Pick Your Derby Winner

[BigDaddy]

Pick your derby winner! I am really liking some of these early odds :)

[kybowhunter64]

Bwana Bull

[BigDaddy]

Nobiz Like Shobiz

[schroader]

Ill take the winner:D :D

[AteUp]

May 5, 2007 - Churchill Downs - Post Time 6:04 p.m. ET
Post Horse Jockey Trainer Odds
1 Sedgefield Julien Leparoux Darrin Miller 50-1
2 Curlin Robby Albarado Steve Asmussen 7-2
3 Zanjero Shaun Bridgmohan Steve Asmussen 30-1
4 Storm in May Juan Leyva Bill Kaplan 30-1
5 Imawildandcrazyguy Mark Guidry Bill Kaplan 50-1
6 Cowtown Cat Fernando Jara Todd Pletcher 20-1
7 Street Sense Calvin Borel Carl Nafzger 4-1
8 Hard Spun Mario Pino J. Larry Jones 15-1
9 Liquidity David Flores Doug O'Neill 30-1
10 Teuflesberg Stewart Elliott Jamie Sanders 30-1
11 Bwana Bull Javier Castellano Jerry Hollendorfer 50-1
12 Nobiz Like Shobiz Cornelio Velasquez Barclay Tagg 8-1
13 Sam P. Ramon Dominguez Todd Pletcher 20-1
14 Scat Daddy Edgar Prado Todd Pletcher 10-1
15 Tiago Mike Smith John Shirreffs 15-1
16 Circular Quay John Velazquez Todd Pletcher 8-1
17 Stormello Kent Desormeaux Bill Currin 30-1
18 Any Given Saturday Garrett Gomez Todd Pletcher 12-1
19 Dominican Rafael Bejarano Darrin Miller 20-1
20 Great Hunter Corey Nakatani Doug O'Neill 15-1

[AteUp]

I like to root for horses whose owners have KY ties. Here's a few this year.

Dominican & Sedgefield

Silverton Hill is the namesake of Tommy and Bonnie Hamilton, who also own the top 3-year-old Sedgefield. The Hamiltons have been in Saddlebred business for several years, including 1999 World Champion 3-gaited horse Yes It's True. His sale allowed them to get into the Thoroughbred business, winning their first stakes with Neon Shadow in 1999. Tommy founded a coal mining company with operations in Kentucky and Virginia. Bonnie was a surgical nurse for 25 years in Owensboro, KY. Their 1,500 acre farm is near Springfield, KY, about 40 miles from Louisville. In addition to having a seven-furlong Polytrack training surface, the farm also is used for grain, hay and cattle raising. The farm is home to about ten broodmares and their foals. This would be their first entrant in the Kentucky Derby.

Any Given Saturday

WinStar Farm, Maverick Racing and Padua Stable
WinStar Farm is a Thoroughbred racing and breeding operation located in Versailles, Ky that is owned by Bill Casner (pictured) and Kenny Troutt. Casner grew up in El Paso, Texas. In 1963, at the age of 15, he started galloping horses at Sunland Park. He put him self through college at Tarleton State University by galloping throughbreds, including champion Cho Croute. Upon graduation Casner embarked on a training career in the midwest. In 1979 Casner left the Thoroughbred industry. He and Troutt founded Excel Communications. Casner re-entered racing in the mid 1990’s through various partnerships. Mr. Casner is currently chairman of the board for the Thoroughbred Owner Breeders Association, vice chairman and co-founder of the Kentucky Equine Education Project (KEEP), and he serves on the board of trustees for Breeders' Cup. He was also a founding board member for The Race For Education Inc., a national scholarship foundation that provides educational opportunities to children of racing’s backside workers and farm workers. Mr. Casner, his wife Susan and their daughter Kayce are residents of Flower Mound, Texas. WinStar farm encompasses approximately 1450 acres after current development is completed the farm will include 10 barns, a state of the art foaling complex, a newly renovated stallion complex and training barn and research lab. The farm is home to the stallions Tiznow, Speightstown, Distorted Humor, Victory Gallop, and Our Emblem. WinStar has campaigned the stakes winners Awesome Humor, License Fee, Mr. Mellon solely or in partnerships and bred 2003 Derby and Preakness winner Funny Cide. They had their first Derby starter in 2006, when Bluegrass Cat was second to Barbaro. Up until the spring of 2005, WinStar employed Elliott Walden as their trainer. Walden retired from training to take a position at WinStar, and at that time the horses were spread among a variety of trainers, including Todd Pletcher.

