War Protesters

[b1jeremy]

I cant take it anymore...i have to ask how many are in favor of the war protesters outside the crawford ranch? i think that she needs to step out of her stance and take notice that their are 1800 or so others who have fallen in Iraq...she isnt the only one to have lost a son daughter husband wife...uncle aunt or just simply a friend...she obviously doesnt realize that there are lots who havent went ballistic over this...while i know that i will step on some anti war believers toes...but at this point i have no regard...i know that everyone has an opinion...i have lost a few friends/brothers from my old unit to this war...while i dont believe in the reasoning i support our boys over there...i support my commander in chief as well..that will never change...what happened to all the patriotism that was so ever present when it all started? everyone seems to push it to the back of their minds because they have their own issues...btw did any one know that about half of those men and women who serve are at or below poverty level and eligible for food stamps? but who cares right...do those antis realize that it is a choice to serve...not force? i hope that this letter will open the eyes of a few as we set out into the woods this yr...keep in mind that there has been a price...past and present...that was paid to be able to shoot our guns...we could be like england and australia and have our government dictate what we can own or not...anyway..i will part with that..anyone dissagree or whatever feel free to pm me to chat...Jeremy

[Art]

I am not in favor of them AT ALL... That lady is just a puppet of Michael Moore and a bunch of fruity hippies who are going to protest war, Bush, and republicans no matter what.. I feel sorry for her loss, but I don't think she's gonna get anywhere with this stunt.

[corndogggy]

what happened to all the patriotism that was so ever present when it all started?

Personally I think it's mostly due to the incorrect intelligence that the war was based off of. Everybody was all about it when we "knew" for sure that they were amassing all these weapons, but after those reports came out that said they were simply wrong, how can you not expect patriotism to dwindle? To continue the "let's kick their ass" attitude after these things are known is quite simply hatred. Between that and realizing that we didn't really have very good rebuild and exit strategies, how can anybody ever not wonder why we are still over there? That's not to say that I don't support the troops, it's not their decision for us to be in or out of the war, and as a whole I really like Bush, but there are still questions to be asked. That's all that this woman wants to do. I don't see how anybody can blame her, more people ought to question government (although not specifically Bush - Moore can go to hell) although I'm sure that there's a ton of liberal methods being employed that I wouldn't exactly agree with, like the threat of sitting in a field 3 miles away until somebody talks to her? WTF? Yeah that's going to intimidate the right people.

[mossyhorns]

Yep, this war has been a huge mistake. Since there is no connection between islamic terrorists and Iraq, terrorists have been pouring into iraq from all corners of the earth. Now instead of osama barack obama or whatever his name is running terrorists camps in afghanistan, he's eating dirty rice and fondling sheep in pakistan. Instead of airplanes flying into US buildings, or boat loads of explosives ramming US ships, all those terrorists that have no connection to iraq are running to iraq -- where the US military just happens to be.

Yep, this war was a mistake. It was so much better when the terrorists were coming over here and killing our defenseless civilians. Perhaps that silly worman outside the Bush ranch should ask to confer with mothers who lost sons on 911.

[skin_dog1]

Yep, this war has been a huge mistake. Since there is no connection between islamic terrorists and Iraq, terrorists have been pouring into iraq from all corners of the earth. Now instead of osama barack obama or whatever his name is running terrorists camps in afghanistan, he's eating dirty rice and fondling sheep in pakistan. Instead of airplanes flying into US buildings, or boat loads of explosives ramming US ships, all those terrorists that have no connection to iraq are running to iraq -- where the US military just happens to be.

Yep, this war was a mistake. It was so much better when the terrorists were coming over here and killing our defenseless civilians. Perhaps that silly worman outside the Bush ranch should ask to confer with mothers who lost sons on 911.Good reply mossy!

[AteUp]

Yeah, Saddam is good guy who posed no threat to the US.

[corndogggy]

Just for the record, I completely support the Afghanistan scene. Clinton should have had the balls to start that war earlier. However, we went to war with Iraq based on the "fact" that good intelligence said they were amassing WMD's and that intelligence (I think from England?) said there was a single meeting between big-wig's in the Tally-Bann and big-wigs in Iraq, making us think that Saddam and Al-Quaeda or however you spell it were in bed together, and both of those intelligence reports were false. How can anybody not wonder what's going on when our two biggest (and possibly only) reasons for going there in the first place turned out to be completely untrue?

