tony does it again

[ryan hickey]

u #20 fanz tired of watching your boy piss and moan yet? OMG, pickin on kenseth?! AGAIN??!! right when tony got out of the car and RAN into his hauler (away from the media), i thought, 'u know this is smart, he's gonna go in there, and try to settle down before he talks to the media so guys like me can't bash him for actin like a jerk.' well, as smart as an idea as that was, i was wrong!! 5 minutes later, here he comes with that look on his face like a 3 year old being sent to time-out. he calls out kenseth - AGAIN - KENSETH!! NOT kurt or kyle busch, MATT FREAKIN KENSETH!! time to slap that boy some heavy thorazine - or at LEAST some prozac:rolleyes: . wonder if he's gonna lose any fanz over this, i mean same crap different week. to stewart fanz, will u ever tire of rooting for a guy who acts like a menacing 5 year old EVERY time things don't go his way?

i know i'm hard on tony, and i make no effort to hide the fact i think he is a jerk of the highest order. but seriously, i think its getting very difficult for his fanz to CONTINUALLY defend his actions, i already know some former stewart fanz who have switched allegiances because of tony's actions.:)

[Multidigits]

Kenseth took him out of a chance to win a Million dollars. That's a lot of money. Tony was/is correct on this one, and Kenseth even admitted to it after his first statement.

Tony a big boy and might need a bit more honing off track when talking to the media. He needs nothing on the track but to keep doing what he's doing.

IF Johnson don't win the Championship, it'll be because of the #20.

[BDT]

Kenseth knew it was his fault, and he started mouthing first. I'd be pissed to if I lost a chance at a million. nobody seems to say anything about Martin running over his teamate.

People don't like Tony? He seemed to get as many cheers as anyone from the crowd, except 8.

Gordan, Johson, and the busch's got booed the most. Tony will keep winning, kenseth will keep whining, Johnson will keep choking, and Gordan will keep fading away

[AteUp]

Stewart wasn't going to talk but after he saw what Matt "demented" Kenseth said in his interview he came out and gave his side. JMO.

[ryan hickey]

nobody likes a sore loser - its downright embarassing for a grown man to act like tony did after the race. u guys are just plain WRONG for saying that was kenseth's fault. guess it was his (kenseth's) fault at daytona too?:rolleyes: god knows tony has NEVER made a mistake on the race track, just ask tony, he'll tell u, he's perfect.

so, ,are u guys defending the way he acted after the race?:confused:

[BDT]

Did you defend Gordan when he pushed Kenseth? I would have.

Truth is Tony gets mad like every other driver, he just speaks up more. A large majority of drivers won't say anything.

On a side note. Greg Biffle can drive, always has been one of the best. How funny was it when nobody caught that jackass diving into the crowd from newman's crew?

[Multidigits]

nobody likes a sore loser - its downright embarassing for a grown man to act like tony did after the race. u guys are just plain WRONG for saying that was kenseth's fault. guess it was his (kenseth's) fault at daytona too?:rolleyes: god knows tony has NEVER made a mistake on the race track, just ask tony, he'll tell u, he's perfect.

so, ,are u guys defending the way he acted after the race?:confused:

Two people involved in the wreck....both of them said it was Matt's fault. Case closed!

Ryan, at this time, Tony Stewert is the cream of the crop when he gets a good car. Others win when they get a great car, Tony does better with less than any other driver on the circuit....like it or not.

[ryan hickey]

Did you defend Gordan when he pushed Kenseth? I would have.

Truth is Tony gets mad like every other driver, he just speaks up more. A large majority of drivers won't say anything.

On a side note. Greg Biffle can drive, always has been one of the best. How funny was it when nobody caught that jackass diving into the crowd from newman's crew?

kenseth made a mistake - AND admitted it at bristol - IN A POINTS RACE. that wreck cost gordo a top 5, he ended up like 22nd, DAMN STRAIGHT he had EVERY right to act the way he did. TONY on the other hand, gets mad at an ALL-STAR event he never woulda won anyway, so what did the wreck really cost him? just a torn up race car, yet tony STILL makes a big deal about it. and the TRUTH is, ALL drivers get mad, but tony is about the only one who acts like a 6 year old when he gets pissed. ever notice, as long as tony wins its all gravy, but when things don't go his way, he pouts like a kid. yeah, u can look back and list instances where most drivers have acted a fool, but tony just keeps right on doing it, every time things don't go his way.

what tony SHOULD have said, "thats just racin..." because thats what it was - in a SHOOTOUT race at that, was kenseth supposed to just get outta the way??!!

