this.
raven_over_easy
06-27-2007, 08:11 AM
The article said 'roids.....maybe it was HEMroids????
LOL...srry
KYCatBirdHunter
06-27-2007, 08:27 AM
Let's see, you have a guy who's job was to take as many roids as his body could handle, until he was a juiced up monster. Then he flips out and kills his family and hangs himself. I agree it does affect some people differently, but it would appear it caused this guy to flip out and kill his family.
KYhunter79
06-27-2007, 08:32 AM
I dont think that you can blame this double murder-suicide on steroids. That's rediculous to me. It takes a sick person to kill his wife, and an even sicker person to smother his 7 year old son. I don't think that has anything to do with any kind of drugs. It has to do with a messed up mind.
trust me
06-27-2007, 08:41 AM
I know nothing of Benoit or of wrestling in general, but I know what steroids can do to people. A co-worker's son is a perfect example. He started abusing the stuff as a teenager and it wasn't long until the rages got him in a lot of trouble. His hormonal rage was directed at friends, girlfriends, the police, etc. This type of behavior stopped when he quit the juice and stopped looking like a freak.
It is completely possible that this guy flew into a rage and did this as a result of steroids. The autopsy will prove or disprove by the levels of the stuff still in his system. It also is completely possible that he was just a nut job with short-man syndrome.
KYhunter79
06-27-2007, 08:59 AM
I have read that he killed his wife on Friday and his son on saturday and himself on Monday. And that he killed his wife on saturday, his son on sunday and himself on monday. Either way, he knew what was going on.
westkybanded
06-27-2007, 09:14 AM
I just read that his son had old needle marks on his arms. Apparently he was just shy of being a dwarf, and his folks had been giving him HGH (Human Growth Hormone) to try and get him bigger.
WhiteRubi
06-27-2007, 09:19 AM
Guys, juice may aggervate an already agressive person, but if it were so bad, every NFL, MLB, pro bodybuilder and pro wrestler would have a murder charge over their head, not to mention high school and college atheletes. Far too many people take the stuff to blame it on roids. I'm guessing he already had an issue or two aggrevated by a family matter. I've known plenty of people that take roids. Some agressive regardless, some are as docile as a bunny rabbit, on and off the juice.
On another note, I read somewhere, (could be pure speculation) that his wife killed the son, he got home and killed the wife then killed himself.
naturalelite
06-27-2007, 09:35 AM
I've known plenty of people that take roids. Some agressive regardless, some are as docile as a bunny rabbit, on and off the juice.
I agree steroids do not make you a nut job. I think its like anything else with society today. People can't account for their own actions so they have to have something to blame it on. I couldn't imagine being a relative of these three they have taken a tremendous loss this week.
westkybanded
06-27-2007, 09:52 AM
On another note, I read somewhere, (could be pure speculation) that his wife killed the son, he got home and killed the wife then killed himself.
Would have been hard. Wife died first.
WhiteRubi
06-27-2007, 10:05 AM
Would have been hard. Wife died first.
Not discounting what you are saying but, who the hell knows? I wasn't at the crime scene. I think ALOT of information is still not released. What has been released may or may not be true. They did say that once released, it would be a very strange series of events. Killing his wife, his kid, and then himself isn't really THAT strange, unfortunately. It happens all to often. It would, however, prove to be a little odd if she killed the kid then he killed her followed by his own suicide.
westkybanded
06-27-2007, 06:45 PM
Now the news is reporting that not only was the 7 yr old son an abnormally small child, he was also mentally retarded.
"The child suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism, McDevitt said."
I can't even imagine the meltdown that would trigger this type of behavior.
Multidigits
06-27-2007, 07:04 PM
The wife was killed on Friday, the boy on Saturday. She couldn't have done it, because she was already dead.
The fricken guy is a certified nut case, due to frying his brain on drugs. This is a classic case of what steriods cause people to do.
quackrstackr
06-27-2007, 07:05 PM
I also read today that his wife had her hands and feet bound.
His excuses for not being where he was supposed to be over the weekend were that his wife and son had food poisoning and that his wife was vomiting blood at one point (real text and voice messages left by him). I wonder if he was just spinning it as he went along or if he was trying to figure out a way to cover up what he had done before he decided on suicide.
Everyone that talked to him in person said he sounded extremely groggy and not like himself.
WhiteRubi
06-27-2007, 07:24 PM
The wife was killed on Friday, the boy on Saturday. She couldn't have done it, because she was already dead.
I understand that is what has been reported. BUT, I heard that in one report she killed the kid, obviously before she had been killed.
This is a classic case of what steriods cause people to do.
