Best Shooting Gun?

[brent19]

What's the best shooting gun manufacture in your opinion. I bought a used but not much older Ruger M77 25-06 this year and had some trigger work done too it and it has to be the worst shooting gun i have ever shot. This caliber is usually pretty accurate like most. I have tried three different scopes and have put 90 rounds through it and still can't get a group worth bragging about at 100 yards. It's dead eye at 50 yds but move out too 100yds and it looks like a shotgun went off in a 5-6 inch circle. I shot it off sand bags . I don't think it's me but every gun is different. I'm not trying to knock Ruger because i have a 77 in a 243 that is deadly.

[xtrema2]

imo best shooting out of the box would be a savage or cz.

[tex]

two things: A very old, knowledgeable man told me that of all the guns made, the .25 calibers are the most particular when it comes to bullet selection. Another bullet may shoot great. That was his opinion, and I tend to trust it, although I actually don't like the guy.
second point: A gun may look very nice and be kept in great condition, but if it has been used for shooting very hot loads, the barrel could be worn out, my fried did this in a 30-06. At least that is what the gunsmith told him. He said it was close to smooth. I hope this helps.

[daking]

Before I went into great despair, I'd look at a couple of simple things.

1) are all of the screws tight? A loose bedding screw can make a tack driver go to the "spray and pray" mode.

2) Is the barreled action well bedded into the stock? Look for worn, shiny places in the inletting where they shouldn't be. An old trick I was taught by an old guy (which is usually a good source for old tricks) was to insert a shim under the barrel at the end of the forend and shoot the weapon. Observe any change that the shim made. If it tightens the group, maybe you want to play with providing some support at the end of the forend for the barrel. If it opens the group, perhaps the barrel wants to be free-floated.

Ruger is one of the more modern manufacturers. Their machining equipment is precise enough that a bad barreled action from them is a rarity. Although a previous poster is right about a worn barrel, the fact is that a 25/06, while a potent round, is not a particularly bad barrel burner compared to others and modern barrel steel is awfully hard to burn with in the amount of rounds that the average shooter puts through them. Bedding, especially if you have a wooden stock, is where I'd look first. It takes some tinkering, but it often works.

[TROPHYTAKER308]

tikka rifles are awsome shooters,i havent heard anyone not getting a 1 inch group or better,even with the magnum calibers.

[stinkychomper]

I would say CZ with Winchester being #2. I own...
Savage
CZ
Winchester
H&R
TC
Rossi
Bushmaster

[RocketRider]

I have always had good success with Remington model 700s. I've owned three of them and all were shooters! My current one was ordered from the Remington custom shop and has been great right out of the box.
I also had a Weatherby Mk5 that was super accurate, but it cost a small fortune.

RR~

[PARKER]

I have a Remington Model 700 Mountain Rifle in 7mm-08. It has a Simmons 2.5 X 8 Whitetail Classic Scope that has been on it since it was purchased in June of 1991. The rifle was bored sighted when purchased and the scope had never been adjusted until about two weeks ago when I started sighting it in for my 11 year old son to go elk hunting. I sighted it in about 2.5 inches high at 100 yards with hand loads using 140 Gr Nosler Accubonds and 43.0 Gr of IMR 4350. My son made a 220 yard shot on a nice 5X6 bull.

Prior to this his twin brother used the same rifle last January 1st to take his first whitetail at 195 yards with Remington factory loads. I used the same factory loads about two years prior to take a coyote at 160 yards. I am absolutely a believer in the out-of-the-box accuracy of the Remington Model 700 Rifles.

[snood]

I have an old Winchester Model 54 in 257 Roberts. Accuracy is unbelievable and I haven't been able to find a modern rifle that compares.

[k9111]

Another vote for the Remington 700 models. I have literally seen 50 or more of these rifles fired and all but one shot 1" MOA or better. Some grouped in the 1/2" MOA. The one that didn't I sent back to Remington, and they rebarrelled it free of charge. It also came back a shooter.