[ryan hickey]

Two people involved in the wreck....both of them said it was Matt's fault. Case closed!

Ryan, at this time, Tony Stewert is the cream of the crop when he gets a good car. Others win when they get a great car, Tony does better with less than any other driver on the circuit....like it or not.

u didn't answer the question - does that justify actin like a spoiled brat after the race?

never said A THING about the boys drivin skills multi - and no, i DON'T like it as u can tell;) . like i said, in a shootout race, the rules are different, everybody knows that, hell kyle petty almost killed a guy several years ago because he BLATANTLY spun a guy out during the winston. did this guy piss and moan like tony?! NO, cause that's racin.... case closed;)

[Multidigits]

kenseth made a mistake - AND admitted it at bristol - IN A POINTS RACE. that wreck cost gordo a top 5, he ended up like 22nd, DAMN STRAIGHT he had EVERY right to act the way he did. TONY on the other hand, gets mad at an ALL-STAR event he never woulda won anyway, so what did the wreck really cost him? just a torn up race car, yet tony STILL makes a big deal about it. and the TRUTH is, ALL drivers get mad, but tony is about the only one who acts like a 6 year old when he gets pissed. ever notice, as long as tony wins its all gravy, but when things don't go his way, he pouts like a kid. yeah, u can look back and list instances where most drivers have acted a fool, but tony just keeps right on doing it, every time things don't go his way.

what tony SHOULD have said, "thats just racin..." because thats what it was - in a SHOOTOUT race at that, was kenseth supposed to just get outta the way??!!

Your not connecting the dots.......Tony wouldn't have said anything had Matt kept his mouth shut and not tried to blame all of it on Tony. Big deal??? must have been. Seems like a lot of aggressive driving and lots of gus wanting a chance to win.....and Tony was in position to finish high until he was took out.

Matt could have stayed out of the way, but he screwed up and came down on to someone that was already in the middle of a run. If he wanted to block, he was late getting to the spot. Both drivers said that he came down the track into the 20 car.

[BDT]

Your probably right that Tony wouldn't have won, but he could have. He only lost a chance at a million dollars. Maybe he felt like fininshing the race.

Kenseth says this wreck was probably his fault. It's not just racin when people can't drive around the track. Ask Kasey Kane and Mark Martin

[ryan hickey]

Your not connecting the dots.......Tony wouldn't have said anything had Matt kept his mouth shut and not tried to blame all of it on Tony. Big deal??? must have been. Seems like a lot of aggressive driving and lots of gus wanting a chance to win.....and Tony was in position to finish high until he was took out.

Matt could have stayed out of the way, but he screwed up and came down on to someone that was already in the middle of a run. If he wanted to block, he was late getting to the spot. Both drivers said that he came down the track into the 20 car.

i guess my point is, in a non-points race, shootout situation, it doesn't matter if kenseth MEANT to wreck him (which btw i don't think is true), its an all-star race, somebody wrecks u - like vickers did last year in the open - tuff cookie, no sense in whinin about it, which tony did imo. its JUST RACIN - get over it. BTW multi, u still haven't answered the question....

[ryan hickey]

Your probably right that Tony wouldn't have won, but he could have. He only lost a chance at a million dollars. Maybe he felt like fininshing the race.

Kenseth says this wreck was probably his fault. It's not just racin when people can't drive around the track. Ask Kasey Kane and Mark Martin

the rules are different in an all-star race. as a #20 fan, does it bother u when tony acts like that?

[BDT]

i guess my point is, in a non-points race, shootout situation, it doesn't matter if kenseth MEANT to wreck him (which btw i don't think is true), its an all-star race, somebody wrecks u - like vickers did last year in the open - tuff cookie, no sense in whinin about it, which tony did imo. its JUST RACIN - get over it. BTW multi, u still haven't answered the question....

The point is Kenseth whined first, so did Mark Martin

[Multidigits]

I answered the question, you just don't want to hear the truth. Tony acted normal for someone that was wrcked by someone that was pissed at getting passed for his chance to win the money. Nothing abnormal for what he said.....somebody else called him out on it. Later, Matt owned up to that. Him acting childish is your opinion, not mine. Most drivers would have done the same thing.

