View Full Version : Georgia at Kentucky
hillhntr
02-15-2006, 08:36 AM
Who wants to start with the predictions? And, do you think the graded practices will actually result in a changed lineup? I've been looking around and it seems that Sims might be more noticeable. Apparently he had back problems before.
Hammer
02-15-2006, 08:42 AM
72-58 Cats
I was listening to the call in shows last night and they were interviewing Sims. He is PISSED! He said his back has not been bothering him nearly enough to keep him from playing. Sounds like it's just an excuse Tubby uses. They were giving some of Sims stats from the early season and they were more impressive then I thought. He SHOULD be playing more. He couldn't do any worse then Thomas.
As bad as UK sucks, I'll take them by 7 tonight. (I never got any love for hitting the nail on the head with my Tennessee prediction???:D ) I should have taken the bet. I'd like to see both Sims and Bradley get 35 minutes one night just to see what they can do provided they get a chance. With this season being a total flop, I don't see why Tubby wouldn't be playing the younger guys more to get them more experience for next year. Then again I don't see why Tubby does a lot of the things he does. What would it hurt, it's not like it would cause us to lose. We are already pretty good at that.
ryan hickey
02-15-2006, 09:18 AM
i'm saying uk wins this one 77-60. art, you're gonna get your wish next year after we lose sparxx. i just hope bradly dosen't set some sort of sec record for turnovers:) .
hillhntr
02-15-2006, 09:28 AM
I was listening to the call in shows last night and they were interviewing Sims. He is PISSED! He said his back has not been bothering him nearly enough to keep him from playing. Sounds like it's just an excuse Tubby uses. They were giving some of Sims stats from the early season and they were more impressive then I thought. He SHOULD be playing more. He couldn't do any worse then Thomas.
I was wondering if Sims was "hurt" much like Alleyne's academic problems. Sims looked good early on. I agree, about anybody would look better than Sheray.
i'm saying uk wins this one 77-60. art, you're gonna get your wish next year after we lose sparxx. i just hope bradly dosen't set some sort of sec record for turnovers:) .
WOW! You're gonna take UK by 17! I don't think this team could beat the Kentucky school for the deaf by 17. They play to the level of the competition too much.
Next years team won't be any better, and I doubt they could be much worse. Bradley may have some issues with turnovers, but he is a sophomore reserve who only gets limited PT. I think part of the reason for his turnovers can be explained by the fact that he plays defenders in a more of a one on one type of game. Sparks has few turnovers becuase he keeps a good distance between himself and the defender. That is why he can't drive to the basket. He has to take two steps to reach the defender and that allows the defender to stay with him. There is not one guard in the SEC that Sparks can take on the dribble so he stays away from them. It may decrease his turnovers, but it does little to help the offense either. It allows his defender to lay back and help other players whereas they need to really stay with Bradley.
Hate on Bradley all you want but no one can argue his numbers vs. minutes played. It's not for me to say if Sparks is the greatest player we've had at the point since Hawkins or not:D . I do think if you look at the stats as they compare to Bradley and adjust for minutes played then you see why I think he deserves more PT every other game when Sparky doesn't bring his game with him.. There are nights when Sparks should play 35 minutes and there are nights when he should only play 5. No matter what, you can count on Bradley getting less than 15.:confused:
IMO, I think UK would get much better if they watched a tape of the other premier guards in the country and saw how they are constantly moving w/out the ball.
Art, evidently you missed the first half of the TN game where Sparks repeatedly penetrated the TN defense........remember those 9 assists and all the dunks that Morris and others had? Yeah, he was shut down in the second half since Tubby wouldn't play him.
Yeah, sparky is slow when compared to other SEC guards, but he can penetrate and get by his defender. IMO, Tubby's "pass around the perimeter and slo-mo offense" hurts sparky.
Sparky, would do better (and others also) if the offense were more open and sped up some.
Hey, we in west ky are not forgetting your previous comment about this area not being a hot-bed of HS basketball talent.....;) Mostly, don't foget where Sparky's picture hangs........:D
K
Art, evidently you missed the first half of the TN game where Sparks repeatedly penetrated the TN defense........remember those 9 assists and all the dunks that Morris and others had? Yeah, he was shut down in the second half since Tubby wouldn't play him.
Yeah, sparky is slow when compared to other SEC guards, but he can penetrate and get by his defender. IMO, Tubby's "pass around the perimeter and slo-mo offense" hurts sparky.
Sparky, would do better (and others also) if the offense were more open and sped up some.