If it was so classic, there would be ALOT more cases of pro athletes killing people. I think he was a nut, period. Perhaps all of the men out there with a testosterone patch will start killing people too.
Multidigits
06-27-2007, 08:36 PM
I understand that is what has been reported. BUT, I heard that in one report she killed the kid, obviously before she had been killed.
If it was so classic, there would be ALOT more cases of pro athletes killing people. I think he was a nut, period. Perhaps all of the men out there with a testosterone patch will start killing people too.
Crime scene investigators have pinpointed the time of death. She didn't kill the kid.
There are lots of steriod caused cases on record. This is just one of them.
quackrstackr
06-27-2007, 10:15 PM
If it was so classic, there would be ALOT more cases of pro athletes killing people. I think he was a nut, period. Perhaps all of the men out there with a testosterone patch will start killing people too.
Well, maybe not other people, but
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6964262?MSNHPHMA
killinmammals
06-28-2007, 01:26 AM
steriods can seriously mess with a persons mental health, as well as physical. I know people that used 'roids before and while on them most of the people weren't themselves. Luckily they all realized what damage they were doing before it was too late(hopefully) If you actually knew how many college football(and all sports)players where using roids you would be in shock..I know a few d-1 players...past and couple present...and its unreal. Bad stuff, but most of the people had issues to kill themselves, the roids just helped fuel it along.
AteUp
06-28-2007, 01:34 AM
If you actually knew how many college football(and all sports)players where using roids you would be in shock..I know a few d-1 players...past and couple present...and its unreal. Bad stuff, but most of the people had issues to kill themselves, the roids just helped fuel it along.
Exactly. Not every roid head is a killer. There is absolutely no way anyone can prove that what this idiot did was BECAUSE of steroids. That will never be anything more than speculation.
Multidigits
06-28-2007, 02:15 AM
Your probably right, steriods are really just mood enhancers and all those good people that have flip out while using them are just a fluke. I'm betting that OJ is the real killer?
AteUp
06-28-2007, 02:35 AM
Your probably right, steriods are really just mood enhancers and all those good people that have flip out while using them are just a fluke. I'm betting that OJ is the real killer?
Keith Northern killed 2 people and himself on Eastern Pkwy Sunday night. He was not on steroids. You can't nail everything down in such simplistic terms Multi and you know it. You are just trying to argue because you are always right in your mind. If you want to say every steroid user is a psycho killer, then everyone who has ever been given a ticket for a game violation is a poacher. There are no extenuating circumstances, no other reasons why. Plain and simple, no two ways about it. This is not a personal attack, you can't have it both ways.
AteUp
06-28-2007, 02:49 AM
http://www.kentuckyhunting.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4176
I never advocate murder, but you'd probably only get 10 or 15 years, less if you get a pro-hunting judge.
If we judge just on this post multi, you also condone murder. Are you on steroids?
Multidigits
06-28-2007, 03:09 AM
Keith Northern killed 2 people and himself on Eastern Pkwy Sunday night. He was not on steroids. You can't nail everything down in such simplistic terms Multi and you know it. You are just trying to argue because you are always right in your mind. If you want to say every steroid user is a psycho killer, then everyone who has ever been given a ticket for a game violation is a poacher. There are no extenuating circumstances, no other reasons why. Plain and simple, no two ways about it. This is not a personal attack, you can't have it both ways.
Most supervisors are pri%$&, does that mean that all of them are? Maybe I'm a poacher and your a pri%$& (using your analogy).
I don't care if this turkey flipped out because of steriods or not, but if he did, he will have plenty of company that have done so before for no apparent reason other than they used steriods.
BTW, I've never considered being right most of the time as being a bad trait. If you do a little bit of research before hand, it always helps. Tons of research out there on flip-outs because of steriod use. Just because your a supervisor, you don't like peons that you consider inferior being correct, when your not. You really don't know any more about this nut job than do I, so in your opinion, steriods are good for guys like this lost sole. I say they aren't. That's my opinion, which is all it was until you made it personal.
No, I don't condone murder, but can see why it happens a lot of times.
maxcam
06-28-2007, 03:11 AM
Steroid use or abuse by athletes has been well documented in the past. The psychological effect these drugs have are tremendous. Users of anabolic steroids often times suffer severe mood swings from deep depression to unprovoked rage.
There were several factors that produced the outcome with Chris Benoit and his family. There was obviously a lot of personal strife going on in his life with his child and marriage. Unfortunately those types of conflicts don't blend together well with any substance abuser......
Steroid abuse is no different than any other drug, including alcohol. The end result was predictable, unfortunately no one cared enough about this family or individual to intervene and help avoid this tragedy. In my mind that is as great a crime as what took place in their home.