Here's what they said, I don't see anything childish about Stewerts statement: http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/cup/05/21/tstewart.mkenseth.crash/index.html

[ryan hickey]

not so much WHAT tony said as the way he said it, his tone, the scowl on his face, his voice quivering with emotion. thats the one constant with tony when he's mad, his voice quivers almost like he's about to cry or something.

if u read that article, matt said 'tony's always mad at somebody' - aint that the truth.

multi, would u consider trying to pick a fight with kenseth's crew cheif to be childish? would u want your kid to act like that?:)

[ryan hickey]

The point is Kenseth whined first, so did Mark Martin

this ain't about mark martin;) , when he opens his mouth he is whining;) :)

[BDT]

not so much WHAT tony said as the way he said it, his tone, the scowl on his face, his voice quivering with emotion. thats the one constant with tony when he's mad, his voice quivers almost like he's about to cry or something.

if u read that article, matt said 'tony's always mad at somebody' - aint that the truth.

multi, would u consider trying to pick a fight with kenseth's crew cheif to be childish? would u want your kid to act like that?:)

Gordan trying to pick a fight with kenseth-childish?

Kenseth was the one looking like he was going to cry. Tony has a temper, big deal, so does the majority of drivers. Tony's more vocal. Good, I wish the rest of the drivers would be.

[BDT]

this ain't about mark martin;) , when he opens his mouth he is whining;) :)

My point was several guys were whining, Tony just got extra pissed because of what Kenseth said in his interview.

Shouldn't Kyle Busch be in Napoleon Dynamite and not racing?

[ryan hickey]

Gordan trying to pick a fight with kenseth-childish?

Kenseth was the one looking like he was going to cry. Tony has a temper, big deal, so does the majority of drivers. Tony's more vocal. Good, I wish the rest of the drivers would be.


not sure what u r trying to say here? :confused: u talking about gordon-kenseth or stewart-kenesth part 2? did u see tony try to fight robbie riser after the race? that's not childish? really? i guess i'm wrong here, i just know i wouldn't want my kid to act like tony did after a sporting event, and here u guys are defending a grown man acting like a kid :confused: ....

color me surprised:eek:

[ryan hickey]

My point was several guys were whining, Tony just got extra pissed because of what Kenseth said in his interview.

Shouldn't Kyle Busch be in Napoleon Dynamite and not racing?


love your napoleon dynamite comment :D - u make that up? its hilarious. me personally, i hate kurt alot worse than i do kyle. kyle doesn't actually bother me (not near as much as he bothers tony anyway).

i guess alot of guys WERE whining, any of them try to beat up another crew cheif?:rolleyes:

[BDT]

not sure what u r trying to say here? :confused: u talking about gordon-kenseth or stewart-kenesth part 2? did u see tony try to fight robbie riser after the race? that's not childish? really? i guess i'm wrong here, i just know i wouldn't want my kid to act like tony did after a sporting event, and here u guys are defending a grown man acting like a kid :confused: ....

color me surprised:eek:

Your saying its wrong for tony to try to fight somebody, but its not for Jeff.

That's what I'm getting at.

Kenseth has no intention of trying to fight anyone of course.

[BDT]

love your napoleon dynamite comment :D - u make that up? its hilarious. me personally, i hate kurt alot worse than i do kyle. kyle doesn't actually bother me (not near as much as he bothers tony anyway).

i guess alot of guys WERE whining, any of them try to beat up another crew cheif?:rolleyes:

I don't like kyle or kurt much at all. I just think that kyle is just a douche bag.

On a different but similar note. My wife don't like Biffle because he looks funny she says, but I've heard worse reason for not liking a driver. I think Biffle handles a car as well as anybody in Nextell cup, he just can't get a break.

[ryan hickey]

as i explained earlier, this is a different situation. at bristol, kenseth went to gordon's car - gordon didn't go running after him like tony did robby riser. gordon was FORCED to either talk to kenseth or do what he did which we both agree wasn't THAT bad. i don't even think i would call it childish.

tony does something like this at least once a month (which is about how often his car doesn't run great - coincidence? i think not), jeff very rarely does dumb stuff

[ryan hickey]

I don't like kyle or kurt much at all. I just think that kyle is just a douche bag.