Hey, we in west ky are not forgetting your previous comment about this area not being a hot-bed of HS basketball talent.....;) Mostly, don't foget where Sparky's picture hangs........:D
K
I watched the Lofton show, I mean the first half. Sparky CAN penetrate under the right circumstance but he's not going to beat another guard off the dribble unless the guy trips. Getting to the basket is one thing, how you get there is another. Nobody is worried about Sparks doing a wicked crossover and taking it to the hole. The tighter he gets played, the less effective he is. Thats why I think his scoring patterns are as messed up as they are. The right defense on him can totally shut him down. You let him run free out there and he can drop 20 points on you if you are willing to let him take 18 shots.
I agree with you on the speed up part. That has been a hot topic here on the sports call in shows. One thing they were talking about last night was how the great guards ( i.e Redick) are ALWAYS moving and cutting w/out the ball. It was the opinion of most callers and former players that Sparks does not have the stamina to run like that all night and niether does Crawford. This team we have now is a far cry from the KY teams of the past that would run you to death. I just don't think we could speed up the offense any more without our guys just dying out there.
My apologies on the WKY comment. :D I was referring to the level of competition probably not being what it is in say.... BROOKLYN, NY.:D Don't worry, central KY isn't any better..;)
When are we having that fundraiser at your place?:D
ryan hickey
02-15-2006, 12:07 PM
not following whatever your reasoning is about sparxx not turning the ball over. just not sure i understand what u r trying to say. i mean, the last half of the year sparxx has brought the ball up the floor which means he has the ball alot more than the other guys. u would think that would make his to's much higher, but that's not the case
if u wanna compare number between sparxx and bradley, lets try this one. how 'bout assist to turnover ratio? gonna go out on a limb here and say that bradley's ratio is real close to 1-1 - IF he dosen't actually have more to's than assists.
ok, looked around and found this bradley has 31 to's and 31 assists (HAH, FINALLY i'm right on a prediction :o ), sparxx has 79 assists and 43 to's. seems amazing to me that a guy who plays half as much as sparxx can figure a way to turn the ball over almost as much.
OBTW, bobby perry is the worst in this category 16 assists to 31 to's.
hillhntr
02-15-2006, 12:33 PM
I just found this little story. The guy makes a good point, but can Tubby really rebuild this team in a year or so? http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9235357
Let's have the fundraiser somewhere else this year in a more central location. More can participate and less people might get lost on their way home. I may invite Sparky and let him show you how a slow guy uses his body position to get his quicker man on his hip during the crossover dribble move...as he goes by to the basket.
Finally, don't forget where Sparky's picture hangs.....:D
K
not following whatever your reasoning is about sparxx not turning the ball over. just not sure i understand what u r trying to say. i mean, the last half of the year sparxx has brought the ball up the floor which means he has the ball alot more than the other guys. u would think that would make his to's much higher, but that's not the case
if u wanna compare number between sparxx and bradley, lets try this one. how 'bout assist to turnover ratio? gonna go out on a limb here and say that bradley's ratio is real close to 1-1 - IF he dosen't actually have more to's than assists.
ok, looked around and found this bradley has 31 to's and 31 assists (HAH, FINALLY i'm right on a prediction :o ), sparxx has 79 assists and 43 to's. seems amazing to me that a guy who plays half as much as sparxx can figure a way to turn the ball over almost as much.
OBTW, bobby perry is the worst in this category 16 assists to 31 to's.
What I'm saying is that the way Sparks plays is not a style of play that will have as many turnovers. When he does try to penetrate or go one on one, I would say that he turns the ball over as much as anyone. You or me could dribble all night long 25 feet from the basket and not have any turnovers. When we start to drive to the basket and step up and make the defender commit is when we would start having problems.
I'm not saying that Sparky can't handle the ball, because he can. I'm just saying that he doesn't get aggressive with the ball like other players who can create their own shots off the dribble w/out a screen.
I know you guys want to dwell on Bradleys turnovers, BUT that's just one aspect of the game. He beats Sparks in nearly every category besides the A/TO ratio per minutes played. So what if Bradley turns it over two more times in a game then Sparky, he doesn't take 18 shots either and miss 10 of them. That and no rebounds equates to the exact same thing if not worse.
All I'm saying is that Sparks is 3/4 of the way through his senior year. We know what he's about. He plays well every other game or so. We also know that Bradley is very capable to play on the same level as Sparks on any given night. Why not play Bradley more on the nights when Sparky doesn't come to play? IMO, this is a lost season so I would rather start looking forward to next year and getting Bradley out there more. It's too late to think that this team is going to have a miracle rebirth. I think the nails are already in the coffin. With what we have left, I don't see a post season. Why not take some risk instead of sticking to what has got us where we are at. Get these guys who are gonna be back next year as much game experience playing together as we can so they don't have to spend the first 10 games next year trying to figure each other out.