Now, let me say, that since we ARE over there, I'm proud to see our troops kicking the hell out of some of those insurgent cowards. And also just for the record, I'm not blaming Bush whatsoever, I mean crap, when all these intelligence organizations tells him that something is going on, who is he to say that it's not true? If it were up to me, I'd vote to stay over there until the job is done, it's necessary. However, my point is that this is all secondary. Just because I agree with any current situation doesn't mean that I think we shouldn't question why we even went there in the first place, especially since the reasons we were going simply wasn't true and everybody admits that. The situation has completely changed since we have showed up. Our reasons for being there has changed, the people we are fighting has changed, the way we are fighting has changed, our exit strategy has changed, therefore my point is that logically, the level of patriotism is bound to have changed as well. Just because I like Bush and support our troops doesn't mean that I'm going to agree with every last thing that our government does. After all, they're human, and could potentially declare war based on incorrect information, or something crazy like that. ;)

[corndogggy]

Also, and I'm just curious more than anything, but at one time I heard these gung-ho people spout off about how they totally support the troops over there, and it got me wondering why those people were just hanging up signs over here or whatever, instead of doing something that would really made a huge difference, such as trying to raise money to armor their humvees? Then I got to wondering, is that even possible? I mean, if a bunch of people got together and pooled a bunch of money, would it be possible to send that for the purpose of providing armor? I have heard this come up several times, and can only assume that a lack of funds, or at least the higher-ups diverting the funds elsewhere, is preventing proper armor. I would almost say that perhaps it isn't as big of a problem as I think, but I know it is, because there is a guy that lives right down the road from me, like maybe 5 houses away, that was killed. He got caught in an ambush and some insurgents shot through the hummer's door and it went into one of his lungs, which collapsed. He made it temporarily, but the lung collapsed and he died. Armor could have prevented that. I have to see a big white cross in their front driveway every time I leave my house and can only wonder if normal citizens with screwed-up ideas such as myself could possibly impact something like this.

[corndogggy]

Heh, almost forgot about this. Check this out. My best friend got shipped to Iraq but he got stuck in Kuwait for awhile, so to pass the time they raced camels, no joke.

http://www.metropolislakeoutfitters.com/images/kevin camel.jpg

[PhilpotHunter]

I think we went to war with Iraq for the wrong reasons, and it upsets me that we were lied to.


Now on that note, this woman is disgracing the decision her son made when he VOLUNTEERED to serve his country. She is using his name to fuel this fire, and in effect all she is doing is dragging her own sons name thru the mud!


All this talk about supporting the troops, well heres your chance:
http://www.kentuckyhunting.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17880

[Art]

I think we went to war with Iraq for the wrong reasons, and it upsets me that we were lied to.


Now on that note, this woman is disgracing the decision her son made when he VOLUNTEERED to serve his country. She is using his name to fuel this fire, and in effect all she is doing is dragging her own sons name thru the mud!


All this talk about supporting the troops, well heres your chance:
http://www.kentuckyhunting.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17880

I don't think we were "lied to".. I am under the impression that war had to be approved by Congress. It's not just the idea of the President. At that time, given the info that we had to work with, the choice was made based on what we thought we knew. This intel didn't come from Bush flying over Iraq in a Cessna taking Polaroid pictures. It came from many different sources. Even John Kerry looked at the evidence and thought going to war was justified.

On the other hand, we had Clinton who was given intel about Bin laden, his terrorist camps, and told of this network IN AMERICA including Atta. As if that wasn't enough, there were several attacks on Americans the last 4 years of his term. Apparently, Clinton, Warren Christopher, and Reno didn't think that they could trust military intel enough to act on it ( as the documents that were released this week prove). As much as this must have pleased the anti-war crowd that we could just turn a blind eye and say, "peace, man" , it turned out to be a huge mistake.

So, as it turns out many, many mistakes have been made over the years. It didn't work real well for us when we chose not to get involved, and it may not be working real well now that we have. Atleast now they are fighting our military and not killing our civilians while they're at work.. That IMO is about as good as we can do in this situation. Even if Saddam had nothing to do with the terrorist, he was still an evil beast who was murdering his own people by the millions. He needed to be stopped. I get angry now when I hear people who are taking up for him. I have heard people say they feel sorry for him.. My girlfriend thinks the war is a mistake, but she can't even watch a documentary on what he did to his own people.

