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Multidigits
09-11-2005, 11:27 AM
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CWD turns up in West Virginia
Kentucky biologists worry about deer

By Gary Garth
Special to The Courier-Journal


The news that a roadkill deer in Hampshire County, W.Va., tested positive for chronic wasting disease has sent an uneasy ripple through Kentucky's wildlife managers and hunters.

"Certainly the deer that was found in West Virginia alarms us," said Jim Lane, a biologist who recently was named director of wildlife for the Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources. "The simple fact that it's another border state where CWD has been found (Illinois is the other one) is a concern. But we feel quite confident that we don't have it."

"It's pretty scary," said Kent Cooper, the 3rd district director for the League of Kentucky Sportsmen. "We now have it in states bordering each side of us. I hope that the deer in West Virginia will be an isolated case, but I don't think it will be."

Game managers and hunters alike fear chronic wasting disease, which has now spread into 14 states and two Canadian provinces since its discovery in a captive Colorado deer herd in 1967. The disease attacks the brain of deer and elk and is always fatal.

Paul Johansen, a wildlife biologist with the West Virginia Department of Natural Resources, said officials there regularly use roadkill deer as part of their CWD surveillance protocol. The 2˝-year-old Hampshire County buck was checked as part of that routine monitoring.

West Virginia officials received word on Sept. 2 that the deer was infected, and they immediately initiated their CWD Instant Response Plan.

"That includes determining the prevalence and distribution of the disease in West Virginia," Johansen said, adding that this will be done by increasing the number of animals tested, both through roadkills and collecting by conventional means.

He stressed said his agency is making every effort to communicate and coordinate its response plan to the public.

"We consider this a serious wildlife disease issue," he said. "But this is not the time to panic. The sky is not falling. We want to get as much factual information about the disease and the situation as we can to hunters and landowners."

West Virginia has no plans to alter its 2005-06 deer hunting seasons or regulations. However, depending on if and where other infected animals are found, Johansen didn't rule out sweeping preventive measures, including emergency management to hem in cervid ranching and baiting for deer, both of which now are legal in that state.

He declined to speculate on how CWD arrived in his state, adding that the Hampshire County deer apparently was a free-ranging animal and not part of a captive herd.

Game managers have always been uneasy about baiting and cervid ranching because deer and elk feeding in close proximity are more susceptible to the spread of disease.

"Any time you concentrate animals, whether it's baiting or feeding, you're asking for trouble," Johansen said. "(Baiting and ranching) are some of the things we'll be looking closely at."

The same two issues are on the minds of Kentucky's deer managers and hunters.

"(CWD) has been shown again and again to travel through captive cervids," Lane said. "It travels on the backs of trucks."

Precautions have been taken. In 2002 a moratorium was placed on the importation of captive cervids into Kentucky. According to the Fish and Wildlife Department, there are 88 licensed cervid ranches in the state. Animals can be moved from one ranch to another, but only by permit.

Cooper said that in light of the CWD threat, such game-farming operations put Kentucky's $409 million deer hunting industry at unnecessary risk. He said baiting probably also should be banned.

"I've never been a big fan of cervid ranching," he said. "And I won't say that I haven't dumped a bag of corn on the ground while deer hunting, but it wouldn't break my heart to have (baiting) outlawed."

State game officials have a CWD response plan should the disease be discovered in Kentucky. Lane noted that wildlife managers learn something more about how to control the disease with nearly every new outbreak. That's why the response plan is in perpetual draft form.

"There are so many unknowns about how to manage the disease that the document changes as we learn more," he said. "But if CWD were found tomorrow in Kentucky, that draft would become policy."

The first step, he said, would be educating and informing the public about what had happened and what the agency intended to do about it.

Officials then would increase the surveillance area to remove and test a percentage of the deer in the infected area. Any captive cervid operation within a 50-mile radius of where the disease was found probably would be included.

Baiting likely would be banned, at least around the CWD site.

Lane said the agency is "quite comfortable" that Kentucky is currently free of the disease. But with the recent news from West Virginia, that comfort level is waning.