Teuflesberg

Gary Logsdon, Donnie Kelly and Jamie Sanders
Logsdon, 61, is a Bowling Green, Kentucky attorney and lifelong friend of trainer Jamie Sanders. He has been involved with racing for over 30 years, and prior to Teuflesberg, his best horse was the multiple stakes winning filly Spectacular Lisa. Logsdon gave Teuflesberg his name, which mean's "Devil's Mountain" in German. The actual place is located near the Berlin Wall. Logsdon and his wife Amanda have seven children.
Donnie Kelly, 30, is Sanders' fiancee. The couple live on Limestone Farm in Lawrenceberg, Kentucky. Kelly grew up in New Mexico, where his family was involved with Quarter Horses and Thoroughbreds. His father is a blacksmith. Kelly has worked for trainers Ronnie Werner and Nick Zito. Kelly and Sanders bought Teuflesberg for $9,000 at Fasig-Tipton's October yearling auction.


I think I'm gonna root against this one. For some reason the fact that his wife "Jerry's wife Ann is active in environmental pursuits and is the founder of the Dolphin Connection." rubs me the wrong way. Especially when they are involved in horse racing.

Tiago
Mr. & Mrs. Jerome S. Moss
Jerry Moss co-founded A&M records, which was at the time the largest independent record company when he sold it to Polygram in 1990. A&M recorded such acts as The Police, Burt Bacharach and Joe Cocker. Moss now is the chairman of Rondor Music, which he co-owns with Herb Albert. Jerry's wife Ann is active in environmental pursuits and is the founder of the Dolphin Connection. The Mosses have been involved in racing for about 35 years, winning their first stake in 1983 with Fighting Fit. They won the Kentucky Oaks (GI) with Sardula in 1994, and won the Kentucky Derby with their first and only starter, Giacomo in 2005.

[MsgMills]

Believe it or not, but I always have my best luck picking a horse that has the word " CAT " in it's name....So my pick this year will be # 6 Cowtown Cat and Scat Daddy...... G/L to all who make a wager on the Derby this year....:)

[nwest]

19 Dominican Rafael Bejarano Darrin Miller 20-1

Ol Rafael will come through this year, He is a good jockey

[Silent But Deadly]

Believe it or not, but I always have my best luck picking a horse that has the word " CAT " in it's name....So my pick this year will be # 6 Cowtown Cat and Scat Daddy...... G/L to all who make a wager on the Derby this year....:)

You bet like a girl. :D...I'm still looking at the past performances...and practicing for My Old Kentucky Home (original version).

[Wildcat]

I'm going with a couple long odds this time around.

Any Given Saturday
Storm in May
Street Sense

They are not in that order but that's the three I'm going with.

[cfd266]

I'll take Zanjero because I drew the #3 spot in a pool at work. We drew before we knew the post positions.

[kyhunter270]

I do not like the gate he is coming out of but I like Stormello.

[Silent But Deadly]

I think I have to with Street Sense. This horse has run long and in crowded fields. I just need another one for my exacta...

[GSP]

19 Dominican Rafael Bejarano Darrin Miller 20-1
13 Sam P. Ramon Dominguez Todd Pletcher 20-1

[BigDaddy]

12,2,8 tri box.

[MsgMills]

You bet like a girl. :D...I'm still looking at the past performances...and practicing for My Old Kentucky Home (original version).