That proves my point, when we turn a blind eye we don't actually see reality. WHen we don't know reality, then our decisions don't make sense. When our decisions don't make sense, we protest them. Just my .02

[kycowboy]

Are boy's and girls in harm's way need our support if you support the cause or not theyhave no choice they go where they are told I was in Desert Storm did I want to go hell no but I went because that is where my commander in chief told me to go. I think we should have finished the job when we were there.

[naturalelite]

Thank you and anyone else in the military,for making it where we can sit here and discuss our opinions may it be for or against what our goverment has decided. Alot of countries don't even have that option.........I myself am for making this a safer place to live!!!!!!!!!!!

[perrymax]

I've done a little research on this woman and the whole media frenzy that's going on about this. moveon.org has been organizing this whole thing from the first time she got attention. If you don't know who moveon.org is you should. It's run by this weird sloppy Hungarian dude named George Soros. He's a super liberal, globleist, gun control multibillionare. He gave millions to John Kerry. I think Mikey Moore and a bunch of other Hollywood elitests are involved with them to. They've been using her. I believe she figured this out and that helped her decide to leave and go take care of her mother. I think it's losing alot of attention now. Philpot's right, I wouldn't think her son would approve of what's going on. These fallen heroes volunteered and were proud of what they were doing and gave the ultimate sacrifice. This media show takes away from that. From what I read the President met with her once and she was satisfied for a while and later decided that wasn't good enough.

All the terrorists have put everything they have into trying to keep Iraq democracy from succeeding for a reason. They know this would be devastating to their radical extreme Islamic world they want for everybody, us included. A minority of the bad guys are Sadam's Bathist buddies. The majority are outside Islamic terrorists. They love to see the idiots with their signs. I'm sure Al Jazera shows them constantly. They know they can't defeat our military. Only American opinion can. These idiot protesters don't kill like roadside bombs and suicide bombers but they're pretty effective weapons for the bad guys in the long run.

[buckseeker]

For those of you who "think we invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons"....I'm here to tell you that there is a TON that isn't being properly portrayed on the news! You are a damn fool if you think there were not weapons of mass destruction in Iraq....I saw some with my own two eyes! And that was just the first time I was there. Not one individual that I ever spoke to, or attempted to speak to :) , had anything good to say about Saddam or the regime. During my second trip, which included the seizure of Fallujah, we lived on one of the son's resorts. Let me tell you that it is absolutely incredible that so few people can have SO much power in such a relatively small country. I visited Babylon, and Saddam replaced bricks stamped by King Nebukanezer with bricks stamped with his own name. He built a palace that overlooked the remains of Babylon....come on, don't you see that he thought he was higher than religion!!!! If you were "with" this war around Sept. 11, when I happened to be guarding embassies in Europe and South America, but yet you are against it now.....then YOU DO NOT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. So take your yellow ribbons off of your cars and quit saying that you do! Like others in this post have said, not everyone wants to go anywhere to fight for things that they may not necessarily believe in. But the military of today is doing great and continuing to uphold traditions of the past. Look at the average age of the military today....these aren't college grads.....hell most of them are right out of high school! If you support us, then support us....not when you think it is "right." Hearing people complain about this war, which is one that can never be won, infuriates me because most people have lost sight of what we are doing over there!!

Semper Fidelis

[PhilpotHunter]

For those of you who "think we invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons"....I'm here to tell you that there is a TON that isn't being properly portrayed on the news! You are a damn fool if you think there were not weapons of mass destruction in Iraq....I saw some with my own two eyes! And that was just the first time I was there.

First off, thanks for serving.
In regard to what you said though, I couldn't just not respond. Your right about there being a ton on the news that isn't being portrayed, we live in a world with a very liberal news. But to say you saw the weapons of mass destruction with your own eyes, I don't think you could have. Here is why, if the troops found them, you can bet Bush would have let the world know about it. He has taken to much flak over them not being found.
So when you saw them, did you just forget to tell anyone? And also, to start off a debate by calling your opponent a "damn fool" isn't a very effective or intelligent strategy.

Not one individual that I ever spoke to, or attempted to speak to :) , had anything good to say about Saddam or the regime. During my second trip, which included the seizure of Fallujah, we lived on one of the son's resorts. Let me tell you that it is absolutely incredible that so few people can have SO much power in such a relatively small country. I visited Babylon, and Saddam replaced bricks stamped by King Nebukanezer with bricks stamped with his own name. He built a palace that overlooked the remains of Babylon....come on, don't you see that he thought he was higher than religion!!!!

