Fishing courtesy

[quackrstackr]

I am reminded yearly while fishing the waters of Ky and Barkley lakes just how rude and obnoxious some people are.

We were sitting stationary approx. 25 yards off of a point yesterday throwing jigs up to the shoreline, actively catching fish and had been there probably 15 or 20 minutes. A boat came down the bank and actually fished the same point between us and the shoreline, completely cutting us off. Bare in mind, we were close enough that we could throw well up onto the bank if we wanted to. We had to actually stop fishing or hook these guys and yank them out of the boat.

Tha' Hat asked the guy if they were about to run out of lake to fish when they first started pulling in front of us. He was answered with "what?" and a look that would curdle milk, as if we were the ones intruding. :rolleyes:

It usually happens to me 2 or 3 times a year.

May people like that spring a leak in their boat and have it sink 3 miles from the nearest ramp.

and also... if you see someone catching fish... give them the courtesy of a job well done and don't make a beeline to them so that you can cast to the exact same patch of water from the side. There is enough water out there for everyone and I gaurantee you that the water directly in front of that boat is not the only place on the entire lake that the fish are biting.

[sirgiovanni]

It is the new way of things it seems. I can remember a time when people waved, slowed down as they passed, and then PASSED. No more unfortunately, especially with tournament fishermen. Not all of them, but definately some of them.

[kybowhunter64]

I would have hooked him and thrown him out of the boat

[WBBP]

The problem is that it is only getting worse. Stuff like this rarely happened 30 years ago, now it is a regular occurence. I think the next time this happens to me, and I see them going between me and the bank that I will engage the trolling motor and move the boat toward the bank in a blocking motion. I won't say a word until they do.

A certain minority that hunt and fish have a very low sportsman IQ and they aren't gonna stop until somebody stops them.

It is a little differnt story if I am 150' off the bank in 80' of water casting for rockfish in 50' of water and a bass fisherman goes between me and the bank. Last year on Cumberland, a bass fisherman approached our boat and asked me which way I wanted him to go....behind or in front of me? That is the way everyone should be.

[tistis]

Try shoot some trap over there heads next time

[aceoky]

The same type people who cut you off in traffic, cut in lines, and "dare" anyone to say anything, etc.etc.etc. IOW, NO respect for their fellow man.....:eek:

[Bray]

The same type people who cut you off in traffic, cut in lines, and "dare" anyone to say anything, etc.etc.etc. IOW, NO respect for their fellow man.....:eek:

My thoughts exactly.

[Rat]

Those people really fire me up.
Had that happen several times in the past. The worst case of this was last year fishing on a park lake in Ohio in a row boat for a midnight fish. My cousin and I were rowing in to the dock about 200 feet off shore with a storm coming in when the paddle to one of the plastic oars came unbolted from the shaft and went floating behind us. It was drifting away pretty quickly, but "luckily" another boat was following behind us so we flagged their attention, told them what happened, and shined our light on the paddle. They had a trolling motor so I figured it would be easy for them to move 10 feet to the left to pick it up. The one man in the front yelled back "What oar, I don't see anything", as the other man kept the motor running toward shore. We shouted back for them to turn left, but the gave either flicked us off or waved us off. They passed us about 20 feet to our right and would not look at us. We slowly made our way to the paddle and as we were fixing the oar noticed that they were still unloading their boat at the dock. My cousin yelled out he was going to kick some people's tail and we started rowing in quickly. Those two guys quickly grabbed everything up and jogged to their truck. We never saw them again.
Those are the type of people that would witness a violent crime in the act and not try to help out. I kept hoping we would see their truck on the side of the highway in broken down. Actually I wished much worse things, but I can't say them here.:mad:

[mcdenney]

Fishing Courtesy??? Not much of it these days. All I can tell you is to tie on a DD22 and whatever you can get out of the boat and into yours you get to keep. :D I have on occassion had guys do me that way a couple times but they usually don't do it again, if you know what I mean. I have been known to put a few boats into the rocks with huge wakes at times also. ;) I am sure I will get blasted on this response but there is no sense in that kind of behavior...PERIOD!!!! While my distance from others is substantially greater than this but if a guys gets so close I can reach him with a cast then he is in trouble.

There are some real idiots on the water these days.

