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B.G.O. of Kentucky
04-04-2006, 10:17 AM
He is entering the draft. I think we knew it, but it is official. No agent yet.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKC_KENTUCKY_RONDO_KYOL-?SITE=KYLOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Hammer
04-04-2006, 10:25 AM
doesn't mean he won't be back next year.

BearsBud
04-04-2006, 10:28 AM
I would rate his skills at slightly better than Morris and we saw where he was drafted. I think he'll be back. He hasn't yet shown the skills to make the NBA, starting with a good jumper. Ball handling is great, but they expect a guard to score from outside occassionally.:D

KYBOY
04-04-2006, 10:37 AM
Be lucky to be a fourth round pick:rolleyes:

cobbhunts
04-04-2006, 11:13 AM
NBA is only two rounds, so I personally do not think he will be drafted or even hire an agent. Allthough, the NBA mock drafts have him being picked around the middle of the first round. Who knows?

http://nbadraft.net/index.asp?content=mock2006

ryan hickey
04-04-2006, 11:19 AM
rajon will be a first round pick, anybody want to bet on it, send me a pm. all u gotta do is look at mock drafts being made up, most of those have him going in the top 15.

understand this guys, i'm not saying that rondo is an all-around point guard or anything else about his SKILLS, i'm just saying that he DOES have the intangibles (leaping ability, extremely quick feet and hands, LONG ARMS AND FINGERS, good rebounder). these are things that can niether be learned or taught, u either got 'em or u don't.

remember, the nba and ncaa are not even CLOSE to being the same game. the only real similarity IMO is that they both play with the same ball.

BearsBud
04-04-2006, 11:30 AM
rajon will be a first round pick, anybody want to bet on it, send me a pm. all u gotta do is look at mock drafts being made up, most of those have him going in the top 15.

understand this guys, i'm not saying that rondo is an all-around point guard or anything else about his SKILLS, i'm just saying that he DOES have the intangibles (leaping ability, extremely quick feet and hands, LONG ARMS AND FINGERS, good rebounder). these are things that can niether be learned or taught, u either got 'em or u don't.

remember, the nba and ncaa are not even CLOSE to being the same game. the only real similarity IMO is that they both play with the same ball.

Regardless of his physical attributes, he is just not on the same level as guards like JJ Redick, for instance. The other things that the NBA and the NCAA have in common are the 10' basket height, the size of the hoop and the backboards. The intangibles are great but the bottom line is you must be able to score and a guard must be able to do it from outside and preferrably from beyond the arc. He just can't do it and I seriously doubt he can learn to do it. Three point shooting is also something that you either have or you don't, and he doesn't have it.

BOBCAT
04-04-2006, 11:34 AM
There Are Only 2 Rounds In The Nba Draft. Everyone Else Becomes An Un-drafted Free Agent, Just Like Chuck Hayes Last Year

ryan hickey
04-04-2006, 11:47 AM
Regardless of his physical attributes, he is just not on the same level as guards like JJ Redick, for instance. The other things that the NBA and the NCAA have in common are the 10' basket height, the size of the hoop and the backboards. The intangibles are great but the bottom line is you must be able to score and a guard must be able to do it from outside and preferrably from beyond the arc. He just can't do it and I seriously doubt he can learn to do it. Three point shooting is also something that you either have or you don't, and he doesn't have it.


did u read the part in my post that said pm me if u want to bet? well, the mailbox is open!! u can hate on uk and rajon all u want, he will play somewhere next year, jj will have a real good seat to watch all the action!!

WBBP
04-04-2006, 12:11 PM
IMO, he had no other choice but to enter the draft. He correctly envisions his stock as only "tumbling" under Tubby. This move is the right one and he will be drafted in the first or second round....probably the second.


K

BearsBud
04-04-2006, 12:29 PM
did u read the part in my post that said pm me if u want to bet? well, the mailbox is open!! u can hate on uk and rajon all u want, he will play somewhere next year, jj will have a real good seat to watch all the action!!

Nope. No betting. But we shall see what we shall see. By the way, I don't hate on Kentucky, only on the Tub. I mourn the loss of the Kentucky we once had and envision a brighter future once changes are made, if they are made. Rondo is just another in a long line of Tubby hopefuls that where shining stars until they hit the NCAA Division I ranks. Then they became OK ball players. Some kids should just take advantage of the opportunities they get and finish their college education. I do agree that he will be playing somewhere next year, right next to Morris. Even Rondo isn't so sure he will be drafted, otherwise he would have gotten an agent and started trying to negotiate the right draft position.