No one said they thought he was saint, hell, no one said he was a nice guy. I agree that he was slime, and evil, and needed to go. But that isn't what we were told when we went there. The reasons for going were changed 3 times by the election! If Bush would have come out and said that Saddam was an evil man that needed to be brought down from power, would the world have accepted that as a reason for war? Nope, not when there was a war on terror going on. And the 911 commission can't seem to find any ties with Saddam and Al-Queda so don't say this is part of the war on terror. It is NOW, but it is only because we are in Iraq and have given them a place to come fight us.



If you were "with" this war around Sept. 11, when I happened to be guarding embassies in Europe and South America, but yet you are against it now.....then YOU DO NOT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. So take your yellow ribbons off of your cars and quit saying that you do!!!!!!!

I served my country, I am a brother of yours to be exact. I fly my country's flag proudly. So for you to say I don't support the troops just because I don't support the cause couldn't be farther from the truth. Ask anyone in 1st MARDIV CEB about the helmet upgrades coming out of Owensboro KY that are helping to save their lives if I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS?



Like others in this post have said, not everyone wants to go anywhere to fight for things that they may not necessarily believe in. But the military of today is doing great and continuing to uphold traditions of the past. Look at the average age of the military today....these aren't college grads.....hell most of them are right out of high school! If you support us, then support us....not when you think it is "right."

A big misconception is that if someone is in the military they automatically support the war and the cause. Well, I was in the Marines, and that is a bunch of crap! There are plenty of troops who don't agree with this war, for what ever reason. But what they do agree with is this, America. They believe in this country. That is what got them in Iraq, their love for this country. Just because someone disagrees with what this country is doing, doens't make them any less an American.

Semper Fidelis

Semper Fi devil dog. Are you still over there right now? If so my prayers will be with you. Also, if you still are over there, PM me about the helmet upgrades I was referring to earlier, I will help get one to you.

[buckseeker]

Philpot,

Thanks for your support! Let me dig around at home and see if I still have pictures...but I know what I saw! And they were reported many times. Are you aware that the invasion of Iraq earned many Marines the Presidential Unit Citation, an award that hasn't been given to a Marine unit since Vietnam! I did not reply to the others posts with intentions of debate....I'm not out to "win or lose." To an extent, I will agree that a better "reason" should have been given for the invasion of Iraq, but does it really matter now? Does it make it any less right? As far as politics during the elections...I couldn't tell you because our tank company was sitting on the edge of Fallujah, waiting to attack but we got shut down several times due to "politics." The point of my people not supporting comment was, look at how many people were all pro-war and pro-military around 9/11....different numbers now. Too many Americans are blind to the reality that this war on terror isn't going away, not any time soon....even if we did pull out of Iraq today. As a matter of fact, we aren't even fighting Iraqis...mostly foreign insurgents. We tangled with a few Chechnyans who had make shift body armor and already had human adrenaline flowing through an IV....they gave a pretty good fight to be honest. Iraq is where we take the fight to them because most of them don't have the gonads to bring it to us. Do you ever wonder, out of all the people who complain about our President and the decisions he makes...how many of those people actually voted???? I am currently in Kentucky, just moved here in late June...we got back in April. As far as helmets go, we have a new lightweight helmet and most units should have them by now. I know for a fact that it was a big issue over the past couple of years. And allow me to thank you, for those that may not be able to, for doing what you do!

[COJOMAY]

In case you haven't see it yet, go to http://www.sweetness-light.com
This website exposes all the hyprocricy of Cindy Sheehan.
She also hates Jews. Quite an intersting site. This protest of hers is not new. She's been on the "give Isreal to the Palestines," "Impeach Bush", and other such causes for a couple of years even before here son was killed.
What's beginning to bother me though is the new Iraqu constitution. If they are going to have the Islam religion control the country what freedom is there for those people? They are just as enslaved as they were before. If that's the case, I'd get our troops out of there and concentrate on Osama Bin Laden.

[corndogggy]

...most people have lost sight of what we are doing over there!!

I agree 100%. It's kind of hard not to when it seems as if our reasons for doing whatever we're doing has changed. That's great that we've toppled a vain leader who cared about himself more than his own people... but that's not why we went over there to begin with, or at least that's not what us dirty civilians were told. Anybody who believes that has lost sight themselves. We went over there because there was a seemingly immediate threat to the U.S. due to the amassing of WMD's. The excuse of "oh these people hated Saddam anyway, he was really bad to them" only surfaced after we couldn't find any new WMD's.

