daytona 500 comments

[ryan hickey]

where to start? oh wait, i know, how bout #20 whining after the shootout that 'somebody's gonna get killed', then wrecking 3 different guys during the race.

how bout his (stewart's) comment after the race 'he started it and i finished it.' think maybe nascar will quit protecting him now? think they may rethink their decision to discipline the #5 after stewart wrecked him too?!

how long will nascar allow the #20 to run the series?

i know i've seen enuff.:rolleyes: :confused:

[watermelon3308]

ill agree with you about stewert getting away with alot.but kyle busch is starting out just like his brother and they both got what they had coming if they are gonna play with the big dogs they need to quit acting like puppys.

[arshooter]

blah blah stewart aint near the whiner as the hendrick boys...lets see gordon johnson, busch,,and add toghether a whining roushe team thats half the field...

[ryan hickey]

blah blah stewart aint near the whiner as the hendrick boys...lets see gordon johnson, busch,,and add toghether a whining roushe team thats half the field...


dude, u watch the race? how about the interviews afterwards? didn't see any whining from the hendick crowd.


"...he started it and i finished it":cool:

[COUNTRYBOY]

I believe Stewart definitely had the car to win today but due to his temper he cost his team alot of money by not controling himself. I bet Kenseth would agree. I love alittle bumping and rubbing, that's racing, but you don't put another driver in danger.

[Art]

What respect I had for Smoke went down the toilet today. I don't care if the guy is a good driver or not. He's a whining basket case. It seems that EVERY SINGLE TIME that something goes on out there, he is involved.... And it's always someone elses fault. I wonder if he realizes that? At least Gordon was man enough to accept 50% of the blame. When was the last time Tony took the blame for anything?

I thought it was funny in the post race interview when he said that what he did to Matt K. was unintentional, then the very next sentence he admits to "getting him back and he got what he deserved".:rolleyes: I like it when Stewart wins because then we don't have to listen to his bi-polar ass blame everyone else for his stupid actions. He's just a sore loser. If he loses next week he'll probably start smacking around reporters again..:D

[Gobblergetter2.1]

I'm with Art. What little respect i had for stewart before the race deminished to nothing after it. He ruined alot of people's day. I think Gordon could have wont it if he wouldnt have been wrecked. At least he has enough balls to except 1/2 of the blame. You could obviously see all stewart had to do was back off the throttle a tiny bit, and that wreck would have never happened. They had 170 laps left, its not like it was a 1 lap shootout. After today, stewart is now my least favorite driver. I honestly got tired of hearing him whine today...

[kevhunter]

I was at the race today and got this pic of Tony Stewart after the race, I think it tells the whole story.http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/kevhunter/baby.jpg

[turk2di]

blah blah stewart aint near the whiner as the hendrick boys...lets see gordon johnson, busch,,and add toghether a whining roushe team thats half the field...
This is why i don't get involved in Nascar, religion or threads involving political candidates!

[ryan hickey]

I believe Stewart definitely had the car to win today but due to his temper he cost his team alot of money by not controling himself. I bet Kenseth would agree. I love alittle bumping and rubbing, that's racing, but you don't put another driver in danger.

the worst part is that if u ask tony's fanz they'll say " well thats just tony being tony." wonder if any of his die-hard fanz are getting tired of defending him?

[buckdroppings]

I have no problem with the way any of the guys drove. I just wish they would stop making excuses about it and stop crying over "he did it why can't I" crap.

At those speeds people are going to bump and rub. Every guy out there is going to try and take the biggest adavantage of an opportunity presented to them. If that takes a guy out so be it. That is the way the race is run sometimes.

These guys have been taking each other out for years. That is why we watch it. That is why I love NASCAR. You can't get this kind of entertainment out of any other car racing but stock cars. As the man in black said " if you ain't rubbin' the you ain't racin'"

[lab]

You could obviously see all stewart had to do was back off the throttle a tiny bit, and that wreck would have never happened.

The only problem with that is the fact that this was a restrictor plate race. If he had "backed off the throttle" to avoid the contact with Gordon, what kind of pile up would that have caused? Stewart did his fair share of complaining, but I still feel that he is one of the top three drivers on the circuit.

On a side note, do you guys feel that it is fair to the truck and Busch Series guys, for the cup drivers to be able to race in those series as well?