AteUp
06-28-2007, 03:18 AM
Most supervisors are pri%$&, does that mean that all of them are? Maybe I'm a poacher and your a pri%$& (using your analogy).
I don't care if this turkey flipped out because of steriods or not, but if he did, he will have plenty of company that have done so before for no apparent reason other than they used steriods.
BTW, I've never considered being right most of the time as being a bad trait. If you do a little bit of research before hand, it always helps. Tons of research out there on flip-outs because of steriod use. Just because your a supervisor, you don't like peons that you consider inferior being correct, when your not. You really don't know any more about this nut job than do I, so in your opinion, steriods are good for guys like this lost sole. I say they aren't. That's my opinion, which is all it was until you made it personal.
No, I don't condone murder, but can see why it happens a lot of times.
Plenty more people out there that are steroid users than murderers. Also plenty of pricks out there that aren't supervisors.:eek: And not all supervisors are pricks. But if you are calling me out on being a supervisor, then I'm guilty. I became one because I wanted to be part of the solution, rather than the problem. I'm sure that's why you brought the whole supervisor thing into play??
Multidigits
06-28-2007, 03:55 AM
Plenty more people out there that are steroid users than murderers. Also plenty of pricks out there that aren't supervisors.:eek: And not all supervisors are pricks. But if you are calling me out on being a supervisor, then I'm guilty. I became one because I wanted to be part of the solution, rather than the problem. I'm sure that's why you brought the whole supervisor thing into play??
Your making this a perrsonal deal, so here goes. You and most others become supervisors because you have to be in control in order to function. Nothing new about that, and it's not always a bad thing unless they let it go to their head. Some want to manage as if they are Marine Corp drill instructors. In your mind, somehow, you think that all the information out there about steriod use isn't true or that it didn't effect this turkey like they have hundreds of other bobbleheads that used them. I wonder, as a control freak, would you condone illegal drug use by your employees, if it would make them more productive, so that in the long run, your job proformance would improve? I don't know why else anyone would make excuses for this meathead and excuse his behavior.
I'm done, not real smart talking back to the man. In hindsight, both this nut case and the West End dude are really great citizens. Heck, they only killed a few people, and all of them were in their own family. No harm, no foul. Hope the give them a dewey button.
AteUp
06-28-2007, 04:01 AM
I'm not a control freak. If I was, you'd be gone from here forever. Which might happen anyway.
Multidigits
06-28-2007, 04:30 AM
Yeah, I figured that's what you're after when you started all this.
AteUp
06-28-2007, 04:46 AM
Yeah, I figured that's what you're after when you started all this.
Yea, like I started this and anybody has to fish for something on you.:rolleyes:
ky_bull
06-28-2007, 05:47 AM
Allright fellers, this post has gone on long enough, never intended for anyone to get threaten or feelings hurt. Id admire Benoit at one time, but like alot of atheltes Id admire in the past I was badly mistaken. The whole ordeal of Benoit killing his family has made me sick, steroids or not. Moderator please end, delete this post.
B.G.O. of Kentucky
06-28-2007, 05:53 AM
I became a supervisor/manager because it paid more, I could care a less about control, only controlling my bank flow.
I don't know if steriods were the reason, but I bet they certainly didn't help.
MsgMills
06-28-2007, 06:51 AM
As most everyone knows I was a Supervisor in the Military and they are a different Breed than the Civilian Market.... You have experience in the field when you take over and become a Supervisor. This is what makes great supervisors.
In the Civilian Market, most Supervisors are not trained in the making of the product or know very much about it. Therefore it hurts the production of the product. The Civilian Supervisor uses threats of Firing or writing up the worker in order to control the workers. If ALL supervisors were required to be workers first and then apply for a Supervisor's job the Real world would run a lot better in honest opinion. Then Supervisor's would know first hand what the problem is and why it occured and be more willing to fix the problem. Instead of 90 % of the time telling the employee that they are always right, when 80 % of the time the employee knows more than the Supervisor will ever know...
As far as Threatening Multidigits, Ateup your taking your Authority too far, you have the Power to Ban someone who has different Opinions than you and you don't like it. So you try and use your power to try and make this person see only your side of the story.
So if you want to BAN me, go ahead and do it...Don't matter to me...I just will find another way to occupy my time that I spend on this Board.
That's the greatest thing about different Opinions...People learn from them and become wiser and learn more each day......
quackrstackr
06-28-2007, 07:31 AM
Since this thread has nothing to do with supervisor/employee relationships, the unions or the state of the US economy.........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/quackrstackr/backontopic.jpg
MsgMills
06-28-2007, 10:49 AM
Just read another news article on the Deaths...The CEO of WWE, has said that it will take days, weeks or even months before they have Toxicology reports back on the blood system of Benoit.