On a different but similar note. My wife don't like Biffle because he looks funny she says, but I've heard worse reason for not liking a driver. I think Biffle handles a car as well as anybody in Nextell cup, he just can't get a break.

we agree on everything 'cept your boy :confused: . come on over from the dark side BDT, its not too late.;) :D

i REALLY thought that biffle would win the thing this year - and he still may

[AteUp]

nobody likes a sore loser - its downright embarassing for a grown man to act like tony did after the race. u guys are just plain WRONG for saying that was kenseth's fault. guess it was his (kenseth's) fault at daytona too?:rolleyes: god knows tony has NEVER made a mistake on the race track, just ask tony, he'll tell u, he's perfect.

so, ,are u guys defending the way he acted after the race?:confused:

Sorry, you are just plain wrong. Tony flipped his Busch car at Talladega and took full responsibility for the wreck. Take off your "Stewart Hater" glasses.

[ryan hickey]

Sorry, you are just plain wrong. Tony flipped his Busch car at Talladega and took full responsibility for the wreck. Take off your "Stewart Hater" glasses.


i FULLY admit to being a hater here. as far as tony taking one for the team - something about a blind hog and an acorn...???:rolleyes:

what about at daytona when he wrecked kenseth for the first time, did he admit guilt then? hell no, was it his fault? hell yes.

[Multidigits]

not so much WHAT tony said as the way he said it, his tone, the scowl on his face, his voice quivering with emotion. thats the one constant with tony when he's mad, his voice quivers almost like he's about to cry or something.

if u read that article, matt said 'tony's always mad at somebody' - aint that the truth.

multi, would u consider trying to pick a fight with kenseth's crew cheif to be childish? would u want your kid to act like that?:)

IMO-Kenseth is the crybaby, more so than Stewert. Stewert is more competitive and doesn't like getting screwed over. Yes, I would want my sons to have that trait.

[raktrakr]

whinning goes with the job, it just gets worse after you win a cup.
I use to like Stewart til he won the championship,same goes with Kenseth

[nwest]

I try to stay out of these little scuffles and will only say this. Tony is the baddest man to step behind the wheel since Earnhardt was in his prime. If you take any other driver out there and cut their back bumper off/beat the front off and watch them ride around in the back Tony was up front, you know why? Because he can drive the wheels off of anything!!! I have seen him drive a strangers car on the dirt and lap the entire field in a 20 lap race. You really should take those blinders off and watch because you are wasting alot of time not watching a very very talented man drive a race car.

[hwright]

Tony is a poopy pants....

[Southpaw]

I know its the same old song and dance.BUT Tony thinks he is picking up where Dale Sr left off.That will never happen in this day and age.He is a fantastic racecar driver.But he is also a poster boy for PROZAC.Did anybody see the commercial where he grabbed a mans rearend and laughed about it.Where I come from we dont play that game.Makes you wonder what he and his monkey are into.Never see him with a female except mommy.Oh well as far as BDTs comment I dont think Jimmy is choking and it looks as if Jeff is not fading so whats up with the comment.Both are right where they need to be for the chase.I am not sure you were watching the last two races but Hendricks cars owned charlotte sat night with Busch ,Johnson and gordon with two first and a third. And last week I believe Gordon was second to Biffle. So if that is fading you need to get on the poster with Tony because you are dilusional.

[maxcam]

Ryan I know it is hard to accpet that the time for Gordo has come and gone before he had a chance to join the likes of Earnhardt and Petty! But dont get tooo upset over it.....:D

[AteUp]

Tony is a poopy pants....
Is not!....

[hwright]

Is not!....

Is too....:D

[kyhunter270]

Folks, like Harry Hyde(Robert Duval) said,,,, Rubbing is racing and if Kenseth or Reisner can't handle the heat from their bone-head decision to try to block Tony that's their call...Play with fire at times and you get burn't....I would say that Stewart went at the crew chief in an attempt to get Kenseth to come out of his hauler? Tricks are for kids Hickster,,, and my thoughts to Ol' Mattie would be the same that have been said for years....If you can't hang with the big dogs, stay on the porch....Woof, Woof.....:)

[ryan hickey]

Ryan I know it is hard to accpet that the time for Gordo has come and gone before he had a chance to join the likes of Earnhardt and Petty! But dont get tooo upset over it.....:D

don't count him out yet - with the new points system even biffle still has a shot this year.:cool:

besides, that ain't what this thread was about:p

[ryan hickey]