[ryan hickey]

The only problem with that is the fact that this was a restrictor plate race. If he had "backed off the throttle" to avoid the contact with Gordon, what kind of pile up would that have caused? Stewart did his fair share of complaining, but I still feel that he is one of the top three drivers on the circuit.

On a side note, do you guys feel that it is fair to the truck and Busch Series guys, for the cup drivers to be able to race in those series as well?


to your 2nd question - i definatley think that there ought to be some sort of cap as to how many cup drivers can compete in busch races. maybe limit it to the 5 fastest cup drivers in qualifying can race, the rest have to either sit out or let somebody else drive their car. i think that its good for the busch series to have a FEW cup drivers in the line-ups to attract fanz, but i also think too many cup drivers racing in busch races screws up the busch series points race.

as far as the gordo comment goes, EITHER one of them (as gordo stated)prolly could've avoided their mishap by being just a little more cautious. but that wasn't tony's ONLY run-in of the day. he plain wrecked matt kenseth, and he plain wrecked kyle busch - PURPOSELY. the idea of making the #5 serve a penalty for what #20 did was ludicrous (borderline unbelievable - especially since tony had been playing bumper cars all day, i mean he almost caused 'the big one' 3 separate times!!) having said that, NO DOUBT stewart is one of the most talented drivers IN THE WORLD, the man has ALL KINDS of talent, quite possibly the most in nascar - but he's also an a-hole :cool: :eek: .

i hope that nascar wakes up soon and starts disciplining him when he pulls this stuff. if they don't he will soon be bigger than the circuit - they already let him make the rules as evidenced by what happened after he started whining about 'somebody's gonna get killed out there' :confused:

[schuyler olt]

The only problem with that is the fact that this was a restrictor plate race. If he had "backed off the throttle" to avoid the contact with Gordon, what kind of pile up would that have caused? Stewart did his fair share of complaining, but I still feel that he is one of the top three drivers on the circuit.

On a side note, do you guys feel that it is fair to the truck and Busch Series guys, for the cup drivers to be able to race in those series as well?

Absolutely! Do you think the truck and Busch guys aren't looking to unseat a Nextel driver?

Stewart was aggressive, no doubt. The deal with Kenseth on the front straight merits a multi-race suspension. "Rubbing" is one thing. Punting a guy into the grass is entirely another, especially since they were close to the front. When a car gets in the grass, anything can happen--ask Michael Waltrip about the ride he took. Plus, there were about thirty cars behind them who had no dog in the fight, and it was a miracle Kenseth didn't collect a bunch of them when he went into the wall.

NASCAR needs to send the message right now that these types of fueds are off the table. Cuss each other all they want, but don't put the other drivers (and their teams) at risk because of it.

[B.G.O. of Kentucky]

Never tired of defending him, he is a 2 time champion, the best overall driver in Nascar. He does much of the same things that Sr did for years and was a hero to many for doing, but people just love to hate Tony. He didn't blame Jeffy for the wreck, and if he would have checked up, big pile up as JJ usually causes. I think he tried to block Kenseth, but he was already past him, he clipped Kenseth (which was wrong, and he was penalized for). I don't think he meant to hit Matt, it was way too big of a chance to mess up his own car, he just wanted to run him on the apron by blocking him and matt had too good of a run. Sure, Tony is a hothead, always has been, always will be. That doesn't take away the fact that he is the most talented driver out there. He was mad at Kenseth, maybe unjustly mad cause Matt didn't intend to bump Tony, but it was early in a long race to be ducking under like that. Matt made a silly move, it was an accident and Tony over reacted, but, he still finished 5th! ;)
the worst part is that if u ask tony's fanz they'll say " well thats just tony being tony." wonder if any of his die-hard fanz are getting tired of defending him?

[ryan hickey]

Never tired of defending him, he is a 2 time champion, the best overall driver in Nascar. He does much of the same things that Sr did for years and was a hero to many for doing, but people just love to hate Tony. He didn't blame Jeffy for the wreck, and if he would have checked up, big pile up as JJ usually causes. I think he tried to block Kenseth, but he was already past him, he clipped Kenseth (which was wrong, and he was penalized for). I don't think he meant to hit Matt, it was way too big of a chance to mess up his own car, he just wanted to run him on the apron by blocking him and matt had too good of a run. Sure, Tony is a hothead, always has been, always will be. That doesn't take away the fact that he is the most talented driver out there. He was mad at Kenseth, maybe unjustly mad cause Matt didn't intend to bump Tony, but it was early in a long race to be ducking under like that. Matt made a silly move, it was an accident and Tony over reacted, but, he still finished 5th! ;)


if he didn't mean to, exactly what does "he started it and i finished it" mean?