Like a previous post stated, you may have to try different ammo. If you are a reloader, you would want to try different bullets, powders, and seating depths to try and find the right recipe for the rifle.

[schuyler olt]

Brent,

I have a Ruger M77 in 25-06. It has a trigger job and a 26" bull barrel, and is the most accurate gun in my collection. I agree with what Daking posted. Mine doesn't care what ammo you run through it--it's not picky at all.

I have Win 70s--both pre and after 64, and Model 700s. I like them all.

[daking]

'course if he's REALLY sick of it and wants to unload it cheap, I'd be happy to take a slash at tuning it up.

[Rem7600]

Ruger makes a quality gun. Dont give up on it too soon. I usually buy Remingtons, old habits die hard.

[Born to Hunt]

I handload for and shoot a wide variety of calibers from a wide variety of manufacturers. I have everything from BSA scopes to Leupolds. I have some expensive rifles that shoot sub MOA and I have some expensive ones that don't shoot worth a darn...yet. The same with my cheapos. I only have two Savage rifles and neither of them shoot sub MOA...yet. I think a great deal involves finding the bullet the barrel prefers and of course, a load that suits the rifle / purpose intended.

I have found that if a rifle won't shoot Sierra's match grade bullets well, there is a problem other than load selection. It usually involves bedding, floating, or trigger work or a combination. My trouble is time. I can't seem to buy one rifle and dedicate the time required to find out if the rifle will shoot. I end up with two or three at a time that are new enough I haven't developed a good load for! It sure is fun though.

FWIW, the most accurate rifle I own is a Remington 700 VLS in .243 Win - purely custom except for the trigger adjustment I did myself. The rifle wears a BSA 6-24x40 scope on Burris rings and bases. It shoots sub MOA @100 yards every group...even when the nut behind the trigger pulls off! I have shot some .3's with this rig, but I'd be lying if I said I do it every time. According to my database, the average 100 yd. group fired using IMR 4350 and Sierra Blitzking 70 Grain Bullets is .556".

I have only had one rifle that I could never get to shoot 1" or less with handloads - a Ruger M77 All Weather in .270 Win. I sent it back to Ruger twice and it still wouldn't shoot consistently less than 1.75" @ 100 yards. That is fine for the average whitetail shot, but not what I'm looking for.

I have a tall order. I am searching for a rifle in .30 Cal that spits 165 grain bullets at a minimum of 2900 FPS and stays consistently below .75 MOA. I don't care what brand it is. I haven't found it yet, but I'm sure it is out there. I have come to the conclusion that I may have to get a custom to get what I'm after and the reality of knowing that not many customs will do that, I just have been afraid to lay down the cash for a custom.

[45ACP]

Check muzzle crown for damage.Check for space between barrel and forarm you should be able to wrap a buisness card around the barrel and slide it between barrel forarm. With it dead on at 50 and spraying at 100 it sounds like barrel damage.

[raven_over_easy]

Remington 700 best all around out of the box and into the woods gun money can buy! I have taken a liking to this gun in 30-06 , because it is a very capable and accurate caliber for nearly any situation you may find yourself in. As they say, "proven at the range, proven in the field"

heres proof:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n256/mcdenney/100_0161.jpg

[raktrakr]

The remington 788 was a real shooter for what it was in its day. For the money, I think Savage makes a good shooting rifle these days

[ClayDog]

I have a Remington Model 700 Mountain Rifle in 7mm-08. It has a Simmons 2.5 X 8 Whitetail Classic Scope that has been on it since it was purchased in June of 1991. The rifle was bored sighted when purchased and the scope had never been adjusted until about two weeks ago when I started sighting it in for my 11 year old son to go elk hunting. I sighted it in about 2.5 inches high at 100 yards with hand loads using 140 Gr Nosler Accubonds and 43.0 Gr of IMR 4350. My son made a 220 yard shot on a nice 5X6 bull.

