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Art
01-03-2006, 06:08 PM
Sniper shot that took out an insurgent killer from three quarters of a mile
Toby Harnden in Ramadi
(Filed: 01/01/2006)

Gazing through the telescopic sight of his M24 rifle, Staff Sgt Jim Gilliland, leader of Shadow sniper team, fixed his eye on the Iraqi insurgent who had just killed an American soldier.

His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a hospital in battle-torn Ramadi, still clasping a long-barrelled Kalashnikov. Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop, Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

A single shot hit the Iraqi in the chest and killed him instantly. It had been fired from a range of 1,250 metres, well beyond the capacity of the powerful Leupold sight, accurate to 1,000 metres.

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

"He was visible only from the waist up. It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Later that day, Staff Sgt Gilliland found out that the dead soldier was Staff Sgt Jason Benford, 30, a good friend.


The insurgent was one of between 55 and 65 he estimates that he has shot dead in less than five months, putting him within striking distance of sniper legends such as Carlos Hathcock, who recorded 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam. One of his men, Specialist Aaron Arnold, 22, of Medway, Ohio, has chalked up a similar tally.

"It was elating, but only afterwards," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, recalling the September 27 shot. "At the time, there was no high-fiving. You've got troops under fire, taking casualties and you're not thinking about anything other than finding a target and putting it down. Every shot is for the betterment of our cause."

All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69, has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's deadliest tactic.

Above the spot from which Staff Sgt Gilliland took his record shot, in a room at the top of a bombed-out observation post which is code-named Hotel and known jokingly to soldiers as the Ramadi Inn, are daubed "Kill Them All" and "Kill Like you Mean it".

On another wall are scrawled the words of Senator John McCain: "America is great not because of what she has done for herself but because of what she has done for others."

The juxtaposition of macho slogans and noble political rhetoric encapsulates the dirty, dangerous and often callous job the sniper has to carry out as an integral part of a campaign ultimately being waged to help the Iraqi people.

With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force 2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".

"We're the outsiders, the infidels," he said. "Every time somebody goes out that main gate he might not come back. It's still a running gun battle."

Highly effective though they are, he worries about the burden his snipers have to bear. "It's a very God-like role. They have the power of life and death that, if not held in check, can run out of control. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

"Every shot has to be measured against the Rules of Engagement [ROE], positive identification and proportionality."

Staff Sgt Gilliland explains that his Shadow team operates at the "borderlines" of the ROE, making snap judgements about whether a figure in the crosshairs is an insurgent or not.

"Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful of chewing tobacco. "If you have no respect for what you do you're not going to be very good or you're going to make a mistake. We try to give the benefit of the doubt.

"You've got to live with it. It's on your conscience. It's something you've got to carry away with you. And if you shoot somebody just walking down the street, then that's probably going to haunt you."

Although killing with a single shot carries an enormous cachet within the sniper world, their most successful engagements have involved the shooting a up to 10 members of a single IED team.

"The one-shot-one-kill thing is one of beauty but killing all the bad dudes is even more attractive," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, whose motto is "Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10 years" and signs off his e-mails with "silent souls make.308 holes".

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

Col John Gronski, the overall United States commander in Ramadi, said there could not be a military solution. "You could spend years putting snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it would make no difference."

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.

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ryan hickey
01-03-2006, 06:15 PM
WOW, a really cool article

trust me
01-03-2006, 07:02 PM
I sincerely hope and pray that guy was out of Iraq when that was printed. Soldiers that get that kind of publicity definitely do not want to get taken prisoner. :(

Art
01-03-2006, 08:24 PM
I sincerely hope and pray that guy was out of Iraq when that was printed. Soldiers that get that kind of publicity definitely do not want to get taken prisoner. :(

That's the truth. I hope he was long gone, but it's good to have him over there taking care of business.

Xi Bowhunter
01-03-2006, 09:18 PM
It's the call of duty, I support him for that.

keith meador
01-03-2006, 09:30 PM
I sincerely hope and pray that guy was out of Iraq when that was printed. Soldiers that get that kind of publicity definitely do not want to get taken prisoner. :(

there may still be a bounty on carlos hathcocks feather......LOL

Feedman
01-03-2006, 09:47 PM
Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful of chewing tobacco.

Sounds like one hell of a man!!!! They are doing an awesome job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nitrox28
01-03-2006, 11:10 PM
Glad he's dead, hope it hurt, welcome to hell! OUTSTANDING shot!!!!

beaver396
01-04-2006, 02:04 AM
kinda funny how that story puts a smile on your face. it would be nice if that guy broke the record.

plowboy
01-04-2006, 08:58 AM
I agree with Trustme, that kind of publicity is not good. Seems like the dang media wants the world to know everytime somebody has to crap.:(

trust me
01-04-2006, 09:10 AM
You know, a hillbilly (like this kid from Arkansas) that grew up shooting squirrels with 22s would be leaps and bounds ahead of his fellow soldiers in marksmanship. I'm willing to wager that all the snipers in that squad were trained at an early age in marksmanship and/or hunting. It would be very difficult for a young man of 18 or 20 to pick up a rifle for the first time and gain the proficiency needed for sniping.

