bad luck with rem. ammo

[Jblack]

hey all i was just wonderin if anyone else has had bad luck with remington ammo cuz last year my daughter shot 4 different deer with rem. ammo and not one bullet went through 1 dressed buck 185 lbs. at 125 yds. and 3 does at less than 40 yds. now the buck i can understand but the does at less than 40 yds. from a .270 it just doesn't sound right and we lost 2 of the 3 does til the next day and the one we found immediately ran about 100yds. and while it was runnin another kid shot at it but had to have missed cuz the bullet hole was on the wrong side for him to have hit it i checked it out good so he claimed the deer and i told my daughter to forget about it cuz during the youth hunt which was the weekend before she killed a 9-point buck it was the one that dressed 185 and it was probably his first and i didnt want to bust his bubble cuz surely when his dad skinned it he saw that the bullet hole was on the wrong side he had to know but thats huntin any way just checkin to see if anyone else has had any problems with remington ammo

just gotta have patience

[Larry Carter]

Must be bullet selection.Some of the lighter grain loads are varmint bullets and won't give much penetration. Remington Core Lokt's have been around a long time with few detractors. On the other hand a varmint load at 40 yards in the chest should give dramatic kills.

[Valley Station]

Most lighter grain bullets shot thru the shoalders, will not exit.
Want it to exit, shoot thru the rib cage.
Never heard of anything wrong with Remington ammo.
Had the recovered bullets mushroomed? If so, nothing wrong.[:)]

[kyhuntsman]

I've never hade any problems with Remington Core Lock and that is all I shoot. I've used a 25.06 and 30.06 and have had success at 40 yards on up to 110 yards.

Perhaps you need to chose a different weight bullet. You may be using too light of a bullet. Who knows???

Matt

[RDL270]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if you shoot animal and the bullet doesn't exit, isn't all the energy expended in the animal? Isn't the reason ballistic tip ammo was intended for? Isn't that why bullets mushroom to put as much shock as you can? Seems to me pass throughs are not typically what you are wanting. Arrows yes, bullets no...... I've had no issues with Remington ammo, if you put it where its intended.

[Larry Carter]

RDL I think you're right. If the bullet penetrates just to the hide on the far side all the energy was transferred to the animal. We could make this complicated [varmint bulet penetrates 2" =complete transfer of energy]but most any major brand ammo in DEER weight per caliber will do a good job.

[Jblack]

weight was 140 grains and she was taught to shoot behind the shoulder i personally watched the deers ribcage cave in on the doe the lil boy in ballard claimed we bought 2 different kinds of rem. ammo, extended range boattail, and softpoints. and what i like is a great big exit hole everytime i get one they dont go far at all

just gotta have patience

[broadside]

I shoot Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertips, have had no problems.

If she wasn't mad about that, she'd be mad about something else.Let's go huntin.

[joekat46]

Since I talked with you on the phone I've been to our local Walmart. Remington was about all they carried. I remember some post this last spring (different site) where a few guys thought the turkey loads from Walmart weren't as good as ones they had bought elsewhere. Where did those Remington shells come from?

[Jblack]

THE LOCAL WAL-MART IS WHERE THEY CAME FROM

just gotta have patience

[Boss Gobbler]

I only shoot winchester ammo in all my guns for all animals, never had a problem. I never used remington but had a lot of trouble with federal shells, misfires and bad groups.

[Jblack]

i switched to winchester silver tips last year just before gun season and we have had no problems at all. yesterday evening my daughter took a doe at 175 yds. with the winchester ammo doe went down in 50 yds. i hate to say it but my daughter is a better shot than most adults i know but that is a good thing. two yrs. ago she took her first deer at 185 yds. last yr. she took a big 9-pointer at 125 yds. and it was in alot of underbrush during the statewide youth hunt, and so far this year she has taken a doe at 175yds.

just gotta have patience

[polcat]

i have killed over 20 deer with a 270,i use only 130 grain bullets and i have never had one run out of site and most fell in there tracks..i switched to a 7mm rem mag about 12 years ago and back to a 270 last fall..in the 7mm rem mag i found 139 grain sst hornady heavey mags worked very well on deer...in my 270 last year i tried 130 grain winchester power point plus @3150 fps,yesterday i got a box of hornady light mag ammo for my 270 130 grain sst @3215 fps..several of the deer a killed with the 130 grain bullets never left an exit hole ,but thet were laying there after the shot,i shot 1 with the 7mm rem mag with a 140 grain remington core loc at 20 yards or so that did not exit....but i have never had a problem with fnding them after the shot..

[Valley Station]

A 22 Hornet or a 375 H&H will both kill a deer when bullit put thru the vitals.

[Basswipe]

RDL is correct. A bullet that doesn't pass through dumps more energy into the target than one that does pass through. Less pass through is good.
Also a bullet will actually have deeper penetration at 100 yds than it will at 40. At 40 yds the bullet is going so fast that it burns up more energy on expansion. Expansion will be greater at 40 yds than at 100. Less expansion at 100 yards means that the bullet will have more penetration.

[Jukelemon]

Basswipe, it would be interesting to find out at what point it switches i.e. at what velocity/energy figure does maximum penetration occur. Because in theory, even though the bullet will expand less at longer distances, the velocity/energy has dropped significantly which would affect penetration. I have never seen any ballistic figures that would speak to that. I know this is being very dull (I am bored at the monent) but it would surely answer the beginning post. What do you think?

Just, my .02, I only shoot Remington's ammo and 1) have never had an issue with clean kills and 2) only once had a bullet exit a deer and that was after a neck shot (all I could see at the time). I shoot 06 in 150g CL.