best modern ML projectile?

[oldforestor]

Ive shot the powerbelt this season, but it doesnt seem to group as tight as a plain old sabot. Could it be that the powerbelt doesnt catch the lands and grooves as well?

[Multidigits]

Probably. I bought the Sav. M10 II and it shoots great. But anything that loads easy, doesn't group good. The sabot has to fit tight. Also, the powerbelt doesn't have much plastic there. With heavy loads, it might not hold up. Seems that the best sabots are those made by MMP. They hold together with hot, fast loads better than anything else. Most people seem to still use the XTP bullets in either 250 or 300 gr.

[raktrakr]

well. i cant get the powerbelts to group well for me either,BUT, the first shot is always within 2 inches of the bullseye @ 100 yrds. ill just have to make the first one count. with all the bullets ive tried the only one that groups well for me is the hornady sabot w/XTP bullet,200gr.


"If you can learn to be an effective squirrel hunter, you can be a good hunter, period." Herold Knight

[flathead]

i use powerbelts the 295 ballistic tip and love them at 200yds my groups are 1.5 while shoot 150gr of 777 but with pryodex i couldn't get them to group at all.you have to try different powder charge. every one that i have talked to that have had good results shoot 130
to 150 mag charges.
flathead

[mike brewer]

my step dad use's power belt's and he said he get's better group's with the hollow point's than the aero tip's. i got some hollow power belt's i am gonna use some of them at the range this weekend.i will post result soon as i get home.[8D]

mike b.b.

[mike brewer]

i also have some T.C. mag express sabot's i am gonna try. 240 grain XTP copper jacket hollow point bullet's. thepower belt's are 295 grain hollow point copper clad.i am useing T.C. black diomond 50 cal.<font color="red"></font id="red">

mike b.b.

[Big58cal]

I've tried the Powerbelts and I wouldn't give you a plug nickel for them. I killed a couple of deer with them the year that I tried them, but they wouldn't pattern that well, and the results were VERY less than desirable! Since that time, I've switched to the Barnes XPander bullets. They mushroom to twice their original diameter and retain 100% of their weight. I've gotten 5 deer with them, and am greatly pleased with with results! I'm shooting a Knight MK-85 in .54 cal with 100 grains of FFG black powder. The bullets are 325 grain I believe. I hit a deer last year in the neck right below the chin at about 70 yds. It blew a hole almost the size of a Coke can out the back side, with blood, hair, and bone dripping from the trees!!!!!!

[oldforestor]

Ive killed two deer with powerbelts, but neither was thru and thru.
Odd.

They are where you find 'em

[jmabrey]

If you go to a lot of other forums you'll hear the same thing about Powerbelts. I would recommend TC's Shockwaves, made by Hornady, also Hornady's SST-at Midsouth shooting supply http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/--same bullet. And also Precision Rifles QT and Dead center http://www.prbullet.com/. All very good bullets.

John B. Mabrey

[jmabrey]

i messed up the link, sorry http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/

John B. Mabrey

[oldsnow]

In the past 20 some years I have shot just about every thing out of my guns. I keep coming back to Hornady 45cal. xtp mags. rapped in a Hornady 50cal. mag. sabot,with two 50gr. Pyrodex pellits and a
Remington 209-4 primer to get the job done. 1/12" groups at 100 yds. out of my Omega and Emcore. In the past two years I have killed 6 deer, from 20 to 160 yds. and never recovered one bullet. All of these deer were retreaved.

[oldforestor]

out of a disc extreme, here are my final results @ 100 yards.
hornady xtp 325,3 inch group
powerbelt 295, 12 inch group
hornaby 410 buffalo, 5 inch group.

Sometimes it's the arrow...
Sometimes it's the Indian...

[aceoky]

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<br />out of a disc extreme, here are my final results @ 100 yards.
hornady xtp 325,3 inch group
powerbelt 295, 12 inch group
hornaby 410 buffalo, 5 inch group.

Sometimes it's the arrow...
Sometimes it's the Indian...
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Hmmm not real impressive! I'd work on the hornady(change powder charge and maybe even primers....) although a 3" group @ 100 yards is OK for deer if it's 3" from a rest it will probably at least double without one, not the best situation. I think that you should be able to get moa(1"@100 yards) with a little more "tweaking" or at least close the Disc rifles have a pretty good rep on being accurate.

Another question: are you cleaning between EVERY shot? A ML is shot clean the first time, (usually) so it's important when checking for accuracy to get them as clean as you can between shots, then when "the moment of truth comes" you'll know what to expect from your clean barrel/bullet/powder combo. I hope this is of some help, it's a bit harder to help when one is not there to see all of the variables etc.
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[oldforestor]

Depends on what you consider accuracy. 3 shots grouped inside of 3 inches is about the circle of a coke can. that's rested across the gate of my truck. That's about 1/10th of the vital area of a deer. The claims on here of 3/4" 200 yard groups with a muzzleloader are laughable. That's coverage of a nickel? Hardy har har! The number of people with the knowhow and skill to do that is few and far between. That's a long damn way. Ive been fooling with these things for 15 years and Im pretty happy with a "hunting rest" 3 inch group. 'Course I dont take 200 yarders. And I dont have a vise in any of my stands, so why would I want to overestimate my skills by using one to sight in? I still dont understand how the powerbelt can spin much if it depends on the base for contact with the lands and grooves while the base is attached with a little round button that has absolutely no grip on the bullet? But thanks for your input.

Sometimes it's the arrow...
Sometimes it's the Indian...