KYBOY
04-04-2006, 12:32 PM
I know its only two rounds, I meant it as a joke:D

ryan hickey
04-04-2006, 01:38 PM
Nope. No betting. But we shall see what we shall see. By the way, I don't hate on Kentucky, only on the Tub. I mourn the loss of the Kentucky we once had and envision a brighter future once changes are made, if they are made. Rondo is just another in a long line of Tubby hopefuls that where shining stars until they hit the NCAA Division I ranks. Then they became OK ball players. Some kids should just take advantage of the opportunities they get and finish their college education. I do agree that he will be playing somewhere next year, right next to Morris. Even Rondo isn't so sure he will be drafted, otherwise he would have gotten an agent and started trying to negotiate the right draft position.

ummmmmmm ok :rolleyes:

hillhntr
04-04-2006, 01:42 PM
Well, his intent is to get an agent. I just heard that on the press conference.

Multidigits
04-04-2006, 01:45 PM
Who cares???? next year we'll have a good excuse for losing. We can use the Pitino whine that we are young.

BearsBud
04-04-2006, 01:50 PM
Who cares???? next year we'll have a good excuse for losing. We can use the Pitino whine that we are young.

See, Multi knows what to expect from a Tubby team, a worse season than the last. Regardless of which whine Tubby uses, the results are predictable.

hillhntr
04-04-2006, 01:55 PM
Who cares???? next year we'll have a good excuse for losing. We can use the Pitino whine that we are young.

I assume this is directed at me since I posted the intent of getting an agent. I just figured that since this thread was about him entering the draft, some might be interested...

AteUp
04-04-2006, 02:05 PM
http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8GPB0E8B.html

Kentucky guard Rajon Rondo has played his last basketball game as a Kentucky Wildcat.

Rondo said Tuesday that he is hiring an agent and hopes to become a high pick in the NBA draft. The move to get an agent means Rondo won't be eligible to play college basketball again.

Rondo made the announcement alongside coach Tubby Smith, who said he would miss the quick point guard, but acknowledged he should be one of the nation's top picks. Rondo led the Wildcats this season in virtually every category — points, rebounds, assists and steals.

Rondo, a McDonald's high school All-American from Louisville, was considered the quickest and most athletic of the guard-heavy lineup. But midway through Kentucky's season, subpar by the school's standards, Smith benched Rondo and several other starters in an attempt to ignite the team.

Rondo's classmate, center Randolph Morris, attempted to enter the draft a year ago but went undrafted. He returned to Kentucky this season but only after being suspended for 14 games for his association with a sports agent.

Kelenna Azubuike, another star of last year's Wildcats, hired an agent but he too wasn't chosen by a professional team.

schuyler olt
04-04-2006, 02:36 PM
I think he's smart to hire an agent after the jerking around Morris took, and I think he's smart because in his case it will help him get drafted. He's got tons of talent, and they can either avoid or cure his shooting ills. After all, if you have Kobe Bryant, you need a guy to get Kobe the ball, not take the shot.

What I wonder is what this will do to the UK team chemistry. Maybe this is a good thing for everyone.

Multidigits
04-04-2006, 02:42 PM
I assume this is directed at me since I posted the intent of getting an agent. I just figured that since this thread was about him entering the draft, some might be interested...

Directed at no one other than Rondo. If he wants to leave, who cares. Hope the door hits him in the ass.

WBBP
04-04-2006, 02:50 PM
The team chemistry will improve after Rondo leaves, especially after Tubby makes his announcement.

K

hillhntr
04-04-2006, 03:08 PM
I could be wrong, but I don't think Tubby is too tore up over Rondo leaving. He seemed awfully content during that press conference. Good thing is a freed up scholarship. It would be nice for UK to return to the top in the near future, maybe this will be a step in the right direction, maybe not.

WBBP
04-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Tubby ain't too tore up becuase he and Rondo dion't like each other. Maybe they will use the scholarship to recruit an athletic forward that can contribute. Obviously, we have enough guards and centers........