I try to stay out of these little scuffles and will only say this. Tony is the baddest man to step behind the wheel since Earnhardt was in his prime. If you take any other driver out there and cut their back bumper off/beat the front off and watch them ride around in the back Tony was up front, you know why? Because he can drive the wheels off of anything!!! I have seen him drive a strangers car on the dirt and lap the entire field in a 20 lap race. You really should take those blinders off and watch because you are wasting alot of time not watching a very very talented man drive a race car.


if u read ANY of my rants detailing my dislike for the #20 - u will see one theme. I NEVER SAY THE MAN AIN'T TALENTED - in fact if u look at some of my posts u will see where i've said he MIGHT be the most talented one in the whole series. this thread is not about whether or not tony can drive, its about whether he acts like a 6 year old on a regular basis - and he does, regardless of how many fully grown men try to stick for his childish behavior :rolleyes: .

i wonder how many of u would defend a driver like say travis kvapil if acted like tony does every week.:rolleyes:

[BearsBud]

if u read ANY of my rants detailing my dislike for the #20 - u will see one theme. I NEVER SAY THE MAN AIN'T TALENTED - in fact if u look at some of my posts u will see where i've said he MIGHT be the most talented one in the whole series. this thread is not about whether or not tony can drive, its about whether he acts like a 6 year old on a regular basis - and he does, regardless of how many fully grown men try to stick for his childish behavior :rolleyes: .

i wonder how many of u would defend a driver like say travis kvapil if acted like tony does every week.:rolleyes:

Ryan,

According to you Stewart is aging quickly. He began this thread as a 3 year old and is already a 6 year old. He seems to be catching up fast. As to your comments about his behavior, I grew up racing long before there was a big NASCAR following. I raced stock cars and when there was an on track altercation such as this case, someone would have gotten a tire iron or a chain and headed to the others pit. I have never met a truely competitive person who did not take losing very hard and being screwed out of a win even harder. Personally, I would have wanted to b***h slapped the little turd for what he did. But hey, that's just the way I roll.:D And yes, I would support Kvapil, Earnhardt and even that faggy little Gordon for stepping up, speaking their mind and having a set.

[skin_dog1]

I've defended Tony many times and have always said he would've fit in real good 25 or 30 years ago. Most of his antics wouldn't recieve a headline. Now, if I was a big time nascar star he wouldn't hold a candle to my hell raisin! There are several of those pansy ass silver spoon drivers that I'd like to give a knuckle sandwhich! My nickname would be Dave "the Probation King" SkinDog!! I'd hold the record for longest time spent on probation with the most infractions in a career. BTW, Tony must be doing something right, Home Depot keeps coming back for more! I think he should hold a charity boxing match and invite a few of his "buddies"! I'll pay to watch it. I can see it now, Tony kicking ass for 9 rounds, me and JR. in the front row sucking down budweiser with the cute little bikini clad girls that carry the round# signs. I just got to let JR know that the blonde is mine! Well, I guess
I got a little carried away, but you get the point.

[gwhilikerz]

I like Tony. I like Kennseth, I like Waltrip (class act). Heck, I even like Gordon. Don't care for Dale Jr., think he is just an average driver at best. So there:p

[kevhunter]

I saw Stewart on the country music awards last night and it looked like he had been driving a Krispy Kreme truck instead of a race car, man is he fat.

[skin_dog1]

I saw Stewart on the country music awards last night and it looked like he had been driving a Krispy Kreme truck instead of a race car, man is he fat.I told the wife the same thing!

[mwezell]

Tony Stewart is probably the most talented driver on the track.
Tony Stewart is probably the biggest jerk as well.
Kurt Bush,Robbie Gordon are close behind.

[ryan hickey]

Tony Stewart is probably the most talented driver on the track.
Tony Stewart is probably the biggest jerk as well.
Kurt Bush,Robbie Gordon are close behind.


thats all i'm tryin to say...;)

[AteUp]

Tony Stewart is probably the most talented driver on the track.
Tony Stewart is probably the biggest jerk as well.
Kurt Bush,Robbie Gordon are close behind.

You forgot one:
Tony Stewart is probably one of the top 3 or 4 drivers who help others that are less fortunate than he is.