Let's have the fundraiser somewhere else this year in a more central location. More can participate and less people might get lost on their way home. I may invite Sparky and let him show you how a slow guy uses his body position to get his quicker man on his hip during the crossover dribble move...as he goes by to the basket.
Finally, don't forget where Sparky's picture hangs.....:D
K
I know.. I know.. I'm just messin with you guys, I'd like to think that you guys don't take me seriously but I'm not so sure at times.
I'll play Sparky! He wouldn't be the first UK player I've played one on one. I'd say I'm at a disadvantage because he hits the court twice a day and I hit the fridge about 5 times a day. Set it up so we play when I'm 40 and he's 30!:D
Art, no I am not taking this serious.........this is fun.
BTW, if you beat Sparky, you may get your picture on the wall at Uncle Lee's too......:eek:
If Sparky and others like crawford can't run the whole game...........how did Farmer, Pelfry, and the rest of Pitino's gang run and gun so much back in the day. Yes, he rotated better, but they were in better shape then. Why? because Pitino's teams are in better physical condition......;)
K
ryan hickey
02-15-2006, 01:32 PM
Art, no I am not taking this serious.........this is fun.
BTW, if you beat Sparky, you may get your picture on the wall at Uncle Lee's too......:eek:
If Sparky and others like crawford can't run the whole game...........how did Farmer, Pelfry, and the rest of Pitino's gang run and gun so much back in the day. Yes, he rotated better, but they were in better shape then. Why? because Pitino's teams are in better physical condition......;)
K
good point, i've defended tubby alot but this is yet another area thats impossible to argue. right now i just hope they win a couple games before the season's over.
BOBCAT
02-15-2006, 01:44 PM
BTW, if you beat Sparky, you may get your picture on the wall at Uncle Lee's too......:eek:
nooooooooo!!!!!:D
Art, no I am not taking this serious.........this is fun.
BTW, if you beat Sparky, you may get your picture on the wall at Uncle Lee's too......:eek:
If Sparky and others like crawford can't run the whole game...........how did Farmer, Pelfry, and the rest of Pitino's gang run and gun so much back in the day. Yes, he rotated better, but they were in better shape then. Why? because Pitino's teams are in better physical condition......;)
K
You won't get an arguement from me on that bro. Heart and pride don't show up on the stat sheet.
At least he shouldn't wear those shorts he wore to the cookout last year in his pic.............but not too worried about art beating Sparky.........sparky would probably stuff on Art.....since he reads this forum all the time.
At least he shouldn't wear those shorts he wore to the cookout last year in his pic.............but not too worried about art beating Sparky.........sparky would probably stuff on Art.....since he reads this forum all the time.
Of all the things that could happen, that ain't one of them... The only thing I know I can do better than Sparks is jump. Most of my other skills have faded away.:D If I wear the magic shorts, Sparky would need the help of Rondo to take me!:D I wish Sparks was on here. I'd like to know the inside scoop as to what is really going on this year.
Art, do you want me to ask my uncle, Bob Watkins (sportswriter you may have heard of) ?
K
Art, do you want me to ask my uncle, Bob Watkins (sportswriter you may have heard of) ?
K
Ask him what?
The real scoop. I haven't spoken to him in a while, but he used to provide me with some really good stories.
K
The real scoop. I haven't spoken to him in a while, but he used to provide me with some really good stories.
K
Yeah, I always like to hear the inside stuff. I think we already pretty much know whats wrong these days.;)
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As bad as UK sucks, I'll take them by 7 tonight. (I never got any love for hitting the nail on the head with my Tennessee prediction???:D )
Thats 2 in a row for me boys! I need to start putting some money on it!:D
How about a long term bet on The Donovan Solution?
K
How about a long term bet on The Donovan Solution?
K
What the heck, sure. By long term do you mean before next season? There are so many "what if's" right now that I really don't know whats gonna happen.
OK, by the start of next season......100 bucks.......
K
OK, by the start of next season......100 bucks.......
K
What if they both stay put, do I win?:D
kyhunter270
02-16-2006, 01:17 AM
All this chatter has my mind spinning, Sparky, then Donovan, oh my, lets talk cook out and bottle top twisting....
All this chatter has my mind spinning, Sparky, then Donovan, oh my, lets talk cook out and bottle top twisting....
I like your idea better! Good call.:D
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