K

ryan hickey
04-04-2006, 03:28 PM
I think he's smart to hire an agent after the jerking around Morris took, and I think he's smart because in his case it will help him get drafted. He's got tons of talent, and they can either avoid or cure his shooting ills. After all, if you have Kobe Bryant, you need a guy to get Kobe the ball, not take the shot.

What I wonder is what this will do to the UK team chemistry. Maybe this is a good thing for everyone.


i'm glad SOMEBODY can see this.

Multidigits
04-04-2006, 04:18 PM
Which game did they have any chemistry?????

JP
04-04-2006, 04:49 PM
Tubby ain't too tore up becuase he and Rondo dion't like each other. Maybe they will use the scholarship to recruit an athletic forward that can contribute. Obviously, we have enough guards and centers........

K

haha...good luck! He is already 2 scholarships in the HOLE!! Two guys were going to have to be cut or stay without a scholarship :rolleyes: So this is bailing Tubby out!!

Rondo is a talented player...and its a shame to lose him..but I don't blame him...he saw no future with this team.....and quite frankly, me neither.

Art
04-04-2006, 05:34 PM
Yep, he might as well jump ship before it sinks. What's he gonna do? Improve? Yeah right.... He knows that his stock is higher now then it would be after four years because he can't get any better playing for Tubby surrounded by less than stellar players.

I personally would not want Rondo. I will be freakin shocked if he goes early on. Why any team would want a guard with no jumper AT ALL and that can penetrate BUT CAN'T HIT FREE THROWS. I dunno, I'm just glad he's gone. I wish we could just flush this whole team and the coach down the toilet and start over from scratch. Well, keep Morris and Bradley.:D

Kentuck
04-04-2006, 07:30 PM
I know a guy that is active in recruiting players for the NBA and he says Rondo has some of the best skills in certain areas than any other guard he's seen play in awhile. He also said it is no secret that Rondo and Tubby fought all season long about how they were playing. This decision was more about Tubby ruining players than Rondo wanting to go to the NBA.

buckchaser
04-04-2006, 07:44 PM
I could be wrong, but I don't think Tubby is too tore up over Rondo leaving. He seemed awfully content during that press conference. Good thing is a freed up scholarship. It would be nice for UK to return to the top in the near future, maybe this will be a step in the right direction, maybe not. I don't think a freed up scholarship is such a big deal. Who are you going to give it to? Any player that has any talent isn't going to want to come to UK.

cfd266
04-04-2006, 07:54 PM
I personally don't think Rondo is NBA material. He is a great ballplayer, but just doesn't have a shot to go with it. I am not a very big fan of leaving college before your junior year. I know he led the team in almost every statistical category, but who else on the team could have. I think that Rondo looked like the best player on the team because there wasn't any competition for his position. On the other hand, if I had someone telling me I would be a first round pick, don't think I wouldn't go either. Hell, I didn't think Tashaun Prince would be that great either, so go figure. GOOD LUCK TO RONDO!!!!!!!!!!

JP
04-04-2006, 08:05 PM
I personally would not want Rondo. I will be freakin shocked if he goes early on. Why any team would want a guard with no jumper AT ALL and that can penetrate BUT CAN'T HIT FREE THROWS. I dunno

I was kinda wonderin the same thing. I mean, Rondo is extremely athletic and gifted....I don't think there is any doubt in that....but even us diehards have to at some point be honest here....he really wasn't all that great....He had some potential...which I hope he finds it in the NBA...but I sure haven't seen it all, yet. sigh....I remember talking about players like the Jamal Mashburns and Sam Bowies...and worrying about if they'd leave early....now I find myself worrying about Kelenna Azubukies and Rajon Rondos. :eek:

Multidigits
04-04-2006, 08:06 PM
http://nbadraft.net/index.asp


http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/Draft/mockdraft.htm

Kentuck
04-04-2006, 08:22 PM
Don't forget, they said one of Lebron's problems was a consistent jump shot. Shooting can be improved with proper coaching and work. HHHMMMM, proper coaching?????