[Multidigits]

The only reason you think he's a jerk, is because he's better than your best pick. Reverse it, and then he's a good guy that likes to win races.

[ryan hickey]

The only reason you think he's a jerk, is because he's better than your best pick. Reverse it, and then he's a good guy that likes to win races.


of all the things tony might be - a good guy?! :eek: away from the track sure, but that ain't what we're talkin about here

[Multidigits]

of all the things tony might be - a good guy?! :eek: away from the track sure, but that ain't what we're talkin about here

He's a good feloow away from the track...on the track he's one of the best, maybe the best driving today........at the track after the race, he's Tony, and takes care of business as he sees fit. Bottom line, he's just like the rest of the drivers and sometimes shows his emotions after a long fought battle on the track. Based solely on last weeks deal, he was correct 100% on what he did and said. Some of the other issues in the past, he was wrong and paid his price, same as other drivers have done.

[B.G.O. of Kentucky]

Well, Ryan knows where I stand, I haven't seen the incident for myself yet, have it on DVR, so I will check it out this weekend, but from the articles I have read, and the statements, obviously Matt was wrong. Tony is a hot head. Tony is emotional. Tony is fat. Tony is the most talented driver on the circuit. No one can argue any of these points. Yes, in his interview, his voice was shakey, that is due to his emotions and passion. He was upset, let down, mad etc. He wanted a chance to win, not that he would have, but he at least would have finished.

Obviously Tony couldn't win, Lowes & JJ wouldn't allow that. ;)

[ryan hickey]

He's a good feloow away from the track...on the track he's one of the best, maybe the best driving today........at the track after the race, he's Tony, and takes care of business as he sees fit. Bottom line, he's just like the rest of the drivers and sometimes shows his emotions after a long fought battle on the track. Based solely on last weeks deal, he was correct 100% on what he did and said. Some of the other issues in the past, he was wrong and paid his price, same as other drivers have done.


i'm so tired of 'thats just tony being tony':rolleyes: . basball has manny ramirez, he acts like an a-hole and thats what everybody says - 'it's just manny being manny' - OMG! it ain't 'tony being tony' - its tony being an a-hole! so multi, u r defending tony going after a crew chief, cussing and yelling and generally actin like an a-hole? i'm not even talking about who was or wasn't responsible for the wreck - i'm talkin about tony being a jerk. i mean, y was he jumpin on robbie riser? he don't drive the car. was it kenseth's fault at daytona too? hell no, so the way i see it, tony shoulda expected that one, not acted like the world had come to an end over a NON-POINTS race - a race where in the past, people have been wrecked ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY on purpose, that wasn't the case here. i don't know if kenseth has EVER done anything malisciously on the race track.:)

[Multidigits]

i'm so tired of 'thats just tony being tony':rolleyes: . basball has manny ramirez, he acts like an a-hole and thats what everybody says - 'it's just manny being manny' - OMG! it ain't 'tony being tony' - its tony being an a-hole! so multi, u r defending tony going after a crew chief, cussing and yelling and generally actin like an a-hole? i'm not even talking about who was or wasn't responsible for the wreck - i'm talkin about tony being a jerk. i mean, y was he jumpin on robbie riser? he don't drive the car. was it kenseth's fault at daytona too? hell no, so the way i see it, tony shoulda expected that one, not acted like the world had come to an end over a NON-POINTS race - a race where in the past, people have been wrecked ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY on purpose, that wasn't the case here. i don't know if kenseth has EVER done anything malisciously on the race track.:)

Yeah, guess so. Riser is a jerk just like Matt. both seem kind of queer if you ask me. He may not drive the car, but he has control over everything it does. Even the spotter, unless your going to concede that Matt just purposely ran over the guy? Anyway, they asked Matt about yesterday and he fully accepted responsiblility for the wreck.....had he did that last week without spouting off first, it would be a different outcome.

Non-points race that pays a $mill$ion dollars.....not just a run to the next light deal. Not to mention tearing up a race car that someone has to fix and pay for.