For more information on the outbreak in West Virginia, go to wvdnr.gov and click on "current news." For more on CWD preventive measures in Kentucky, go to fw.ky.gov and click on "hunting," then "chronic wasting disease."

CWD AT A GLANCE

What is it?
Chronic wasting disease is a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, a fatal neurological disease that affects deer and elk. There are several forms of the disease that affect different species. These include scrapie, common in sheep and goats, and bovine spongiform encephalopathy, commonly known as mad cow disease. The TSE that affects humans is Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

Can humans be infected?
There is no evidence that it can be spread from deer and elk to humans or to domestic livestock or other animals.

What causes CWD?
Researchers aren't certain, but the most widely accepted theory points to a prion as the disease agent. A prion is a mutated protein that causes other proteins to fold abnormally, resulting in sponge-like holes in the brain. Prions are concentrated in the brain, spinal cord, lymph glands, tonsils, eyes and spleen.

What are the symptoms?
In the later stages of infection, deer and elk lose weight, salivate and urinate excessively and exhibit confused or depression-like behavior. CWD is always fatal, but animals can be infected for months or years before showing outward signs of the disease.

How is CWD transmitted between animals?
The exact method is unknown, but researchers strongly suspect it's passed through body fluids such as feces, urine and saliva. Animals that are crowded or confined have a greater chance of encountering the body fluids of other animals and therefore are more likely to become infected if the CWD prion is present.

What is the infection rate?
It varies widely. In infected areas of Colorado and Wyoming the disease occurs in less than 5 percent of wild deer populations and about 1 percent of wild elk populations. In an infected area in Nebraska, nearly 37 percent of deer, both inside and outside a fenced enclosure, had CWD. Infection rates within captive facilities can exceed 50 percent.

How are animals tested for CWD?
A microscopic examination of the brain is required. There is no live animal test.

Is it safe to hunt deer and elk in Kentucky?
State game officials say they have no reason to suspect that CWD is present in Kentucky's deer or elk herds. Normal safety and health precautions should be followed, including wearing latex gloves when field-dressing an elk or deer and not using household utensils. However, if you harvest or observe a deer or elk that appears sick or is acting abnormally, note its location and contact the Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources.

Will the Fish and Wildlife Department pay to have my deer or elk tested for CWD?
No. The department randomly selects approximately 2,500 deer annually to be tested for CWD, and it does pay for those tests.

Can I bring deer or elk meat and antlers into Kentucky if the animal has been killed in a state were CWD has been found?
The meat can be returned to Kentucky only if the quarters or other portions have no part of the spinal column or head attached or if the meat has been boned out. The following can be brought into Kentucky from a deer or elk taken from a state where CWD has been confirmed: antlers, antlers attached to a clean skull plate, a clean skull, clean upper canine teeth, the hide and a finished taxidermy product.
There are no restrictions on transporting harvested deer or elk into Kentucky from a state that is not CWD-positive.


Source: Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources

BUCKHEAVEN
09-11-2005, 05:48 PM
"(CWD) has been shown and again to travel through captive cervid," Lane said. again "It travels on the backs of trucks."


Why doesn’t Lane mention the elk imported into Kentucky and turned loose by KDFWR? The elk came from now CWD infected State in trucks?

Does anyone know how many trucks it took to transport one thousand five hundred elk from the Colorado border, Utah, and New Mexico? I wonder if Lane check and tested the back of each truck! How about pick up trucks bringing deer and elk carcass into Kentucky? KDFWR says CWD spreads through bodily fluids!



Cooper said that in light of the CWD threat, such game-farming operations put Kentucky's $409 million deer hunting industry at unnecessary risk. He said baiting probably also should be banned.



So let me understand this news release. 86 cervid farmers properly licensed to do business in Kentucky, that keep their animals behind an 8-0 fence registered in a CWD program checked multiple times a year by AG & KDFWR “are an unnecessary risk to the deer hunting industry”.

So Cooper if 86 cervid facilities are an unnecessary risk, than what are the 5000 wild elk roaming loose in Eastern Kentucky that the heard origin elk came to Kentucky from now CWD infected States? It is clear to me that a much greater risk would be the elk loose in the wilds of Kentucky.