AteUp
04-04-2006, 08:41 PM
I believe he will be drafted in the first round based on his potential. You don't have to be an all around great player to make it for a few seasons in the NBA. Someone will give him a shot because it's a bigger risk not to take him. He has the potential. Heck, I think even Keith Bogans is still getting paid in the league to watch the ball while he dribbles.:eek: Remember that graceful way he dribbled the ball? Anybody else think bogans looks like Debo from the movie Friday?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3746.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/next_friday/_group_photos/sticky_fingaz4.jpg

Xi Bowhunter
04-04-2006, 09:04 PM
I liked rondo, and thought he was a pretty good player. I hated to see him go, and wished he didn't get an agent so he could come back if it didn't work out.

stevenvalleyagain
04-04-2006, 09:25 PM
Rondo is the best penetrating and finishing point guard in the country.Unfortunately, My 8 year old has a better shooting stroke.
THEY WILL HAVE BETTER CHEMESTRY NEXT YEAR.
I have it from a VERY reliable source (which I can't reveal) that there was a very serious problem between Rondo and Sparks, that at one time had the team completely split along racial lines.They would eat team dinners at seperate tables.Tubby had nothing to do with it. If most people only knew some of the problems there this year, they would be saying Tubby for coach of the year.

stevenvally

AteUp
04-04-2006, 09:41 PM
Rondo is the best penetrating and finishing point guard in the country.Unfortunately, My 8 year old has a better shooting stroke.
THEY WILL HAVE BETTER CHEMESTRY NEXT YEAR.
I have it from a VERY reliable source (which I can't reveal) that there was a very serious problem between Rondo and Sparks, that at one time had the team completely split along racial lines.They would eat team dinners at seperate tables.Tubby had nothing to do with it. If most people only knew some of the problems there this year, they would be saying Tubby for coach of the year.

stevenvally

I don't know, Darius Washington from Memphis is pretty bad.

lymanl3
04-04-2006, 09:46 PM
Rondo is the best penetrating and finishing point guard in the country.
stevenvally

best in the country......lol

Lyman

naturalelite
04-04-2006, 10:14 PM
Anybody else think bogans looks like Debo from the movie Friday?If you add about 100 lbs he would be dead on him. I wander if he has a bike like debo???????????Rondo good luck I wish you the best.

Art
04-04-2006, 10:17 PM
best in the country......lol

Lyman

Thats about how I feel. I can think of 10 guards right off the top of my head that I would take over Rondo...and thats only thinking off the top of my head for 2 seconds. Rondo isn't even in my top 3 in the SEC.

I too have heard a nasty rumor about Rondo and Sparks and it involves a girl.:eek:

Art
04-04-2006, 10:18 PM
I believe he will be drafted in the first round based on his potential. You don't have to be an all around great player to make it for a few seasons in the NBA. Someone will give him a shot because it's a bigger risk not to take him. He has the potential. Heck, I think even Keith Bogans is still getting paid in the league to watch the ball while he dribbles.:eek: Remember that graceful way he dribbled the ball? Anybody else think bogans looks like Debo from the movie Friday?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/basketball/nba/players/3746.jpg
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/next_friday/_group_photos/sticky_fingaz4.jpg

LOL! CRAIG IS IN TROUBLE! COME QUICK!

Art
04-05-2006, 08:50 AM
You guys think Rondo will buy his own car now?:D

lymanl3
04-05-2006, 09:07 AM
Should be able to with that big sign on bonus:rolleyes: .....overseas....

Lyman

Art
04-05-2006, 09:13 AM
Did you guys hear that? I heard something fall, oh wait a minute.....It is Rondo's stock. Looks like he's slipping down the chart on nbadraft.net as we speak.

I'll tell you what though, Rondo, Buke, and Marquis Estill would make one hell of a team for a pickup game on the blue courts at UK.

ukyager
04-05-2006, 10:25 AM
Thats about how I feel. I can think of 10 guards right off the top of my head that I would take over Rondo...and thats only thinking off the top of my head for 2 seconds. Rondo isn't even in my top 3 in the SEC.

I too have heard a nasty rumor about Rondo and Sparks and it involves a girl.:eek:

The rumor I heard was that Rondo got Sparks fiancée pregnant, but you know how rumors go. I used to get a lot of behind the scenes info when my fiancée was living on campus in her sorority house, a few of her girlfriends dated some of players, but that was a few years ago.

Multidigits
04-05-2006, 10:36 AM
And someone said they didn't have team cemistry??

KYBOY
04-05-2006, 10:41 AM
sounds like a loving family:D

KYBOY
04-05-2006, 10:44 AM
They have Rondo goin' 19th right now, only 3 spots behind Reddick:eek: We may get a supprise, wouldent that be somethin':cool: I may have to think up a good recipe for crow.