He's hoping that the Steroids didn't have a impact on the situation, that took place. But just a terrible thing to take place for all families involved....
Maybe, but I doubt if it will open the eyes of the Roid users and they stop using them all together.....
WhiteRubi
06-28-2007, 11:29 AM
Maybe, but I doubt if it will open the eyes of the Roid users and they stop using them all together.....
Never happen. Professional athletes will always use steroids. Steroids have become the latest scapegoat in the war on drugs. It's just too easy to jump on the bandwagon after all of the MLB steroid crap. I won't dispute the fact that steroid ABUSE has ill effects. I will, however, dispute the fact that it caused people to kill their family or others. The list of dead wrestlers is not a surprise to me. DRUG use in general is rampant in wrestling, as it was in the earlier days of MMA. Pain killers, muscle relaxers, coke, meth, as well as the host of diet/energy OTC meds that these guys take to compete at that level...it's ridicilous.
Do I doubt that they will find evidence of steroid use during the autopsy/toxicology? HELL NO. Look at that guy. You will NEVER be able to prove that steroids caused him to kill his family. It's not as simple as a drunk driver blowing above the legal limit after killing somebody in a car wreck.
No matter what, it's a tragedy. I'm gonna stand by mental instability/depression.
B.M. Barrelcooker
06-28-2007, 11:35 AM
his wife and his own 7 year old son....................this dude is definatley not comin back around as a hummingbird. Maybe a cockroach or a maggot but no way a hummingbird!
maxcam
06-28-2007, 02:11 PM
I'm not a control freak. If I was, you'd be gone from here forever. Which might happen anyway
Yeah, I figured that's what you're after when you started all this.
Yea, like I started this and anybody has to fish for something on you.
I think you boys need to get Kalen up there to do an environmental study on the air quality you are breathing......You both seem to be suffering from the effect of benzene exposure.......:eek:
Redlined
06-28-2007, 03:32 PM
I know plenty of folks on the gear,and can tell you it depends on the person.Some will get so overly aggressive they spin out, others won't.Also know folks who've never touched the sauce,and are totally out of control.Did the roids help the situation?Of course not,but it looks like this guy was having some major life issues and this was what sent him over the edge.Somthing else not being mentioned here,is the type of steroids he was taking.Some are more powerful than others along with the neg. side effects i.e. aggressiveness,acne,bitchtit,etc.Most likely,he was overly aggressive in the first place,and this just magnified it.If he was an easy going or passive person,could have been a completely different outcome.:cool:
Tim T
06-29-2007, 09:01 AM
It seems that someone altered his Wikipedia page announcing his wifes death hours before police discovered the bodies.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2919341
killinmammals
06-29-2007, 11:25 AM
some news channel said that he had sent somebody text messages basically crying for help but nobody took it seriously.
quackrstackr
06-29-2007, 11:44 AM
I looked at the WWE site the other day and they had the text messages all listed.
They were all simply giving the house address with one telling which door would be open and that the dogs were penned up.
Sounded more like he wanted to make sure that they were found quickly than a cry for help. Most of them were sent before 4 am.
KYCatBirdHunter
06-29-2007, 12:01 PM
someone also posted about the death of his wife on Wikipedia 14 hours before the police found the bodies. Odd I thought.
Multidigits
06-29-2007, 12:32 PM
someone also posted about the death of his wife on Wikipedia 14 hours before the police found the bodies. Odd I thought.
Unless it was the nut case himself right before he popped some more good feelers.....smae as the cop killing kid did the other day in Indiana.
WhiteRubi
06-29-2007, 05:22 PM
Unless it was the nut case himself right before he popped some more good feelers.....smae as the cop killing kid did the other day in Indiana.
What I read stated it was sent from an IP address in Conneticut. I'm sure there is ways of tricking the systems, but that is also where the WWE HQ is, or so the article stated. :confused:
Roids are kind of like other drugs, say alcohol.
Some guys can drink 24 beers/night and get a little grouchy around 3 AM and then sleep it off, while others that drink 24 beers/night then beat their wives or jump in a car and kill people with their car.
Roids are drugs, they affect people differently. The logical conclusion by most is that people are more likely do strange things when under the influence of drugs. I think most people agree with that.
As far as the personal stuff in this thread, it seems that you ought to be able to post your opinion w/o someone posting personal stuff about you, especially an implied threat from a moderator who started the attack first. If the moderators aren't articulate enough to argue their point without threatening to ban a memeber they disagree with, maybe they shouldn't be commenting.
We all have our issues, K
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