There's a line in Band of Brothers about a hillbilly named Shifty from Virginia that was a known marksman:
"Shifty was not a good man to have mad at you when he was holding a rifle."

Art
01-04-2006, 09:28 AM
You know, a hillbilly (like this kid from Arkansas) that grew up shooting squirrels with 22s would be leaps and bounds ahead of his fellow soldiers in marksmanship. I'm willing to wager that all the snipers in that squad were trained at an early age in marksmanship and/or hunting. It would be very difficult for a young man of 18 or 20 to pick up a rifle for the first time and gain the proficiency needed for sniping.

There's a line in Band of Brothers about a hillbilly named Shifty from Virginia that was a known marksman:
"Shifty was not a good man to have mad at you when he was holding a rifle."

You would think that, but I have a family friend who never fired a gun or went hunting in his life. He became a cop a few years ago and is now the sharp shooter for Lexington SWAT. He competes nationally and does very well. Come to think of it, nearly everyone that I know in the military and law enforcement had little or no background at all as far as hunting and guns are concerned. I guess it helps to have experience, but what it really shows is that given the right instruction and the desire to do it, most anyone can.

PhilpotHunter
01-04-2006, 10:40 AM
It would be very difficult for a young man of 18 or 20 to pick up a rifle for the first time and gain the proficiency needed for sniping

That makes sense in theory, butI noticed while training on the M16 the very opposite, as any military instructor will tell you. When you have already shot a firearm before (rifle) you already THINK you know how to do it in your brain. How many of you have to think about everything your doing when your shooting your rifle? I mean actually walk yourself thru every little step? Not many because it becomes muscle memory, and even though it might work for your 30-30 the same thing doesn't work for the military rifles. Your brain already has a way of doing it and its hard to stop muscle memory.

When I learned how to fire the M16 the first thing the instructor told us was to forget ever shooting a rifle before and start from scratch. I learned new methods of breathing control, and "natural" positions that I had never heard of, and that made me a much more proficient marksman than from before. I don't shoot a rifle the same way I used to, and I'm all lot more accurate.
The only advantage this guy probably had was his discipline to move thru the woods quietly and to wait for good shots.

ryan hickey
01-04-2006, 10:45 AM
That makes sense in theory, butI noticed while training on the M16 the very opposite, as any military instructor will tell you. When you have already shot a firearm before (rifle) you already THINK you know how to do it in your brain. How many of you have to think about everything your doing when your shooting your rifle? I mean actually walk yourself thru every little step? Not many because it becomes muscle memory, and even though it might work for your 30-30 the same thing doesn't work for the military rifles.

When I learned how to fire the M16 the first thing the instructor told us was to forget ever shooting a rifle before and start from scratch.
The only advantage this guy probably had was his discipline to move thru the woods quietly and to wait for good shots.


solid point philpot, guess its easier to start them from scratch than try to break (bad?) habits that have already formed

etownhunter
01-04-2006, 04:15 PM
One shot, one kill! Who wouldnt love to have his job!

PhilpotHunter
01-04-2006, 04:25 PM
One shot, one kill! Who wouldnt love to have his job!

umm, someone that doesn't like to shoot people?:confused:

etownhunter
01-04-2006, 04:37 PM
A job as a sniper, make 1000 meter shots, take out terrorist, Id do it for my country.

PhilpotHunter
01-04-2006, 04:40 PM
to each his own
not picking on you or anything, but its one thing to say you could kill someone (even a terrorist) but it is a whole other thing to actually have to do it.

etownhunter
01-04-2006, 04:42 PM
just saying I would do it for my country. Not tryn to open another can.

PhilpotHunter
01-04-2006, 04:43 PM
just saying I would do it for my country. Not tryn to open another can.

I know, not trying to poak the bear either. Its honorable you saying you would do it for your country too.

etownhunter
01-04-2006, 04:45 PM
would make a heck of a hunter in....Africa??

etownhunter
01-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Watched a special on "Sniper School" the other day, was a great show. I could never have the classification though, eyesight not good enough. You should see how they break in the gillie suites! If any of you ever get the chance to watch it, its a good one!

kyhunter270
01-05-2006, 04:52 AM
It is a great thing to be able to raise your right hand and defend your country, it is another thing to take or make a man shot. It takes alot out of you and is something that you will never forget. He will have many thoughts down the road when he is off to himself and some will be good and others will be bad. I wish the best for him as i do all of the soldiers and airmen. They do an awful lot for awfully little.