Hallal
04-05-2006, 11:13 AM
The rumor I heard was that Rondo got Sparks fiancée pregnant, but you know how rumors go. I used to get a lot of behind the scenes info when my fiancée was living on campus in her sorority house, a few of her girlfriends dated some of players, but that was a few years ago.

I heard that rumor from one of the ESPN shows. I believe it was floating around the internet for a while as well. Sparks seemed to be too fiery of a guy to put up with that BS though.

ryan hickey
04-05-2006, 11:43 AM
Should be able to with that big sign on bonus:rolleyes: .....overseas....

Lyman


for all u haters - my pm box is still empty......

Multidigits
04-05-2006, 12:26 PM
I heard that rumor from one of the ESPN shows. I believe it was floating around the internet for a while as well. Sparks seemed to be too fiery of a guy to put up with that BS though.

sounds like Sparks didn't have much to do with the decision????

Tubby says he's a top pick.......maybe 15 or so? http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060405/SPORTS03/604050477

Migth go like this.....http://probasketball.about.com/od/nbadraft/a/nbamockdraft061.htm

lymanl3
04-05-2006, 12:35 PM
for all u haters - my pm box is still empty......

Not a UK hater......I just dont think Rondo has all the skills that others perceive..and he is definitely not the premier guard in the nation.

Lyman

ryan hickey
04-05-2006, 12:46 PM
i think alot of u guys forget that rondo WAS the MVP (leading scorer, AND assists) for the usa mens under 21 team. maybe its just me but i think that type of playing environment would be more like the NBA than college. remember, there were some STUDS on that under 21 team and our guy rondo was much the best.

Multidigits
04-05-2006, 12:49 PM
Not a UK hater......I just dont think Rondo has all the skills that others perceive..and he is definitely not the premier guard in the nation.

Lyman

Guys make a living evaluating players, do you think that they are all wrong????????? I don't see any of them having him not drafted, or playing overseas, and nothing lower than 19 so far. That's making more money on one contract than most of us will make in a lifetime. Is he the greatest to play the game, hell no. Is he crap....obviously not.

ryan hickey
04-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Guys make a living elvauating players, do you think that they are all wrong????????? I don't see any of them having him not drafted, or playing overseas, and nothing lower than 19 so far. That's making more money on one contract than most of us will make in a lifetime. Is he the greatest to play the game, hell no. Is he crap....obviously not.

thank u multi. i think alot of these guys arguing about rondo's skills think they are actually smarter than guys who actually GET PAID to evaluate a college player's NBA potential!! they might be right:rolleyes: , i know alot of them are obviously smarter than tubby:rolleyes: :D

Art
04-05-2006, 01:04 PM
You guys forget that these so called "draft experts" had Morris going in the first round last year too. ;) There are PLENTY of people out there who are questioning whether or not Rondo is ready for the NBA, it's just all in what you choose to read and who you believe.

Rondo is a gamble at best. He could develope into an outstanding player, but my take is that if he only shoots 40% from the foul line and 27% from 3 and he's going pro then he needs a lot of improvement in a big damn hurry. A point guard who can't hit free throws is a not what most teams want, especially if he relies on penetration to score.

Bottom line is this. Either Rondo developes a shot, and quickly, or he will not be anything in the NBA. I don't see him "learning" to shoot all of a sudden at pre-draft camps in the next 2 months. I think it's much more likely that his stock falls then it is to rise.

lymanl3
04-05-2006, 01:05 PM
Guys make a living elvauating players, do you think that they are all wrong????????? I don't see any of them having him not drafted, or playing overseas, and nothing lower than 19 so far. That's making more money on one contract than most of us will make in a lifetime. Is he the greatest to play the game, hell no. Is he crap....obviously not.

Guess you missed the "I just dont think" in my statement. Crap, didnt say he was feces either. Overseas part was being facetious. Guys making a living at their job...well,...guess that makes them infallible....Wonder if it will be a package deal...Morris/Rondo?

Lyman

Multidigits
04-05-2006, 01:21 PM
Guess you missed the "I just dont think" in my statement. Crap, didnt say he was feces either. Overseas part was being facetious. Guys making a living at their job...well,...guess that makes them infallible....Wonder if it will be a package deal...Morris/Rondo?