What is the infection rate?
It varies widely. In infected areas of Colorado and Wyoming the disease occurs in less than 5 percent of wild deer populations and about 1 percent of wild elk populations. In an infected area in Nebraska, nearly 37 percent of deer, both inside and outside a fenced enclosure, had CWD. Infection rates within captive facilities can exceed 50 percent.



So KDFWR fails to mention that in Wisconsin were the deer densities are higher than Kentucky the CWD rate is .7 percent after testing 75,300 animals for 5 years. KDFWR also fails to mention that the animals in a captive facility when found to have CWD are generally immediately exterminated. So the infection rate would be zero. CWD can be totally contained within a private facility.




How is CWD transmitted between animals?
The exact method is unknown, but researchers strongly suspect it's passed through body fluids such as feces, urine and saliva. Animals that are crowded or confined have a greater chance of encountering the body fluids of other animals and therefore are more likely to become infected if the CWD prion is present.



The simple fact is that no one knows. So why has KDFWR allowed and continues to allow the use of urine, feces as a deer lure all over Kentucky if researchers strongly suspect it’s through bodily fluids like feces and urine that CWD is spread?

A person has to wonder why KDFWR allows urine and body fluids from all States even States infected with CWD to be spread all over Kentucky. A person has to wonder why KDFWR never mention the elk in the wild brought in from CWD infected States as a major risk. A person has to wonder why the cervid farmers have been targeted by KDFWR. New private cervid facilities are outlawed, the cervid industry( kentucky families) is suffering economically, but you can spread all the gallons of (deer lure) urine and feces from CWD infected States all over Kentucky.
You go figure.

Multidigits
09-11-2005, 06:31 PM
And what about semen, Lou???

Highbow
09-11-2005, 08:06 PM
COOPER has no proof that baiting spreads it, there is little fact of anything about CWD other than it causes a lot of public concern and we get no proof of how or why. Deer feed in the same fields over and over again, they piss in the areas that other deer cross, baiting only helps the health of deer and you can't prove other wise. I have ask the question about the deer urine many times but that is a subject that seems to be dodged by KDFWLR when CWD comes up. We have a huge production and sale of deer urine right in KY, should it be stopped ???? I would think about removing all brands of deer urine from all stores tomorrow if there really was any knowledge of CWD in KY.

Multidigits
09-11-2005, 08:26 PM
Cooper is Kent Cooper, Cyberhunters member, and LKS Directer for the 3rd District. He's just stating the obvious and what the current science calls for to combat the disease. There's no secret that baiting will be banned when CWD breaks out, and there's been plenty of waring to that effect for the last few years. Nathan, you know well that this has been coming for years now, so don't blame the messanger for something he didn't create.

As for urine, last I heard, there was no 100% sure connection that it can carry the prions. When or if it's made, the urine products will be banned as well. It's a given and one you can take to the bank. No game agency will take the chance.

I'm happy that the KYDFWR has a plan, and that the plan is subject to change as the science improves. At present, I don't see any need to change anything in place or to try to create panick about a possible elk/CWD connection. As much some would like to see it, the elk seem to be clean. That's a good thing, because it appears that most sprotsmen are on board with the elk project.

BUCKHEAVEN
09-11-2005, 11:25 PM
And what about semen, Lou???

Multi,
That is an easy one. It would never come into my facility or into Kentucky if I thought that semen transmits CWD. Further more when I purchase semen I purchase the semen from Non CWD infected States.
If KDFWR claims that CWD is spread through bodily fluids and they keep doing nothing about using urine and feces as deer lures,allowing importion of debone meats and hides that includes bodily fluids from CWD infected States you most conclude one of two things.
One KDFWR does not have the capacity to protect our wildlife or two CWD is not as bad as they are telling us. Which one do you think it is Multi?