[notimlmit]

This is exactly one of the reasons I'm selling my boat. I'm so sick of the rudeness of others that I hardly ever go out on a boat again. I do walk the banks but also carry a pistol which I leave very visible, funny how much people's attitudes change when they notice this.

[GSP]

We were sitting stationary approx. 25 yards off of a point yesterday throwing jigs up to the shoreline, actively catching fish and had been there probably 15 or 20 minutes. A boat came down the bank and actually fished the same point between us and the shoreline, completely cutting us off. Bare in mind, we were close enough that we could throw well up onto the bank if we wanted to. We had to actually stop fishing or hook these guys and yank them out of the boat.

Keep a catfish rod loaded up with a 3 oz chunk of lead.;) :eek:

[quackrstackr]

You have no idea how badly I was wishing I had something besides a spinning rod and crappie jig in my hand.

I buzzed one that would have caught the guy squarely in the back of the head but stopped it at the last second. We cast a few times within inches of their boat trying to get our point across and they completely ignored us.

I thought about trying to jerk the Dr. Pepper can he had sitting beside him out of the boat. :D

[Xi Bowhunter]

Quack, I saw this behavior also this weekend. It was crazy on barkley saturday. We actually met a boat fishing around a point, and I made sure to swing around the guy far enough to let him continue fishing. He gave us a courtesy "nod" and asked us if we had any luck. I said "not yet" and he asked if I tried a jerkbait because that is what he caught a few fish on earlier. That is the way fisherman should treat each other.

[killinmammals]

I really sets me on fire too, but our we really helping solving problem by running them into the rocks. Yeah I'd love to run them in the rocks but I'm not going to lower myself to the way they are. If one guy does this then another retaliates it just goes back and forth and the other guy never learns anyway. People will never learn courtesy, they will continue to be jerks until somebody runs in their spot, then it changes. Just make some noise with your radio or take a swim, that will make them leave. I've caught some good fish on a air up raft like that and some idiots got mad and left!:D

[KYhunter79]

A little common courtesy and respect goes along way. Does anyone ever go to Paylakes? Sometimes me and a couple buddies will hit a paylake my uncle owns. You start catching fish and people will actually try and sit in your lap. It's rediculous. You can be sitting 50 feet from anyone and you starting catching a few fish and you will have a couple people in your elbow room on both sides with in minutes. And everyone else that can cast from where they are sitting will crowd your bobber. A couple times I counted over a dozen bobbers in no bigger than a 5X5 square. It came reaaaaaal close to fighting after getting my line crossed so bad I had to cut and reset everything. What idiots.

[Xi Bowhunter]

Try fishing newburgh lock and dam when the sauger are running. You start catching fish and before you know it, 4 or 5 guys are shoulder to shoulder next to you.

[Multidigits]

You should have told him your a super mod and would boot him if he doesn't give you some room!

[wademup]

It is the new way of things it seems. I can remember a time when people waved, slowed down as they passed, and then PASSED. No more unfortunately, especially with tournament fishermen. Not all of them, but definately some of them.


Amen,hate to make someone mad but I wound up buying an 1860 Johnboat so the "bass runners" wouldn't turn me over!! Amazing you get a 200 hp motor and suddenly the Canal is a drag strip.I wonder if some guys just drive around in the boats to look cool or if they actually fish. If you have a bass boat please slow down and avoid us lowly johnboat guys!!!

Wademup

[naturalelite]

Oh heck boys rubbin is fishing now a days.. I don't even get excited any more unless they are trying to take fish out of the livewell or steal baits out of the box. Last night my dad and I were striper fishing and apparently someone thought we knew what we were doing because two boats shut down within 100 yards of us. So we had a FRONT AND A BACK ALL NIGHT. None of us caught any fish:mad:

By the way wademup GET OUT OF THE WAY SLOW POKE!!!!!!
We gots places to go and people to see :)

[quackrstackr]

You should have told him your a super mod and would boot him if he doesn't give you some room!

Nah, I just told 'em my name was TC and they cleared right out after shooting at us a half dozen times and complaining about spending a wad of cash on a "worthless piece of land".... or something to that effect.