[ryan hickey]

Yeah, guess so. Riser is a jerk just like Matt. HUH?! really?!both seem kind of queer if you ask me. He may not drive the car, but he has control over everything it does. Even the spotter, unless your going to concede that Matt just purposely ran over the guy? SO WHAT if he did? tony wrecked him on purpose at daytona AND STILL HASN"T admitted that it was his fault. Anyway, they asked Matt about yesterday and he fully accepted responsiblility for the wreck.....had he did that last week without spouting off first, it would be a different outcome. SOMEBODY had to stand up and take responsibility - tony sure ain't gonna do it. even if kenseth wrecked him ON PURPOSE - which there is NO PROOF - it still doesn't justify tony actin like a street thug toward someone who wasn't even driving the car:rolleyes:

Non-points race that pays a $mill$ion dollars.....not just a run to the next light deal. Not to mention tearing up a race car that someone has to fix and pay for.

no excuse for actin the way tony did - bottom line. but u r right about one thing multi, this is nothing new for tony...:rolleyes:

[ryan hickey]

Yeah, guess so. Riser is a jerk just like Matt. HUH?! really?!both seem kind of queer if you ask me. He may not drive the car, but he has control over everything it does. Even the spotter, unless your going to concede that Matt just purposely ran over the guy? SO WHAT if he did? tony wrecked him on purpose at daytona AND STILL HASN"T admitted that it was his fault. Anyway, they asked Matt about yesterday and he fully accepted responsiblility for the wreck.....had he did that last week without spouting off first, it would be a different outcome. SOMEBODY had to stand up and take responsibility - tony sure ain't gonna do it. even if kenseth wrecked him ON PURPOSE - which there is NO PROOF - it still doesn't justify tony actin like a street thug toward someone who wasn't even driving the car:rolleyes:

Non-points race that pays a $mill$ion dollars.....not just a run to the next light deal. Not to mention tearing up a race car that someone has to fix and pay for.

no excuse for actin the way tony did - bottom line. but u r right about one thing multi, this is nothing new for tony...:rolleyes:

[AteUp]

What did Tony do last week that was so bad Ryan? If you watch the replay, you can clearly see Kenseth in the gas during the wreck trying to ram the 20 car out of his way. I've watched it 10 times already. He was running along the wall and wasn't even in contact with the 20 and he gasses it and runs him down the wall 100 yards. Kenseth is one of the biggest whiners on the circuit.

[Multidigits]

What did Tony do last week that was so bad Ryan? If you watch the replay, you can clearly see Kenseth in the gas during the wreck trying to ram the 20 car out of his way. I've watched it 10 times already. He was running along the wall and wasn't even in contact with the 20 and he gasses it and runs him down the wall 100 yards. Kenseth is one of the biggest whiners on the circuit.

Agreed...100%

[ryan hickey]

What did Tony do last week that was so bad Ryan? If you watch the replay, you can clearly see Kenseth in the gas during the wreck trying to ram the 20 car out of his way. I've watched it 10 times already. He was running along the wall and wasn't even in contact with the 20 and he gasses it and runs him down the wall 100 yards. Kenseth is one of the biggest whiners on the circuit.


IMO, what was so bad was cussing and yelling at riser after the race. it was childish IMO - what did riser have to do with what happened on the track?! after watching kenseth admit that alot of it was his fault this week, i started to kinda agree that (with u guys) tony had a right to be pissed off about it. BUT, that don't make it right to go runnin up on robbie riser (AND crew) like he wanted to fight or something - i just wish they'd let him go at riser(AND crew), prolly woulda had his arse handed to him :) . sooner or later thats what will prolly happen - at least i hope so ;) . like i said to multi, it don't matter if he DID do it on purpose, in this race that kind of stuff happens EVERY YEAR. FWIW, i think tony would kick matt's a## if the 2 of them went at it - which might happen soon!!:cool:

[B.G.O. of Kentucky]

If they would just let the duke it out like they used to, alot of people would not be racing, the little winers would be broke down.

I think Kenseth is a good driver, but he is a winer, he always puts blame on everyone else. I am not a Jr fan, but I give him the utmost respect in the aspect, if he screws up, he is on the radio and taking the blame before it is an issue.

Jeffy Gordo was a goody too shoe pretty boy for years, he shows his emotion once and I gained more respect for him than all of his wins combined. Now, if he would have taken his helmet off, he might have not been so quick to shove Matt :).

As I said, Tony is a hothead, I don't expect that to change, and when someone basically takes $1 mill out of your reach, I would be as upset as he was and probably ready to whip the whole crews rear end.

[ryan hickey]

If they would just let the duke it out like they used to, alot of people would not be racing, the little winers would be broke down.

