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Kenneth Gentry
02-21-2003, 02:35 PM
I just videoed a buck mount and breed a doe. The buck did not have and antlers, I saw him trail the doe across the hay field mount her three times and breed her the third time. I would not believe it but I have it on video. Has anyone else seen this happen this late in the season.[:0][:0]

P. Beyer
02-21-2003, 06:55 PM
[:D]Hmmm, I'll bet that looks weird, Two antlerless deer <i>"doing it"</i> It seems way too late to me, but then again I'm no expert, merely an observer who trys to learn all I can!

"It makes no difference whether I got anything; it has to do with how the day was spent"

Fred Bear

moosehead rollins
02-21-2003, 10:16 PM
Maybe its a florida buck....they go into rut in january.

GSP
02-21-2003, 10:20 PM
A doe will come into heat every 28 days until she is bred.

Wildcat
02-22-2003, 06:59 AM
Yep, she will come into heat every 28 days. I don't doubt you saw it happen but it is a very bad sign. There's always an odd breding going on every once in a while but if you've seen this before then there's a problem. You didn't say when you saw this but I'm thinking recently, if so and she did get breded then that herd is out of balance. A healthly herd would have finished their breding back in Nov. Think how late the fawns would be born, if they lived they would still have their spots in Dec, the chances of them making it though the winter would be very small. If the fawns are male, most of his life he would have a small rack, the minerals he takes in would be used to grow his body with lottle left over for his rack. The females, because they would be born so late, would be in their 3rd fall before they would be able to bred and be able to give live birth. Remember their first fall they would be only 2-3 months old, their sceond fall they would be only be 1 year 2-3 months old not 1 year 6-7 months old. For all we know what you saw was just a nature action and she didn't bred and nothing will come of it.

One thing, I know that most of the bucks across the state have dropped their racks and that's nature, it's time. 2003 will mark the 6th year of our QDM program at our farms and the farms around us. Yesterday I was at the farms and saw 3 different bucks that still had their racks, if it goes like last year they will not lose them until March though early April. For the past 2 years none of us (15 hunters in all the farms) have seen a buck chasing a doe in Dec, they finshed their rut in Nov.

Duster
02-22-2003, 11:12 AM
Quite a few times a doe fawn born in the spring will breed the following fall if in good health. This might be a case of a late fawn coming in estrous for the first time. The outcome of this would result in a very late fawn ( if she concieved ) and like said most likely never survive the winter.

Boss Gobbler
02-22-2003, 04:51 PM
bucks are capable of breeding year round but the does have the final say so. You know how it is[:D].

Kenneth Gentry
02-22-2003, 08:02 PM
Wildcat I saw this on Feb. 21st. We have not been taking does and have been passing all young bucks. This year I hope to take a number of does off the farm in hopes of getting a more balanced herd. We have about 300 acres but the ajoining farms have hunters who will shoot any buck. We are going to put in more food plots in the hope of keeping the bucks on the farm. I know this will not cure the problem but hope it will help.

Highbow
02-22-2003, 08:52 PM
This is not that unusual , I have known of this happening for at least the last six years in different areas. There are does who because of hunting pressure and lack of bucks and the age factors that may go this long without conception. I see late fawns almost every fall and this year saw spotted fawns in the first week on November. The so called RUT is not the only breeding period that takes place and I know of pen raised deer that are still breeding this month.