Lyman

I don't see Morris having anything to do with Rondo's money? As for being wrong, anyone can. When there's a consensus of opinion among experts then it's not to often that all of them are wrong.....then again, the GM's have to listen to someone, wonder who that is?

AteUp
04-05-2006, 01:24 PM
You don't have to be a sharpshooter to feed the ball to Kobe. I'm sure he'd love to have an assist man like Rondo on his team.

Multidigits
04-05-2006, 01:36 PM
Looks like we need a pool of some sort?

Art
04-05-2006, 01:48 PM
Looks like we need a pool of some sort?

Details? I'm down.

lymanl3
04-05-2006, 01:49 PM
You don't have to be a sharpshooter to feed the ball to Kobe. I'm sure he'd love to have an assist man like Rondo on his team.

Good point..I could see that role. Multi, Morris/Ronda combo was sarcasm..Course, I didnt forsee T-shon being as productive as he has proven and we all know his impact.

Lyman

Art
04-05-2006, 01:57 PM
I think Sparks is a better passer than Rondo. They are not drafting him to pass, they are drafting him to score points. I gotta tell ya, when you look over Rondo's stats at UK they are far from impressive. The only thing that is even remotely good is his rebounds. The NBA don't need him for that. He only averaged 11 pts a game this year and I think 8 last year. I don't think that would open my eyes as an NBA scout looking at a guy who's only way to score is 5 feet in or less.

It will all come down to how he does in the pre draft camps as to where or if he goes IMO. As it stands right now, Rondo is not a NBA prospect on paper. He's a huge risk as a high first round pick.

AteUp
04-05-2006, 02:07 PM
LA Lakers starting PG Smush Parker out of Fordham's stats:

#1 Smush Parker | PG
Born: June 1, 1981
New York, NY
Height: 6-4
Weight: 180 lbs.

Age: 24
Pos: PG
College: Fordham

PPG 11.5 | APG 3.7 | SPG 1.7 MPG 34.0

Kobe Bryant stats:

#8 Kobe Bryant | SG
Next on ESPN: LAL@PHO Fri., 10:30 PM ET
Roster:
Kobe Bryant
Born: August 23, 1978
Philadelphia, PA
Height: 6-6
Weight: 220 lbs.

Age: 27
Pos: SG
Drafted: 1996, 1st round, 13th pick by Hornets

PPG 34.8 | APG 4.6 | 3P% .341

You think Kobe wants somebody to shoot the ball besides himself?

BearsBud
04-05-2006, 02:19 PM
OK, I'll give Rondo this much.....IF some team drafts him, they will do it late and put him on their developmental squad to see if they can teach him to shoot from outside the paint. If he doesn't learn, they will release him in a couple of years. Fair enough?;)

Art
04-05-2006, 02:20 PM
LA Lakers starting PG Smush Parker out of Fordham's stats:

#1 Smush Parker | PG
Born: June 1, 1981
New York, NY
Height: 6-4
Weight: 180 lbs.

Age: 24
Pos: PG
College: Fordham

PPG 11.5 | APG 3.7 | SPG 1.7 MPG 34.0

Kobe Bryant stats:

#8 Kobe Bryant | SG
Next on ESPN: LAL@PHO Fri., 10:30 PM ET
Roster:
Kobe Bryant
Born: August 23, 1978
Philadelphia, PA
Height: 6-6
Weight: 220 lbs.

Age: 27
Pos: SG
Drafted: 1996, 1st round, 13th pick by Hornets

PPG 34.8 | APG 4.6 | 3P% .341

What was Smush Parker drafted?

AteUp
04-05-2006, 02:23 PM
What was Smush Parker drafted?

Undrafted in 2002.

Art
04-05-2006, 03:21 PM
Is anyone here an ESPN insider? There is an article on their website about Rondo but you have to be an insider to view it.