[pentail]

I tell you what pisses me off...:mad: :mad: :mad: When you are duck hunting (especially early wood duck season) with a decoy spread set out and here comes a fisherman right through the middle of em. me and shotgungm walked in to a good woodduck bay last year and set up at the very end where the water was shallow. had a boat nose into our spread... like there wasn't the entire lake they could fish. I announced loudly, "I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT IF A DUCK COMES IN I AM SHOOTING ANYWAY"! Not a word from the boat that was now 15 or so feet from us, they just turned the trolling motor and fished back up the other side.

one time at KY lake, we had a bass fisherman come between the bank and our decoy spread in 3 feet of water in december... like he was catching anything on that big white spinnerbait that time of year right on the bank. after about ten cast to the bank and two decoys moved by his boat, he cast that big shiny bait straight out in front of his boat, parallel to the bank. it was more than my buddy could stand, when that bait arced through the air, he silently stood and BLAM, blew it right out of the air with a 3 inch number 4! guy just reeled in his line, laid down his rod and fired up the big motor. went right through the middle of our spread and somehow did not wrap a line around his prop.:(

[quackrstackr]

I've had that happen 4 or 5 times myself.

What makes people think that a fresh set of duck decoys set in 4 feet of water in the middle of January makes good structure for fish is beyond me.....

[870]

Some of us was taught do unto others as you would have others do unto you. We had parents that cared & taught us right from wrong. I think we're see the results of a generation that had 1 parent in the home & did the best she could to provide a living for the kids. A mother can't be a father & mother, & now alot of these kids have now grown up into adults still acting like children. They've had it their way all their life! They feel like everybody owes them something. That's why I hate to go to Wal-Mart, all the spoiled kids screaming to get their way.
I think the best think to do is just say HEY, CAN"T YOU SEE I'M FISHING THIS POINT & contuine to fish. If they get hooked it's their fault.
Just be prepared for their kicking & screaming:D

[quackrstackr]

Actually, this guy was probably late 50's, early 60's so that excuse won't fly for him.

I think our laugh from Tha' Hat asking him if he was "running out of lake to fish" got under his skin a bit. :D

[Multidigits]

Nah, I just told 'em my name was TC and they cleared right out after shooting at us a half dozen times and complaining about spending a wad of cash on a "worthless piece of land".... or something to that effect.


Which tract of land would that be.....? I'll have to remember not to invite you to hunt that miserable tract the next time you loose yours.

[westkybanded]

Nah, I just told 'em my name was TC and they cleared right out after shooting at us a half dozen times and complaining about spending a wad of cash on a "worthless piece of land".... or something to that effect.

Dat's funny rite der...

Yep...

[wademup]

By the way wademup GET OUT OF THE WAY SLOW POKE!!!!!!
We gots places to go and people to see :)[/quote]

My boat says Roughneck on the side,ya'll fiberglass warriors dont wanna mess with no roughneck!!!!:):):):)

[naturalelite]

My boat says Roughneck on the side,ya'll fiberglass warriors dont wanna mess with no roughneck!!!!:):):):)

Heck no I don't want any piece of them Jonboat boys they all carry guns and and have gasoline and a shovel in the pick up truck.:)

[wademup]

Heck no I don't want any piece of them Jonboat boys they all carry guns and and have gasoline and a shovel in the pick up truck.:)


Hey ,I resemble that remark!! But you left out the cast net holder/shad bucket combo!!

Wademup

[Foam Steak]

.... he cast that big shiny bait straight out in front of his boat, parallel to the bank. it was more than my buddy could stand, when that bait arced through the air, he silently stood and BLAM, blew it right out of the air with a 3 inch number 4! ....

NOW THAT IS FUNNY! I can't stop laughing....

This is going to sound like a lecture so I appologise in advance. Negative emotions are more powerful than positive emotions and a single bad experience has the ability to wipe out a whole lot of good experiences. For example. You go to the park with your family have a great day fishing, eating and enjoying the sun and when you come back to you truck you find someone backed into it and cracked your tail light then took off without leaving a note. Suddenly everything changes. You went from having a great day to having a crappy day even though 97% of the day was spectacular. So when some moron finds it necessary to be inconciderate deal with it and move on. Don't sell your fishing boat and quit fishing forever. Don't allow one idiot to ruin your entire day off. Don't forget 97% of the day was actually really fun. Not everyone can be like Pentail and take what would have otherwise been a bad experience and turn it into a funny story that will be remembered and retold for the rest of his life! Next time people crowd you while wade fishing or fishing from the bank try talking or yelling to yourself and acting crazy. Biting the head off of a fish works well. Petting the fish like it is your pet just before bashing its brains out on a rock works pretty good. You should be able to get yourself a good 20 feet of casting room that way.:)

Sorry, I will get off my soap box. Flame me if you must, I can take it.

