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georgia hammer
08-23-2005, 08:56 PM
How many of you use accubond bullets, and how do you like them?
Do they seem to hold together better than conventional polymer tips?
cobbhunts
08-24-2005, 01:28 PM
Getting ready to try them this weekend or next. I will let you know how it goes!
Multidigits
08-24-2005, 07:04 PM
Most controlled exspansion bullets are good now days. Some retain more weight after striking an object than others. Noslers have always been after a bullet that sheds about a third of it weight, but then drives the core through the target. Some of the other bullets will retain almost 100% of their weight. Accubond are said to hold about 60% of their initial weight. Accuracy should be fine, because Noslers always shoot about as well as any. I've had good luck with most of the best bullets except the Barnes, which never grouped very good in my guns.
aceoky
08-25-2005, 10:41 AM
What are you hunting? The reason I ask; is if it's deer; "regular cup and core bullets" are USUALLY a better choice for deer sized game(there are exceptions; e.g. shooting a mag; especially at close range, or IMHO a Nosler Partition is a good idea in a .243); but for most hunters in most situations the regular bullets work great(since they're designed with deer sized game in mind in the first place).
What I'm trying to say is: a deer isn't very large, and mainly you want rapid expansion(but not explosion as in a varmint round) :)
With that in mind; IF you want to use them, they should work fine, though you may find that they don't open up as quickly, leading to some tracking over what you'd have to do with a conventional bullet; but if trying 'em "works" for you "go for it", for deer and my choice, it's hard to beat a Hornady interlock (but I do load Nosler Partitions in my son's .243 to be certain of an exit at any angle):)
Where the premiums really "shine" IMHO is on larger game where penetration IS needed, thus making what was a "not the best choice caliber" years ago into what now is a good choice with the right premium! Of the bonded bullets the Accubond would be one of the best choices on deer; since as Multi said they retain about 60% wieght, which means they'll open quicker than the "tougher" bonded bullets(TBBC , Interbond etc. which retain 80-95% wieght and the "fail safe" which often retains 95%+ wieght)....
To put it another way; the more weight they retain(penetration) usually the less they "open up" good for bigger game(Elk,Moose,Bear,Big Hogs etc.) but not so good for deer, in most cases, but hey, that's what makes things interesting what some want/like others want something different, which keeps people in business!
Good luck on whatever you decide,
aceoky
08-25-2005, 10:45 AM
Multi; the Barnes bullets have always been "finicky" from what I've heard(which is why I've never used them, except in a ML) :D
The new triple shocks are supposed to group much better(and be less picky about distance from the lands)... not trying to "hijack" this thread, but thought you may be interested in knowing what is being said by several that love 'em and swear by them...Also they say they don't "copper foul" nearly as badly FWIW
Multidigits
08-25-2005, 10:54 AM
Multi; the Barnes bullets have always been "finicky" from what I've heard(which is why I've never used them, except in a ML) :D
The new triple shocks are supposed to group much better(and be less picky about distance from the lands)... not trying to "hijack" this thread, but thought you may be interested in knowing what is being said by several that love 'em and swear by them...Also they say they don't "copper foul" nearly as badly FWIW
Barne's make a good bullet, but you have to use them correctly, and then only use Barnes for top accuracy. That wasn't what I wanted. I ended up using a Speer Grand Slam bullet for my moose hunt and it proformed super. I've used Nosler Billistic tips for caribou, and now us the Fail Safe bullet for WTs because of the way it proforms on big deer, which is what I try to hunt for. I've also shot a lot of the Swift bullets and Sierra's for varmints. I haven't had many bad experiences with any, even the Barnes gave "acceptable accuracy" but the others were better.
aceoky
08-25-2005, 02:27 PM
Multi: I know what you mean about the Barnes!
I'm a "die hard Hornady" man myself(boxes of 100 is a "plus" too in my book) :D
From varmints to REALLY BIG game, they have them all "covered" from the V-Max to the Interbond with the interlock and the SST (also an interlock) in the middle. I think the SST is a bit tougher(perhaps much more so) than the Ballistic Tips(maybe it's the "interlock ring"?) ...
Every one I've shot was accurate(in differnent weights too) and they work great on game as well. There isn't anything that compares to killing game with a load YOU made yourself(well, when my son killed his buck with my handload that topped it......by a little) :D
And the price is "right" IMHO, (not that is a huge deal, the bullet being a small price compared to the rest of the hunt, but IF you shoot what you hunt with(as you should IMHO)then it does add up....
kyhunter270
08-31-2005, 05:03 AM
Hornadys all the way,,,,If you are confident in your weapon and shell it makes a world of difference.............:D
C.O.D.
09-01-2005, 01:57 PM
winchester... remington pretty strong as well fellas
Multidigits
09-01-2005, 02:35 PM
I've killed a few larger animals with the Win. Fail Safe bullet and it preforms well. It's very good on big whitetails and mule deer, and caribou size animals.
aceoky
09-01-2005, 03:03 PM
*I*don't really care for the new Remington CL, the older ones were very good bullets, but guess they were costing to much to manufacture? The new jackets just aren't close IMHO to the old ones, and I think they had a great product, and decided to change what was working, to save $$$(hey you gotta do what you gotta do) :D
Rarely shoot factory rounds, and they don't stock the bullets here,(though they do, Noslers,Barnes,Hornady, Speer, etc. etc.), Shipping on bullets makes no sense to me(nor does powder with the "Hazmat fees") .
Haven't shot a Winchester bullet in many years, but I hear those have changed as well, so I can't really say much about those...Those "fail safe bullets" are indeed in "league of their own" from what I've heard/read!! (though may be a bit hard for non-magnums???
deerhunter5555
09-07-2005, 07:09 PM
Winchester fail safe has performed exceptional for me in my 300 win mag for everything from large elk, mule deer and whitetails. The expansion in the elk I shot a few years back was textbook perfect after going through both shoulders and lodging just under the skin on the opposite side. VERY GOOD BULLET!
cobbhunts
09-07-2005, 10:14 PM
My uncle took my rifle out and tested the accubonds this weekend. 300 yards the 3 shot group was 2 1/2 " and the 3 shot four hundred yard group was 2 7/8 ". Pretty amazing for factory ammo! I have pictures of the target if you want me to post. I use a Burris Balistic Plex scope and love it. The rifle is a custom .270 WSM.
Here is a link:
http://www.kentuckyhunting.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17771
aceoky
09-14-2005, 01:53 PM
That's great for factory ammo IMHO!! That's also some fine shooting (more than "good enough" for what most people should be shooing!)
Best of luck with that fine looking rifle this season, hope you get Mr.Big!!!
cobbhunts
09-17-2005, 09:50 PM
Thanks I hope so too. I was really impressed with the groups. Going to shoot them again tommorow hopefully with the same result!
Auk1124
09-17-2005, 11:38 PM
Hornadys all the way,,,,If you are confident in your weapon and shell it makes a world of difference.............:D
Ain't that the truth? So much of it is psychological, it ain't funny. I've always been a Sierra fan because they make itty bitty holes on paper, so I usually turn to them first. I shoot more Sierras than anything, so they seem "better" to me. Confidence is key.
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