Public water, private fish?

[GSP]

What do y'all think about allowing commercial fishermen to stock arm length paddlefish into lakes and then harvesting them later using 6" gill nets? There is already known "incidential losses" of large trophey game fish that will occur.
This is a topic that the legislators have charged the Dept of fish & wildlife to research. Wondering how everyone feels about this?



Edited by - gsp on 06/19/2002 8:37:03 PM

[Birdman]

It'll never take place.

[Flintlock54]

I hope it doesn't happen. I believe the "incidential loss" would be too high.

[raktrakr]

i have to agree. the loss would be enormous due to the paddle/game fish ratio

[oxmos]

I've got to agree with everyone so far. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me. If the commercial fishermen want to grow them....have them build their own places.

[GSP]

I too agree with y'all, but you had better keep your ear to the ground on this. The Legislators have charged the Dept to hold hearings on public opinion of a Aqua-culture program designed by Kentucky State University. Meetings will be held in the next couple of months. I'll try rounding up the dates.

[Multidigits]

Any info on which lakes are involved???

[GSP]

The handout says, <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Paddlefish reservoir ranching is being proposed for several pulic reservoirs in KY such as Beshear, Taylorsville, Barren River, Nolin River, Dewey, Herrington and Rough River lakes. A total of 20,000 acres of water over 10 years is being proposed for stocking. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Public meetings are planned for Bowling Green, Louisville and Morehead in Sept.

A mail survey of the general public and licensed anglers will be conducted in Sept.

A report is to be given to a legislative committee in Nov. 2002.

[Multidigits]

I'm against it. Gill nets in the Nolin River will catch lots of Walleye and white bass--both of which have great runs in the early spring.

[shogan]

Catfish farmers make their own places,

So do Shrimp, talapia, etc. In fact the move to most types of farming in this nature is more along the lines of contained not extraction. And where is the big demand for paddle fish?

Except maybe trout programs (which I always assumed was state run) and is not actually in the lake where is the precedence for commerical fisherman turning public waters in to commerical fisheries. And why would we want to start it now?

Further Gill nets what a waste. If this passes put me down on the rebels willing to sabotage lists. Where do commercial entripises on public lands end.

[Xtreme]

I've mentioned this briefly as a project for the Cyberhunters when we were first forming. I think it SUCKS!!!...how many big stripers, catfish etc. will this kill.

Move this to the cyberhunter thread please Darton and starting immediately I would like for a motion and a second to be made in the cyberhunter voteing booth that we draft a letter to Uofk and our legislators and fight this with all we have.

I've been discussing this privately with several folks since I found out about it and the striper fishermen are especially pissed off!

This is what Cyberhunters are designed for so lets get at it!!

[.300Savage]

I'm with you on this one Xtreme. Let's do this!

Rocco

[MULESKINNER]

xman,
is it UK or K state?
K state doesnt know their A$$ from a hole in the ground anyway.
At least their board of regents and president and financial officer doesnt.
L A T E R . . .

[GSP]

Ky State

[Multidigits]

He knew enough to screww the job up so bad that he'd get a $160,000 buy out.

[Xtreme]

I thought it was Uof K GSP. Anyway I am going to the election booth and call for a motion that we fight this tooth and "paddle".....Rick.

[GSP]

Hope it is K State

[Multidigits]

Here's the bill:


HJR210

WWW Version

HJR 210 (BR 2105) - R. Thomas

Direct Kentucky State University, the Kentucky Aquaculture Task Force, and the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources to conduct a series of statewide public meetings relating to the public support and regulation of reservoir ranching of paddlefish on public waters.

HJR 210 - AMENDMENTS

HCS - Retain original provisions, except to add that reservoir ranching of paddlefish should continue to be investigated for biological impacts and possible economic benefits.


Mar 4-introduced in House
Mar 5-to Agriculture and Small Business (H)
Mar 7-posted in committee
Mar 14-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute
Mar 15-2nd reading, to Rules; posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Monday, March 18, 2002
Mar 19-3rd reading, adopted 99-0 with Committee Substitute
Mar 20-received in Senate
Mar 25-to Agriculture and Natural Resources (S)
Mar 27-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Consent Calendar
Mar 28-2nd reading, to Rules
Mar 29-posted for passage in the Consent Orders of the Day for Friday, March 29, 2002; 3rd reading, adopted 38-0
Apr 1-received in House; enrolled, signed by each presiding officer; delivered to Governor
Apr 11-signed by Governor (Acts ch. 312)

[Salty]

Nope.......doesn't sound like good management to me.

[mossyhorns]

The demamd for paddlefish is their eggs -- caviar! Fish farms are beginning to stock paddlefish for this purpose which is a good idea. Doing it in a public lake is not a good idea.

[raktrakr]

<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>this sounds like a job for peta they'd be working on our side and not even know it(JOKING<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)

[Birdman]

There's a public meeting at Morehead on Sept. 12th at the Carl Perkins Center at 7:30 get there if you can.

[kyturkeyhunter]

the people at the KSU ag. farm which is right up the road from me must be pretty confident that this stocking will happen. they are already raising fingerling paddlefish,matter of fact a guy took a bunch to the local pet store for him to sell. i hope they get the rug pulled from under them on this.
K.T.H.