Furthermore the KDFWR management procedure implemented to protect Kentucky from CWD are not consistant with maintaining the Governors Executive Order that does not allow new cervid facility permits for the last 3 years.

skin_dog1
09-12-2005, 12:24 AM
it's been in CO since 1967 and they seem to have a perfectly fine elk and deer herd. Seems to me blue tongue and other already present diseases in KY deer are just as bad. Seems like alot to do about nothing to me. Maybe I just don't get worked up easily enough, maybe I'm too optimistic, or maybe I'm just stupid, but reactions such as those of Wisconsin do nothing but alarm the public and cost millions of dollars. They've accomplished nothing in WI except kill several more B&C bucks! If baiting spread the disease it seems like the infected captive herds would all eventually die from it since they eat from the same trough. Fact is so little is known about the disease that scientist don't have a clue about it's spread, cause, incubation, or anything else for that matter. How long does it take to kill an infected animal? They don't know that either. Instead of spending so much money chasing their tails they should be concentrating on learning more about it and how it affects humans and livestock. CWD is here to stay, and is probably already in KY. Do I think it was brought in by the elk? Hell know, it's probably been here since the elk were here last time!

Hoosier5
09-12-2005, 08:04 AM
I have a good friend that is a Wildlife Biologist, and once we were discussing CWD; I asked if he thought it would spread to all States. He told me that CWD is really nothing new that it has always been around and just because it was discovered in Colorado in 1967 doesn't mean it was "developed" in 1967. CWD normally occurs when the population of cervids exceed the carring capacity of a given area. This is more prevalent in the winter time when Deer & Elk have a tendency of "Yarding Up" thus spreading the disease to other members of the herd. thus if a Deer or Elk is going to contract CWD it will be in the Winter Season when this Yarding occurs. My Friend says that CWD has always been around and as the population of Cervids expands and grows the chances of finding an animal with CWD increasses.

Taxi Mike
10-04-2005, 04:56 PM
According to the latest find in moose sounds like scientist there believe it can be spread by urine which hunters have sprayed all over the state.


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A moose killed in north-central Colorado has tested positive for chronic wasting disease, the first known case of a wild moose contracting the deadly neurological illness.

CWD is typically a disease of deer and elk. But wildlife officials have long wondered whether a moose would contract CWD because all three creatures are in the deer family.Since 2002, hunters submitted 288 moose for CWD testing in Colorado, and none was found to be carrying the disease. The Colorado Division of Wildlife required moose to be tested for CWD beginning in 2003.

"I don't think we were necessarily expecting it," said Kathi Green, disease management coordinator for the DOW. "But we felt like we needed to be looking."

The only other instance of a moose contracting the disease came in captivity. The Wyoming Game and Fish Department intentionally infected a moose with CWD to determine whether it would become ill, said Tyler Baskfield, a division spokesman.

Moose, numbering fewer than 1,300 in Colorado, are far less prevalent than deer and elk, which each number in the hundreds of thousands in the state.

The solitary social habits of moose probably provide some protection from the disease, DOW officials said.

Unlike deer and elk, moose don't form herds or social groups, and are more likely spared transmission of the disease through saliva or contact between live animals, Green said.

The infected moose was taken by an archer in Jackson County, south of Cameron Pass. It was killed in a game management unit with just two known cases of CWD-infected animals since 2002, Green said. But the area, just west of Larimer County, is adjacent to the state's northeast region, traditionally a hot spot for the disease.

The hunter submitted the animal for CWD testing on Sept. 12. Because it was the first moose to show infection, wildlife officials said they would run a second test to confirm the results. It has yet to be done.

It's not clear how the moose may have contracted the disease. Scientists are still studying transmission, but say it's likely animals pass it on through feces, urine, direct contact with infected animals or through infected animals that die in the wild and leave infectious material on the ground.

Overall, rates of infection among deer and elk have fluctuated in recent years, Green said. But the numbers haven't shown any significant changes that allow division scientists to draw conclusions about whether the disease is growing more or less prevalent in the population.

"We need more years of data before you can draw a conclusion like that," Green said.

Animals often don't show signs of CWD until late in the disease's course, when they might stumble when walking, appear emaciated or show other unusual behaviors, scientists say.

The disease has been diagnosed in wild deer and elk in 10 states and two Canadian provinces, according to the DOW. Elk in many captive herds have also been found to carry the disease.

2003: The year the Colorado Division of Wildlife began testing moose for CWD.

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