[Manzanita]

And then there are the amateur captains with their 48 foot cruisers that go roaring by about 50 feet away from you with the throttle to the wood throwing out a tidal wave behind them, totally oblivious or unconcerned.

That used to aggravate me worse than anything. When we sold our fish/ski and bought a 30' cruiser I was usually very careful when passing smaller boats, mainly because of my past experience having to deal with it myself. Of course, there were the guys that insisted on fishing in the navigation lane... not a whole lot of pity there.

'course, I got rid of that "hole in the water that I threw money in" several years ago. My next boat will probably be a canoe.

[grousebuster]

Fishing Courtesy:( A few years ago I took a friend to Rock Creek to catch a few trout. He would cut me off and run ahead of me to catch trout in the next hole. He wouldn't take the time to fish a hole of water if he saw someone going around him on the bank to get to the next hole. Needless to say, he hasn't made the trip back to McCreary Co. in a few years.

[Tha' Hat]

That WKYBanded guy is a real prick about jumping ahead of you in a creek or around a pond. He'll sit there and watch you get settled into a hole and make a cast, then he'll run about 30 yards ahead of you and start fishing. And he tangles all your tackle if you let him borrow anything.

All that after taking him to my top-secret spot spot. ;) :D

[BigDaddy]

Go to a paylake!! You will loose your temper in a hurry there...

I have to take my Pop's to the paylake cause he isn't able to get in a boat 9 (stroke). You talk about people fishing on top of you! You catch a fish and there will be 6 guys trying like heck to throw over on you. Many times I find myself playing defense at these paylakes. Just trying to keep people out of my holes..instead of fishing.

[ssgray]

Had almost the same thing happen last year on Barkley, but my visitor was on a jet ski pulling two small children on a inter tube. I had to quickly move away from the bank to give her enough to get by, at full throttle. As I have often heard "YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID"....

[naturalelite]

I feel sorry for you west kentucky boys. I am going to take the whole famn damily over there in june. We are taking bass boat, pontoon, and two wave runners. I am running circles around ever person I see fishing. I am for sure going to see if I find quacker and mepperson. :D

[westkybanded]

That WKYBanded guy is a real prick about jumping ahead of you in a creek or around a pond. He'll sit there and watch you get settled into a hole and make a cast, then he'll run about 30 yards ahead of you and start fishing. And he tangles all your tackle if you let him borrow anything.

All that after taking him to my top-secret spot spot. ;) :D

Yea... The same rod that your wife had decided to attach the line to the celing fan for a week to see how twisted she could possibly get the line. Like trying to cast a hood spring!

Thanks for the trip tho! I will never forget it! Not many people would show you spotted bass heavan. It is of course TOP SECRET!!!


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[quackrstackr]

There's a heller narrow but shallow stump flat right there that has been the end of many a bass boat hull and lower unit.

I have heard multiple instances of people hitting a stump at 60+ mph right there.

[westkybanded]

I don't think I've ever fished there... I posted a photo of Tha' Hat's "Super Secret Spot Spot" for about 30 seconds before I realized how easy it was to zoom out to get directions:D

[quackrstackr]

I figured as much.

I've thrown a million casts in that area you have linked now and never caught a single spot that I can remember.

:D

[Tha' Hat]

You're just not holding your mouth right. I usually hang a cane pole with a piece of red cloth and a bluegill hook out the window as I'm driving by and pull in at least one keeper.

[bigpuddin43]

I am reminded yearly while fishing the waters of Ky and Barkley lakes just how rude and obnoxious some people are.

We were sitting stationary approx. 25 yards off of a point yesterday throwing jigs up to the shoreline, actively catching fish and had been there probably 15 or 20 minutes. A boat came down the bank and actually fished the same point between us and the shoreline, completely cutting us off. Bare in mind, we were close enough that we could throw well up onto the bank if we wanted to. We had to actually stop fishing or hook these guys and yank them out of the boat.