Prior to this his twin brother used the same rifle last January 1st to take his first whitetail at 195 yards with Remington factory loads. I used the same factory loads about two years prior to take a coyote at 160 yards. I am absolutely a believer in the out-of-the-box accuracy of the Remington Model 700 Rifles.

I have A Remington 700 BDL 7mm mag with a 4x12 Leupold variable 3 scope unreal how accurate we have hit shotgun shells at 300yds

[RDF]

There's a article in September Shooting times on Hill Country Rifles, how they guarantee accuracy. They also offer a service on rifles sent in.

[Multidigits]

Most experts consider the Remington 700 as the best out of the box accuracy, but I've found that most of them will shoot better if you take out the pressure pad in the front part of the stock under the barrel. In most cases, it will shrink groups sizes down at least half of what you get out of the box.

As for the best overall, it might be Weatherby, as they send you a target that was shot with each rifle. They don't get shipped unless it's at least inside of the minimum standard. Most are better by a bunch.

[george poe]

sako 75 hunter stainless synthetic.leupold 4 12 40. imo the best out of the box.

[tatenn]

I would have to give my vote to the browning A bolt I love that gun.

[C.L.Button]

I would have to give my vote to the browning A bolt I love that gun.

DITTO ! :D

[TRAILMASTER]

The Remington model 700 in the .270 caliber will not let you down.
Looks good, feels rights, and accurate.

Good Luck!

[love the woods]

i have and have had a boatload of all different types of guns, and for the most part, i loved them all. what sticks out in my mind, is the out of the box performance(sweeeeet trigger and fast sighting) of the brownings. as far as accuracy, i think long heavy barrels have the market cornered no matter who builds the receiver behind it. IMO

[30WCF]

I agree about the Brownings. I hunt with a Browning, its action is sweet and has a great factory trigger that is adjustable.
About any of them will shoot good enough for hunting but the biggest problem I see with all the newer guns is the terrible triggers. Browning and Savage have the best triggers by far of the current big company production rifles.
Now Kimber is another sweet gun although some may consider them a custom rifle, they are very nice but the stock doesnt fit me right or something. They just dont point and sight as nice as my Browning for me.

[P. Beyer]

In my parts,..... a 30-30 w a 3x9x40.... Does the trick every time.

[Carl]

I bought this one for my dad in 1970. It's a 700 BDL Remington "Varmint Special" in .243. He shot lots of groundhogs with it at 200 yds and some at 300 yds. At 100 yds he could easily shoot clover leafs. I could never shoot that good, Dad was a much better shot than me. He gave the gun back to me 5 years ago when he quit hunting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/crmiller/700BDL008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/crmiller/700BDL001.jpg

[Izak]

I'm a big fan of the Sako's

[huntr467]

I hunt with a Browning Stainless Stalker in 7mm rem mag. with a boss, it is incredibly accurate and shoots different loads, and manufacturers equally as well. However I stil have my first rifle. I bought it in '87 its a Ruger M77 270 cal. This gun is sweeeeet shooting. I took My first deer with it, my father his first, and both my nephews at ages 9 and 12 took their first deer. Needless to say I will go to my grave with it. But I prefer the weatherablilty of the browning and the feel of the heavier gun when I put the gun up. Seems like I can shoot better freehanded with the heavier, longer gun.

[jeffb]

if you have never tried a savage with the accutrigger I think you will be amazed.

[Auk1124]

Another vote for the good ol' Savage 110. A lot of people complain about the ugly boat-paddle stocks, but those things just jump right up to my shoulder. Plus it has a tang safety which I prefer. And they are accurate without much work at all. A used one can be picked up for 250 or less, and Rifle Basix makes a fantastic trigger for the non-Accutrigger models. Plus you get the benefits of a switch-barrel rifle if you get tired of whatever caliber you have.