[PhilpotHunter]

I will agree that a better "reason" should have been given for the invasion of Iraq, but does it really matter now?

Nope, it doesn't matter one bit now. We are there, and we need to finish what we started. To leave that country now would be a disgrace to our fallen troops, and an injustice to the Iraqi people.

Glad your back in the states ok. If your ever in the Western part of the state around Owensboro let me know, I'll buy you a beer.

[stevenvalleyagain]

well, this kinda opened a whole new can of worms. While I want our boys home as soon as possible, leaving right now would be a HUGE mistake. If we left right now, a radical regime, like the Taliban, or another Sadaam would take over, and immediately, it would become one big terrorist training camp.Do these liberal airheads not think of the impact that would have.Leave now, and 9/11, might one day go down in the history books as a MINOR terrorist act on the U.S.

Just my opinion.


stevenvalley

[elkguy]

My oldest son is within about 36 hours of finishing his "Hell week" at Amphibious Recon School in Virginia. He goes to SERE school 2 days after he graduates from ARS. Then it is on to jump school at Fort Benning.

He is pretty sure that he will be assigned to the 2nd Recon Battallion, 2nd Marine Division. They are scheduled to deploy to Iraq or some other fun place next spring. With him being in Recon, there is no telling where he will go, and he may not even be able to tell me where all he goes for a while.

We are there. We are at war. Right, wrong, your fault, their fault, my fault, it does not matter now. The time for debate is over. If we "Clinton" this thing up, my kid will be fighting for a very long time. Screw the protesters. I get emotional about this and I hope I do not run into one of these protests when I am having a bad day.

I just hope Congress buys my kid a bunch of bullets, good body armor, good food, and provides plenty of air cover for my boy and his new brothers.

[PhilpotHunter]

elkguy, your boy has some of the best bullets and gear out there. Force Recon gets the best.

I'm sure your proud of him! :D Something special knowing your son is the most elite of all special forces! (screw them navy seal cry babies!!!:D )

[elkguy]

elkguy, your boy has some of the best bullets and gear out there. Force Recon gets the best.

I'm sure your proud of him! :D Something special knowing your son is the most elite of all special forces! (screw them navy seal cry babies!!!:D )


I am very pround of him and thanks. You should hear what he says about those Army Ranger pu****s. He says it to their face and they don't respond.

[buckseeker]

Elkguy,


Congrats to you and your son! I am a Staff Sergeant in the Corps and have done 2 tours in Iraq. If you, or your son, need anything don't be afraid to holler at me!!!

[elkguy]

Elkguy,


Congrats to you and your son! I am a Staff Sergeant in the Corps and have done 2 tours in Iraq. If you, or your son, need anything don't be afraid to holler at me!!!

Thanks man. I may need therapy or valium when he gets deployed. They do not send recon guys to the rear areas. I'm too young to have a kid doing this. This is the type of thing that adults should deal with.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I SALUTE YOU.

I have Marine stickers all over my car. Marine families can't have just one sticker. We have to have a whole bunch. I have noticed that Army, Navy and Air Force families don't do that.

When I finally get to see him again, he and I are going to get tattoos. His will be the logo of the 2nd Recon Battallion. The skull and crossed paddles with the words swift, silent, deadly. My tattoo will have the same logo with "Dad of" written over it.

[Highbow]

Elkguy, My heart goes out to you and the son. Someone has to do the job and he sounds as if the commitment has been made. GOD SPEED with him and a safe return home.

[GSP]

God Speed to your son Elkguy, and ALL of America's sons and daughters for a safe return.

[PhilpotHunter]

He says it to their face and they don't respond.

Usually the only ones that respond are the Navy pukes, and they only make that mistake once!:)

[COJOMAY]

I posted this earlier on Huntingforums.com but I wanted to pass it on to all of you, too.

You want to know the REAL Cindy Sheehan?
* First of all she's formed a group called the "Gold Star Families..." You'd think from the name of it it involves many families who's sons/daughters were killed in the war. Not so. There's very few members. It's a tax ruse. Nidia McCraffery a member of "Democracy Now," a Socialist organization is one of the co-founders of the "Gold Star Families" orgainzation. Here's what one website found out about her.
"McCaffrey is a co-founder with Mother Sheehan of the Gold Star Families For Iraq Peace. McCaffrey helped raise and hand deliver more than $600,000 in aid for the Iraqi "resistance" in Fallujah.