Tha' Hat asked the guy if they were about to run out of lake to fish when they first started pulling in front of us. He was answered with "what?" and a look that would curdle milk, as if we were the ones intruding. :rolleyes:

It usually happens to me 2 or 3 times a year.

May people like that spring a leak in their boat and have it sink 3 miles from the nearest ramp.

and also... if you see someone catching fish... give them the courtesy of a job well done and don't make a beeline to them so that you can cast to the exact same patch of water from the side. There is enough water out there for everyone and I gaurantee you that the water directly in front of that boat is not the only place on the entire lake that the fish are biting.


Yeah i use to fish kentucky for crappie from the bank when i went to school down at murray!! i use to take three rods one to throw out as far as i could with a big orange catfish bobber on it so everyone could see it then two to fish minnows or jigs under!! i would be catching fish 20 feet off the bank but because of my "Stay away pole" people would have to go out a good 30 or 40 yards from the bank to get around it!! if anyone didnt see it and started running over the line i would reel it in and cast it right over top their boat to let them know where i was fishin at!!!! pretty bad when the guys in boats gotta move in on us bank walkers spots we dont have a lot of access to good spots and they move in on the few we got!!

[TedB]

GSP has the right idea. I keep a big spinning rod with a two ounce lead spoon rigged in the boat. Anytime anybody starts getting too close I tell my 8 year old to get the white pole and start chucking it out. Last year we were slow trolling for hybrids in the no-wake zone of a very small lake. This guy in what was practically a cigar boat blasted by us about 3 times at about 40 feet within 30 minutes. One time he liked about 10 feet from getting his head cut off with 30 lb braid line. The next time he came by the stars lined up and he lost a good sized chunk of paint that was roughly the size of a 2 oz spoon. I laughed until I cried, whole time I waved and mouthed how sorry I was.

Now I would never tell him to do anything like that on purpose on the boat but it sure does keep them away from you.

It works even better at pay lakes, if we start to get crowded I just whisper for him to clear a path and he'll cast over every line on one side within 30 feet. After some nice guy that moved from the other side of the lake to sit 3 feet from me when he saw me catch a flathead spends ten minutes untangling his line, he'll go back to his side of the lake. If they don't get the hint I tell my boy to quit tangling people's lines and go on the other side. When the two drunk guys listening to loud music on that side have to cut their line five times because my kid tangled them up so bad I tell them how sorry I am and hand him a bluegill pole. Course they don't know he can hit a five gallon bucket at 40 yards. Don't guess they need to either.

I know some of you guys like the bass tournaments but don't you think they just encourage behavior like this? You don't see alot of guys in 16 foot john boats blowing past people doin sixty. That last tournament where the guy blew by at 20 feet and got DQ'd is a good example. That sore on the hind end of fishermen everywhere just couldn't understand why he'd gotten DQ'd and whined and cried about it for ten minutes on TV, he's so ate up he's probably still whining about it. He said something to the effect of, that's just how I do things, it don't matter if everybody else thinks it's dangerous. You think? If you'd blown by me that close you'd better hope you weren't still loading up when I pulled up to the ramp.

I really wish fish and wildlife would start writing reckless driving tickets on the lakes, I think it would stop a bunch of that bull. When the guy started using the no wake zone for a ski route last summer the Game Warden had checked my livewell not five minutes before.
Anyway, if you guys can think of a better way to put a stop to stupid people I'm all for it, until then I'll just keep that big old spinnin rod rigged up. Later. Ted

[Amberjack]

In Louisiana I think everybody has the understanding that you will get shot at if you try doing that! SO we rarely see this problem;)

[JP]

Had the same thing happen to us on KY a few years back.--we had 2 boats, both anchored. Some guy watched us catch a few and then went between us and the bank...He actually nearly ran over one of our bobbers :eek: He got a mean cussin....and finally left with quite a wake. its unreal out there.

[Josh7.62x54]

I feel that I need to address something. When you slow down for someone fishing, unless you idle, you actually throw out one heck of a wave. It seems like you do best either blowing by them (if they're far enough away) at 60, or idiling past them.