as far as comparing him to earnhardt...:confused: :rolleyes:

u ever hear dale crying "somebody's gonna get killed out here." jeez, if ironhead was still around he woulda crucified him in the media for whinin and runnin off at the mouth AGAIN. dale prolly rolls over in his grave everytime some stewart fan tries to campare the 2 of them.

stewart fanz think all u gotta do is win a few races and act like an a-hole to be earnhardt - WOW:confused:

[B.G.O. of Kentucky]

He clearly isn't Earnhardt, I wasn't implying that, I mean, he drives with the same reckless abandon that Sr. did. Sr would just as soon wreck you as let you pass him, just as Tony. But, unlike Sr, Tony does wine and cry, no question about it.

And Tony saying he finished it, was just Tony be Tony, basically spouting off. Funny thing is, according to what I have read, people who were listening to Tony's scanner when it occurred say it was a miscommunication between him and his spotter, but I guess Tony just wanted to act the bad boy. Regardless, it was a bad move on his part, it shouldn't have happened, but hate him if you will, don't slight the ability of his driving.

Oh, and Sr was the one who said Tony is a throwback driver and gave him respect for driving with the same passion as he did. The only think Tony does different is the whining and being a hypocrit this week.

if he didn't mean to, exactly what does "he started it and i finished it" mean?

as far as comparing him to earnhardt...:confused: :rolleyes:

u ever hear dale crying "somebody's gonna get killed out here." jeez, if ironhead was still around he woulda crucified him in the media for whinin and runnin off at the mouth AGAIN. dale prolly rolls over in his grave everytime some stewart fan tries to campare the 2 of them.

stewart fanz think all u gotta do is win a few races and act like an a-hole to be earnhardt - WOW:confused:

[raktrakr]

When Tony first came to cup I liked him, but as time went on and the more he won, he just got worse and worse about the whining. I beleive you can thank na$car for that.
FWIW, I wish he'd stick that old spice towel up his:eek:

[ryan hickey]

When Tony first came to cup I liked him, but as time went on and the more he won, he just got worse and worse about the whining. I beleive you can thank na$car for that.
FWIW, I wish he'd stick that old spice towel up his:eek:


hearing more and more of this from my hardcore nascar buddies. when tony first came in, i felt kinda neutral toward him. i am fully aware of the fact that SOMETIMES this kind of stuff is good for the sport, but am quickly growing tired of his antics. his fanz say 'well, he didn't have any problems with his temper the last half of last year' - thats because tony has LOTS in common with a 7 year old. long as he is winning he ain't whining. will be shocked if his antics don't continue. he's made so many enemies on the track now that it will be hard for him to find any friends out there. if i hear 'thats just tony being tony' one more time i swear i'm gonna hurl :rolleyes:

[deerslayer61]

It's good to see alot of the so called Stewart fans getting off the wagon. I'm a die hard Stewart fan and will always be. Tony was agressive at times, but that's just the nature of the beast. The reason Dale never complained is because he was the one dishing it out most of the time. Talk about a double standard. There's nothing wrong with finnishing 5th. All you band wagon jumpers see you at the end of the season, when number #20 is hoisting is third championship trophey. One race into the season and already crying like a bunch of babies. Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[Art]

. One race into the season and already crying like a bunch of babies. Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

That what I was thinking the entire race everytime Stewart got involved with someone. Hell, he was crying all last week to NASCAR and look what he does.:D

[watermelon3308]

It's good to see alot of the so called Stewart fans getting off the wagon. I'm a die hard Stewart fan and will always be. Tony was agressive at times, but that's just the nature of the beast. The reason Dale never complained is because he was the one dishing it out most of the time. Talk about a double standard. There's nothing wrong with finnishing 5th. All you band wagon jumpers see you at the end of the season, when number #20 is hoisting is third championship trophey. One race into the season and already crying like a bunch of babies. Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !i dont dislike stewert.you half to give him credit the guy can drive any kind of race car he sits in.but no one can compare him to earnhardt sr.dale was from the old school of racing.you never heard him or the waltrips or the pettys and them guys crying like the drivers of today.like dale said if you wonna race lets race if you wonna cry stay home

[ryan hickey]

