For Those Who Shoot NITRO AMMO Nitro 3's or Nitro 3 1/2's

[turkeyhntr]

If one was to buy a new gun (11-87) would you rec. going with the 3 or 3 1/2 nitro...yes they are high but new gun...box of nitros, rhino, and no more endless hours patterning boxes of $10 shells...
Think nitros and 11-87 is my plan for next year...

[11-87shooter]

In my 11-87 i use an Undertaker Choke and shoot Winchester supreme 3" , #5's. i have never patterened it and don't plan to, the gun shoots fine and the birds are dropping.

[turkeyhntr]

My luck is the guns I am buying are shooting low left right or high and thats just that...I have three turkey guns right now that shoot great but all are scoped due to this...I would love to have a good gun smith to fix the problem but they are harder to find than a good straight shooting barrell...if all my shots were under 30 yards any choke and shell would do...

[Multidigits]

You don't need a good gunsmith. All you need is a little nerve and a forked tree. Bend the barrel until it's straight. If your good enough, you can do this in about 2 tries. Good luck.

[KYLimbHanger]

If one was to buy a new gun (11-87) would you rec. going with the 3 or 3 1/2 nitro...yes they are high but new gun...box of nitros, rhino, and no more endless hours patterning boxes of $10 shells...
Think nitros and 11-87 is my plan for next year...

The most unbelievable patterns can be obtained with a Rhino/Nitro combo. Nitro shells ARE expensive, but that 11-87 is expensive also compared to a $285 Mossy. First question you should ask is if you should go with the 11-87 or the 11-87 Super Magnum. Now Remington makes the 11-87 in a cheaper version like the 870 Express called the Sportsman. If you want to shoot 3.5's then obviously you want the SM, but you can always still shoot a 3 incher also. It was put to me like this: "A 3.5 inch shotgun is like a 4WD truck, you may not always need the 3.5 inch payload but it is always there if you ever want to use it." I jumped on the bandwagon this year as well. I retired a great little 870 Magnum that has killed many turkeys but I wanted something that would be more of a "do-all" shotgun. It was a toss up for me as well to get a 3 inch or 3.5. I bought a Benelli Super Black Eagle II and I am totally satisfied. Some Benellis are known to not cycle light 2 3/4 loads that well. Mine did fine, just followed the Benelli's recommendation of a proper break in period. I can shoot light field loads for dove, 3.5 inch Nitro's H51013 4x5x7 HeviShot for turkey, and 3 inch steel shot for ducks. Honestly, the Rhino/Nitro combo yields the results that everyone wants. Most people like to keep testing out the new turkey chokes and ammo on the market every year - which is expensive. With the Rhino/Nitro combo most every make shotgun will shoot as about as good as it gets.

Here is my review of my new SBEII.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=101933

[RLWEBB]

Rhino/Nitro is the best combo you can have. Some don't like it because of price. Some seem to be against it strongly for reasons I don't understand. If you want to see the most awesome patterns ever, get some 3.5" and a Rhino .660. You WILL be impressed!

[maxcam]

My luck is the guns I am buying are shooting low left right or high and thats just that...I have three turkey guns right now that shoot great but all are scoped due to this...I would love to have a good gun smith to fix the problem but they are harder to find than a good straight shooting barrell...if all my shots were under 30 yards any choke and shell would do...

I would suggest that you use the Tru Glo Pro Series Magnum Gobble Dots....This sight is totally adjustable for windage and elevation......

http://www.truglo.com/content/products/firearm/turkey/pro_series_magnum.asp

Wing Supply or Uncle Lee's should have these in stock......

You can go to Nitro for info on how the 11-87 will perform with a Jellyhead and their loads.....

They recommend using a .660 Rhino or Jellyhead choke tube and H51013 Nitro shells.......

Scroll down this page and look for Nitros advertisement......The shot counts they give are very conservative from my experiences....

http://www.nitrocompany.com/pattern.htm

Good luck!

[tf20]

One of my hunting buddies has a new 11-87 with a rhino 660 choke with the 31/2 inch nitro loads and is putting 330+ pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
It does cost a little more but someone else has figured out everthing you need no more trying this choke with that shell and so on.
One shot 6 dollars one dead turkey. How much do we spend on tags, calls, camo, decoys etc. you get the picture.
I have a 12 gauge and a 10 both with Rhino's and Nitro ammo and my sons 20 gauge 870 remington is also set up with them and it is putting around 200 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
I don't think you can go wrong with that combo.

[Pinwheel8]

I love the quote about the trucks. I see seveal people everyday that are driving $30,000 4X4 suv's that wouldn't take it off road for love nor money that gasp at spending 6 or 7 bucks for a turkey shell. I drive a S-10 and will spend 7 bucks for a dead turkey anyday. Granted, a $1.5 shell will kill a turkey, but so will a 20 guage with low brass 7's at 20 yards.

I lost a turkey last year that I shot low in the body at 25 yards. That was my last experience with 3" Winchesters. It was not the gun or shells fault, it was mine. I, unlike some people in here, get more than a little tore up at the sight of a bird coming in and may not pay attention to the little things during the moment of truth. So , I want the most forgiving shell I can get and I promise you, if I had shot that same bird with my 935, rhino choke and nitro shells that I am shooting now, that bird would have had a hole you could stick your fist through.