And here's a quote from Cindy Sheehan: "America has been killing people, like my sister over here says, since we first stepped on this continent. We have been responsible for death and destruction. I passed on that bullshit to my son, and my son enlisted. I’m going all over the country telling moms–this country is not worth dying for…"

If Cindy doesn't feel this country is worth dying for, get the he** out of here.
Is this not giving aid and comfort to the enemy? I thought that was an offense punishable by law. If it isn't it should be! What we have in Cindy, my friends, is another Jane Fonda and worse. Get the word out on this one.

[turk2di]

Yep, this war has been a huge mistake. Since there is no connection between islamic terrorists and Iraq, terrorists have been pouring into iraq from all corners of the earth. Now instead of osama barack obama or whatever his name is running terrorists camps in afghanistan, he's eating dirty rice and fondling sheep in pakistan. Instead of airplanes flying into US buildings, or boat loads of explosives ramming US ships, all those terrorists that have no connection to iraq are running to iraq -- where the US military just happens to be.

Yep, this war was a mistake. It was so much better when the terrorists were coming over here and killing our defenseless civilians. Perhaps that silly worman outside the Bush ranch should ask to confer with mothers who lost sons on 911.
Nicely put;) BTW-Most people are brainwashed by the Tv media!

[PhilpotHunter]

What we have in Cindy, my friends, is another Jane Fonda and worse. Get the word out on this one.

I disagree, Jane did what she did for exposure. Cindy really did lose her son, and is grieving for him. But more importantly, Cindy is a very UN-inteligent person that MoveOn.org has put out front in the lime light, and she is getting slaughtered for it. You would think that MoveOn.org could have found someone with a little more brains?:confused:

[COJOMAY]

Thought you may be interested in seeing this Philpot although I do agree with your statement.

American Legion Condemns War Protests as 'Visions of Jane Fonda'
By Randy Hall
CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor
August 24, 2005

(CNSNews.com) - Delegates to the American Legion's national convention in Honolulu, Hawaii, vowed Tuesday to use whatever means necessary to "ensure the united backing of the American people to support our troops and the global war on terrorism."

"The American Legion will stand against anyone and any group that would demoralize our troops, or worse, endanger their lives by encouraging terrorists to continue their cowardly attacks against freedom-loving peoples," said Thomas Cadmus, national commander of the 2.7-million-member organization.

While never mentioning Cindy Sheehan by name even though the "anti-war mom" has said she will soon return to Crawford, Texas, to continue her protest against President Bush and the war in Iraq, the group did point to another woman who gained fame by protesting U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

"For many of us, the visions of Jane Fonda glibly spouting anti-American messages with the North Vietnamese and protestors denouncing our own forces four decades ago is forever etched in our memories," he stated. "We must never let that happen again."

[PhilpotHunter]

I'm a proud member of the American Legion:)

[perrymax]

She won't refer to the terrorists as "terrorists." She calls them freedom fighters. That's right out of Mikey Moores playbook! The only Iraqis that are fighting us are some hardline Bath party Sunnis who are really pissed because they had it made under Saddam while everybody else in the country lived in poverty. If you tried to change anything they would put you in a chipper shredder feet first while you were alive and made your wife and kids watch. The majority of the people our troops and the Iraqi troops are fighting against are Muslim terrorists from outside Iraq, mostly Syrians. This woman is from the people's republic of California, what do you expect?

[elkguy]

My kid just called and told me that he made it through Hell week. They started with 50 guys and finished with 24. He slept 3 hours in 6 days. To celebrate the end of Hell week, those that made it had to stand in formation and sing the Marine Corps Hymn while they were getting tear gassed, smoke bombed, and flash banged with grenade simulators. My crazy kid said it was the most motivating moment of his life.

OORAH!

[PhilpotHunter]

My kid just called and told me that he made it through Hell week. They started with 50 guys and finished with 24. He slept 3 hours in 6 days. To celebrate the end of Hell week, those that made it had to stand in formation and sing the Marine Corps Hymn while they were getting tear gassed, smoke bombed, and flash banged with grenade simulators. My crazy kid said it was the most motivating moment of his life.

OORAH!

I'm beaming with pride over here for your son!!:D Congratulate him for me as soon as you see him!

[jarhedhntr]

I think the best way to put is

Don't confuse the war with the warriors.

Our warriors go regardless. We should always support them, regardless of the politics.

[buckseeker]

Outstanding elkhunter!!!Well put jarhead!