It's good to see alot of the so called Stewart fans getting off the wagon. I'm a die hard Stewart fan and will always be. Tony was agressive at times, but that's just the nature of the beast. The reason Dale never complained is because he was the one dishing it out most of the time. Talk about a double standard. There's nothing wrong with finnishing 5th. All you band wagon jumpers see you at the end of the season, when number #20 is hoisting is third championship trophey. One race into the season and already crying like a bunch of babies. Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


he coulda killed kinseth by spinning him like that. its a thousand wonders he didn't get hit by oncoming traffic. tony did it cause he lost his temper, like he's done SEVERAL other times since coing to nascar. won't be long, he's gonna get drilled by nascar, they ain't gonna put up with it all year. nascar will prolly do a kevin harvick on him and park him for a week or two, thats the only thing gonna get his attention.

u talk about crying like a bunch of babies, did u see your boy after the shootout? talk about cryin like a baby...:rolleyes:

[B.G.O. of Kentucky]

That's what I'm talkin about! I agree, I think he very likely might be making it back to back. He couldn't win the first race right off the bat, if he would have, you might as well of sent everyone home and just called it a year. I think Zippy will keep his head on 1/2 way straight and he will dominate again.It's good to see alot of the so called Stewart fans getting off the wagon. I'm a die hard Stewart fan and will always be. Tony was agressive at times, but that's just the nature of the beast. The reason Dale never complained is because he was the one dishing it out most of the time. Talk about a double standard. There's nothing wrong with finnishing 5th. All you band wagon jumpers see you at the end of the season, when number #20 is hoisting is third championship trophey. One race into the season and already crying like a bunch of babies. Get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[schuyler olt]

Back in the 70s I road raced motorcycles, and there were times in the heat of competition that someone ticked me off, or I ticked somebody off. I never had someone intentionally try to make me lose control or vice versa during a race. Frankly, had I tried it, my butt would have been off the team in a heartbeat.

A few years ago I had the good fortune to drive a late model stock on a short track a couple of times. It amazed me how a tap that you could barely feel would be enough to turn you around. Based on that, Gordon's save is really incredible in my mind, as is Paul Tracey's keeping his spin out of the fence.

What Stewart did to Kenseth is mind-boggling. Leaving Kenseth out of it, it was really unfair to all the teams that were following them--it was pure luck that about a dozen cars weren't collected when he came back on the track. A bunch of guys worked a bunch of long, hard hours on those cars, and Tony didn't give a thought about all of them. If I were in one of those cars, I'd have to think long and hard about giving him any help on the track.

Joe Gibbs just about booted Tony two years ago. Something tells me Coach has had a pretty pointed talk with Smoke.

[Tom Borck]

I was a borderline Stewart fan last year, but after Sunday I don't care much for him anymore!

If he keeps doing this I think he'll find himself on the wrong end of those bumps!!

[ryan hickey]

I was a borderline Stewart fan last year, but after Sunday I don't care much for him anymore!

If he keeps doing this I think he'll find himself on the wrong end of those bumps!!


only a matter of time b4 he gets his. u think we've heard smoke cry before? wait 'til he gets a taste of his own medicine - he'll be crying like martha stewart headed to jail. personally, i can't wait:cool:

[Lamberneese]

In the end, he's actually doing what NASCAR wants, keeping butts in the seats and all of us yammering about it a week later:D. With all the dollars involved, and Home Depot, Dewalt etc. getting buttloads of FREE publicity, who is losing?
Just my take

[ryan hickey]

In the end, he's actually doing what NASCAR wants, keeping butts in the seats and all of us yammering about it a week later:D. With all the dollars involved, and Home Depot, Dewalt etc. getting buttloads of FREE publicity, who is losing?
Just my take


u hit the nail on the head here lamberneese. the problem will come (AND IT WILL HAPPEN) when tony gets benched for a week or two. we'll see how much home depot likes then:cool:

[Art]

In the end, he's actually doing what NASCAR wants, keeping butts in the seats and all of us yammering about it a week later:D. With all the dollars involved, and Home Depot, Dewalt etc. getting buttloads of FREE publicity, who is losing?
Just my take

Right on!;) :D

[watermelon3308]

nascar will not keep over looking the stupid shyt he is doing on the track just because of who he is.when he gets suspended for a week or two him and his sponsors will be crying.stewert can drive anything he sits in .but when it comes to stupidity nascar will put a stop to it.just ask kevin harvick