[turkeyhntr]

I have a 935, SBE II, and 870...the 935 could be the gun I set up with the nitro rhino combo...I would like to set up SBEII but it all ready has a long enough barrell would had to add length to it...I will do the rhino nitro combo sometime before next year

[fullstrut1]

One of my hunting buddies has a new 11-87 with a rhino 660 choke with the 31/2 inch nitro loads and is putting 330+ pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
It does cost a little more but someone else has figured out everthing you need no more trying this choke with that shell and so on.
One shot 6 dollars one dead turkey. How much do we spend on tags, calls, camo, decoys etc. you get the picture.
I have a 12 gauge and a 10 both with Rhino's and Nitro ammo and my sons 20 gauge 870 remington is also set up with them and it is putting around 200 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
I don't think you can go wrong with that combo.

What he said!

[Multidigits]

I'm not shooting rhinos or nitros. Just plain old hevishot 3.5" #5. Sure hope I have a chance to kill one in spite of being under gunned???? :rolleyes:

[turkeyhntr]

Look I know this nitro thing is an issue that makes turkey hunters fight...but look..I have been blessed to kill birds in several states private and public and its like this...I just want to buy a gun a choke a shell and know I will be 100% happy with it....I can not say that I can go buy another companys shell and choke combo and it will be the match...I bet the guns I have now shoot 95% better than the average I just want the best...I want the bird to come in gobbling but you know I could ride around in the truck and shoot one out the window but I am not going to...I do not want to upset anyone about nitros...I just want to shoot the best I can...shells and chokes are like farms we hunt on and calls we use...some are better than others and some are elite...I like havine elite stuff..good luck to everyone this weekend

[maxcam]

I'm not shooting rhinos or nitros. Just plain old hevishot 3.5" #5. Sure hope I have a chance to kill one in spite of being under gunned???? :rolleyes:

Well look at it this way......You can always go out in the yard and work on your gun barrel if you dont!

[maxcam]

Look I know this nitro thing is an issue that makes turkey hunters fight...but look..I have been blessed to kill birds in several states private and public and its like this...I just want to buy a gun a choke a shell and know I will be 100% happy with it....I can not say that I can go buy another companys shell and choke combo and it will be the match...I bet the guns I have now shoot 95% better than the average I just want the best...I want the bird to come in gobbling but you know I could ride around in the truck and shoot one out the window but I am not going to...I do not want to upset anyone about nitros...I just want to shoot the best I can...shells and chokes are like farms we hunt on and calls we use...some are better than others and some are elite...I like havine elite stuff..good luck to everyone this weekend

Im like you turkeyhntr......I work in order to enjoy my time in the woods......Although I have harvested my fair share in my life, I still want one more......So when I set up a bow rifle or shotgun I always buy what I think will perform the best for me.......I use to have a Remmington 870 SP that I killed a ton of birds with, but I watched these SBE's and 935's with a 3.5 inch shell and I decided I wanted a 3.5 inch shell.......So I started looking at them.......I loved the SBE and the way it felt and had one in my hands when I saw the Extrema. It was about 350 dollars cheaper at the time so I bought it.....NO ONE knew anything about set ups for the Extrema.....So I googled turkey loads one night and thats when I came across Nitro.....When I read up what they said their loads would do in my gun I didnt believe them......When I got ahold of them on the phone they said that they would garantee it......I was sold.......So now I tell folks about them whenever I get a chance......Ill keep shooting them until something better comes along........Goodluck!

[Multidigits]

Yeah, I can work on a barrel in the back yard.....here's my pattern testing for the year. Reinstalled my scope and checked it with this shot at 25 yards

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/conelydt/SD530228.jpg

Look good, so I moved it back to 45 and fired for effect -- 67 hits inside the circle a few more that would have been in the body. With hevi, those will break leg and wing bones.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/conelydt/SD530229.jpg

Got to check the sights on the crossbow, see ya. I like having elite stuff to.

[maxcam]

Tom,

Thats a decent pattern and will definately do the job.....Glad you got your barrel straightened out.........Now imagine there being a whole at 25 yards about the size of a baseball and at 40 about 310-320 pieces of hevi shot and you will get the picture of my patterns......At 65 steps it puts about 60 shot in a 10 inch circle.......

[Multidigits]

Tom,

Thats a decent pattern and will definately do the job.....Glad you got your barrel straightened out.........Now imagine there being a whole at 25 yards about the size of a baseball and at 40 about 310-320 pieces of hevi shot and you will get the picture of my patterns......At 65 steps it puts about 60 shot in a 10 inch circle.......


I wouldn't want a pattern that small at 40....I'm killing turkeys notr blowing holes through a cinder block wall. Plus, I haven't spent all my money on expensive bullets when a standard load does just fine. Thanks for your help.

[shaman]

See, the way it is with me, I figure as long as I keep it on the cheap side, those old turkeys can't really hurt my feelings. If I go out there on Opening day and I hear all those turkeys laughing at me, I can stand up and yell at them "Oh, yeah! Go ahead and laugh. All I've got here is a cheap gun and a few cheap calls, but if you don't watch yerselves, I'll blow y'all stinking heads off!" That always shuts them up, at least for a little while.

Turkeys just can't stand the thought of being shot with 25-cent loads by a man wearing old, worn out camo. They find it demeaning, and they do everything they can to avoid it. I know, I've watched them for years and made a study of it. Their only way to foil you, when you're shooting cheap loads is to come in on you in strange ways and screw with your head, and hope you blow the shot. What those $6 loads do is get the turkeys to stand out at 75 yards and dare you to try a shot. They think it's cool, and they goad those 2-year olds into doing it to prove they're worthy gobblers.

If I was to get all duded up in a set of brand new camo, and get me a fancy imported shotgun and shoot fancy shot and pay some guy a lot of money to go sit in his field, when his turkeys came around to laugh at me, I'd really have nothing else to do but join in and laugh right along with them.

Y'all mark my words: those turkeys catch you out in the woods all fancied up and shooting shells costing $6 apiece, they'll be laughing louder. You listen. You'll hear them.