KYBOY
04-05-2006, 10:22 PM
Yea I am, it just says how he is a good player ect ect and how tubby says he is one of the most ahletic players he has ever coached and how thier mock draft has him going 19th. Ive been doing some research on other mock drafts and he is picked 15th or 17th on all of them.

stevenvalleyagain
04-06-2006, 09:03 AM
I never said Rhondo was a premier guard. I can think of 4 or 5 that are allaround better ball players.BUT name me one guard who can guard him off the dribble consistantly.KEEP THINKING, YOU ARE NOT GONNA COME UP WITH MANY OR ANY NAMES.Is he NBA material???Not without a jump shot and vastly improved free throw shooting.Until he can do those, he is not NBA worthy.However, these scout are wowwed by his explosiveness with the ball.I would not draft him unless I had Shaqdaddy and MJ.
BTW, I believe the rumors are more than rumors. I use to think I kept up with whats going on with UK basketball, but the person who told me this would DEFINATELY know. I will take his word for it.

stevenvalley

ryan hickey
04-06-2006, 01:41 PM
pm box.... still empty.....:cool:

Art
04-06-2006, 04:08 PM
BUT name me one guard who can guard him off the dribble consistantly.KEEP THINKING, YOU ARE NOT GONNA COME UP WITH MANY OR ANY NAMES.
stevenvalley

There are lots of guards who can handle Rondo, the thing is they don't need to. Once he gets in the paint (which is the ONLY place he can score from) the front court is going to pick him up. Answer me this. How many time did we see Rondo get past a guard and try to take it up on a forward or a center and get his crap swatted off the court?? At least 30 times. That is what will happen to him in the NBA.

You guys give Rondo a little too much credit IMO. There were several games where he was shut down this year. There are players who you can tell are on another level night in and night out. A few nights Rondo was spectacular, many nights he was not.. To say that he over powers all other guards is inaccurate IMO. He was clearly NOT the best guard on the floor in a few SEC games.

Art
04-06-2006, 04:10 PM
pm box.... still empty.....:cool:

What do want to bet on Hickey???

stevenvalleyagain
04-06-2006, 04:38 PM
Rhondo was hardly ever the best guard on the floor. NOT DISPUTING THAT!!!I just said the scouts are enamored(did I spell that right?) with his length, speed, and ability to drive. I DO NOT THINK HE IS NBA MATERIAL.


stevenvalley

ryan hickey
04-07-2006, 09:02 AM
What do want to bet on Hickey???


that rondo goes in the first round. the way ya'll talk about him i would think that would be an easy bet for ya. i'm NOT trying to say he's isaiah thomas, just that the draft pool isn't that talented this year and that he DOES possess NBA skills.

Art
04-07-2006, 11:19 AM
that rondo goes in the first round. the way ya'll talk about him i would think that would be an easy bet for ya. i'm NOT trying to say he's isaiah thomas, just that the draft pool isn't that talented this year and that he DOES possess NBA skills.

I think there's a good chance he goes in the first round. It may really depend on how many players enter the draft between now and the end of the month. If things stay the was they are now, I think he'll go mid to late first round. If Noah and a bunch of other guys enter then Rondo will be pushed on down the list...

That said, I still think there is a chance Rondo will not hear his name called, especially if he doesn't do well in the camps. I say that because both Morris and Buke were slated to be first rounders too at one point. Buke had far better numbers and was every bit as athletic if not more so then Rondo.

All I can say is that I wouldn't want him. Not only is he suspect at many key areas of the game, he seems to have some attitude issues. I'd take Dee Brown over Rondo.

ryan hickey
04-07-2006, 11:23 AM
I think there's a good chance he goes in the first round. It may really depend on how many players enter the draft between now and the end of the month. If things stay the was they are now, I think he'll go mid to late first round. If Noah and a bunch of other guys enter then Rondo will be pushed on down the list...

That said, I still think there is a chance Rondo will not hear his name called, especially if he doesn't do well in the camps. I say that because both Morris and Buke were slated to be first rounders too at one point. Buke had far better numbers and was every bit as athletic if not more so then Rondo.

All I can say is that I wouldn't want him. Not only is he suspect at many key areas of the game, he seems to have some attitude issues. I'd take Dee Brown over Rondo.


its ok to be wrong every once in a while. ;)

pm box still empty....:)

Art
04-07-2006, 11:36 AM
its ok to be wrong every once in a while. ;)

pm box still empty....:)

Why would I bet on something as unpredictable as the draft? I'll admit ANYTHING can happen but the fact is that nobody knows what will happen until it happens.. I'm just saying that of all people, UK fans should be aware that things do not always go as planned on draft day. Even the NBA teams don't know...cough DARKO cough.

Rondo may be the #1 pick for all we know. Whoever gets him is taking a fairly big risk though IMO. They are not taking him for what he has done, but what they hope he can do.