It's not betting like a girl, The TVG stat checker has a probable winning combo of 80% win ratio when two horses have a common name in their names in a race...i.e. "cat" The TVG program is where I learned this info and I stick to it if it is an option.......:)

[schuyler olt]

I've been out on the backside every day this week except Thursday.

Of all the horses I've seen, Tiago is a very, very impressive physical specimen. With Mike Smith in the irons, I'll have to give him a play. Smith has been in the money each of the past three years and really knows how to ride this particular race, particularly coming off the pace. The big question is how much the kickback effects him..

I've been a big fan of Great Hunter all winter, and I will still play him despite having the 20 hole. That may not be a bad place to be in the slop.

Finally, Street Sense has been awesome at Churchill since the BC Juvenile last November. He is very fit and he is very, very professional. On top of that he has a great post position. So I can't overlook him.

So I'll be playing those three in the exactas and tris, and looking at one or two more on the walkover to throw into the mix.

[Silent But Deadly]

I've been out on the backside every day this week except Thursday.

Of all the horses I've seen, Tiago is a very, very impressive physical specimen. With Mike Smith in the irons, I'll have to give him a play. Smith has been in the money each of the past three years and really knows how to ride this particular race, particularly coming off the pace. The big question is how much the kickback effects him..

I've been a big fan of Great Hunter all winter, and I will still play him despite having the 20 hole. That may not be a bad place to be in the slop.

Finally, Street Sense has been awesome at Churchill since the BC Juvenile last November. He is very fit and he is very, very professional. On top of that he has a great post position. So I can't overlook him.

So I'll be playing those three in the exactas and tris, and looking at one or two more on the walkover to throw into the mix.

Mills, were you paying attention? That was how to bet like a man. Nowhere in there did he say, "because I like his name.":D

[MsgMills]

Sorry over my head on that one I guess......:D

[C.L.Button]

Sky, What did Scat Daddy look like ? What about Any Given Saturday ? And that horse Edgar Prado is riding ? Can't remember his name ?

[Duster]

I looked and looked at all the entrys and can't find one Rabbit in there anywhere. Last time I was at the races the rabbit won every race....Oh..yall talking about horses not dog's..sorry

Great Hunter sounds good to me as the winner. Need to see which one likes to run in the mud tho before plunking any cash down on any of them.

[AteUp]

I think I have to with Street Sense. This horse has run long and in crowded fields. I just need another one for my exacta...

Hope you got your second horse! Good job with your pick. I think MsgMill's horse came in last.:eek:;)

[Wildcat]

My trifecta didn't come in but I did good on a few win tickets on Street Sense at Paducah Downs.

[MsgMills]

Yep, 18th and dead last....Boy I can pickem for sure....... Bro-in-Law hit the exacta and trifecta. plus the double from yesterday's Oaks race...He won a total of about $ 1,000.00 from everything...

[Silent But Deadly]

Hope you got your second horse! Good job with your pick. I think MsgMill's horse came in last.:eek:;)

I nailed it. To be honest though, I boxed Street Sense with Hard Spun and Nobiz Like Shobiz. I couldn't make up my mind. I think Mills will probably stick to analyzing sports he knows such as...:confused:

[MsgMills]

Bass fishing baby...I've won my fair share of money doing it.....:D

[KYhunter79]

I bet Street Sense and Curlin. Nothing major just 5 across the board on both of them.

[schuyler olt]

Well, like I said, I couldn't throw Street Sense out, and I got on the Hard Spun bandwagon watching the walkover--he looked ready to go.

Mike Smith gave Tiago a heck of a ride, but just couldn't get the horse in gear. That may have as much to do with experience as anything else. Great Hunter was one of the few that got a bump and grind trip. I was amazed watching the replay how little of that there was.

The Preakness will be interesting, to say the least. I'm surprised at how many Derby enries are passing on that race. Nothing's been written on it, but I suspect some are looking at the Barbero experience and deciding that the breeding shed is more worthwhile than the purse.