I think Kenseth is a good driver, but he is a winer, he always puts blame on everyone else. I am not a Jr fan, but I give him the utmost respect in the aspect, if he screws up, he is on the radio and taking the blame before it is an issue.

Jeffy Gordo was a goody too shoe pretty boy for years, he shows his emotion once and I gained more respect for him than all of his wins combined. Now, if he would have taken his helmet off, he might have not been so quick to shove Matt :).

As I said, Tony is a hothead, I don't expect that to change, and when someone basically takes $1 mill out of your reach, I would be as upset as he was and probably ready to whip the whole crews rear end.


alot of truth here - especially about jr. the main reason jeffy didn't have his helmet off was cause he didn't have time, kenseth was already at his car. he BARELY had time to get out of his restraints...

they ALL do it from time to time, but showing one's a$$ is something tony does more often than any of them.

kenseth is an idiot - he let the #88 cost him the win at bristol (he shoulda just plain wrecked him as he was not even on the lead lap). then had THE NERVE to complain after the race about #97 wrecking him for the win!! what did he THINK kurt was gonna do when he caught him - WAVE?!

[Multidigits]

change the subject.....what about Micheal failing to qualify?????

[AteUp]

Ryan, all you know is what you saw on TV. A lot more goes on than is shown. Reiser, (don't you think he looks like Shrek?) could very well have started the fight with Stewart.

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/nascar-wcs/2003/gen/nascarwcs-2003-gen-tm-0207.jpg

[AteUp]

Ryan, all we see is what happens on TV. Reiser very well could have started the incident with Tony. Don't you think Reiser looks like Shrek?

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/nascar-wcs/2003/gen/nascarwcs-2003-gen-tm-0207.jpg

[ryan hickey]

change the subject.....what about Micheal failing to qualify?????

man that sucks - i bet it don't happen next year:)

[BDT]

change the subject.....what about Micheal failing to qualify?????

Sad. I feel for Micheal. He's a good guy. He took full blame for his wreck on saturday, and apologized to his crew. It's just not old mikey's year. Not my one of my favorites, but I certainly don't have anything against the guy.

Denny Hamlin's looking like he might have a shot at this thing Sunday. Anobody else got any good sleeper picks. Biffle mike make a run, but I wouldn't call that a sleeper. We all know I'm rootin for Tony, but who would you put the money on. I' d have to say Jimmy Johnson of course, but look out for Biffle. Hamlin's my sleeper pick

[ryan hickey]

Ryan, all we see is what happens on TV. Reiser very well could have started the incident with Tony. Don't you think Reiser looks like Shrek?

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/nascar-wcs/2003/gen/nascarwcs-2003-gen-tm-0207.jpg


good point ate-up - if it weren't for tony's track record u might actually have something there. reiser sho'nuff looks like shrek to me

[ryan hickey]

Sad. I feel for Micheal. He's a good guy. He took full blame for his wreck on saturday, and apologized to his crew. It's just not old mikey's year. Not my one of my favorites, but I certainly don't have anything against the guy.

Denny Hamlin's looking like he might have a shot at this thing Sunday. Anobody else got any good sleeper picks. Biffle mike make a run, but I wouldn't call that a sleeper. We all know I'm rootin for Tony, but who would you put the money on. I' d have to say Jimmy Johnson of course, but look out for Biffle. Hamlin's my sleeper pick


scott riggs is my sleeper...

[BDT]

scott riggs is my sleeper...

He certainly has a fast car. I as excited about this race as I have been in awhile. I think it's going to real competive all the way around.

If you had to bet the farm on somebody for the race, who would it be?

[BDT]

Waltrip's in the race. He bought Derrick Copes car for the race. He's a link. Glad to see mikey in the race, but doubt he'll be to successful. It would have been real tough for a big name like Waltrip to miss out on one of the four or five biggest races of the season.

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/cup/05/26/mwaltrip_buy/index.html

[ryan hickey]

He certainly has a fast car. I as excited about this race as I have been in awhile. I think it's going to real competive all the way around.

If you had to bet the farm on somebody for the race, who would it be?

be crazy to bet against the #48 - he owns the joint as this point (hey i'm rhymin :cool: ). other than that, i'd have to say gordon-kenseth-stewart-hell i don't know:confused:

we're both fired up about this one BDT!!:)

[nwest]

WOW Hickey I had forgotten how deep your hatred was:D