Unconcealed Carry Question

[KYHUNTER14]

I was reading the concealed carry board and it brought a question to mind. I live in the tri-state area (KY, WV,OH). I have always carried a gun in the car when I travel long distances in state. My question is, is it okay to carry an unconcealed gun across state lines? Thanks for the input. I have been told several times that it depends on the state, but I would like to know for sure. Thanks again.

[Auk1124]

In KY you can carry a gun in your glove box. I don't know about the other states, would depend on their state laws.

[skin_dog1]

Go to www.mynra.com They have a link to all the states gun laws. It's been a while so I don't know exactly where it is, but it is there. Anyway, every state is different, and alot of states don't allow unconcealed carry. If you con't know for certain it is best to unload the gun and lock it in a case in the trunk with ammo seperate. This will keep you out of trouble in most states(excluding New York and D.C. and maybe others).

[ptbrauch]

Does anyone know where I can find what the law says about that? I've heard many different stories about what is legal and what is not, but I'd like to read the regs myself on that.

[Auk1124]

Does anyone know where I can find what the law says about that? I've heard many different stories about what is legal and what is not, but I'd like to read the regs myself on that.

KRS 527.020(8):
A firearm or other deadly weapon shall not be deemed concealed on or about the person if it is located in a glove compartment, regularly installed in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer, regardless of whether said compartment is locked, unlocked, or does not have a locking mechanism. No person or organization, public or private, shall prohibit a person from keeping a firearm or ammunition, or both, or other deadly weapon in a glove compartment of a vehicle in accordance with the provisions of this subsection. Any attempt by a person or organization, public or private, to violate the provisions of this subsection may be the subject of an action for appropriate relief or for damages in a Circuit Court or District Court of competent jurisdiction.

[kycowboy]

so I work at a company that say's it is against company policy for me to have a weapon they are breaking the law

[DocHunter]

so I work at a company that say's it is against company policy for me to have a weapon they are breaking the law

It would certainly appear from the law quoted that a situation such as occurred in Oklahoma could not occur in Kentucky. It is good to know that our right to have a weapon in our vehicle at work is protected here. It does look like we need some protection for having long guns in our vehicles however.

[Art]

I was reading the concealed carry board and it brought a question to mind. I live in the tri-state area (KY, WV,OH). I have always carried a gun in the car when I travel long distances in state. My question is, is it okay to carry an unconcealed gun across state lines? Thanks for the input. I have been told several times that it depends on the state, but I would like to know for sure. Thanks again.

Yes, you can conceal in those states with no problems.. The only bordering state that does not recognize the CCDW permit is IL.

http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/conceal.htm

[Hammer]

so I work at a company that say's it is against company policy for me to have a weapon they are breaking the law

Kentucky is an at-will employment state. Your employer can fire you because you have blonde hair if they wish. You might win an unemployment case, however, if they fired you for having a handgun in your glove.

I'm also interested in the law regarding long guns. I've never thought anything about having my shotgun in the backseat. Never dreamed that was illegal?

[Eagle85]

so I work at a company that say's it is against company policy for me to have a weapon they are breaking the law

The real key to this law is section 14 of KRS 237.110 (note the BOLD section):

The owner, business or commercial lessee, or manager of a private business
enterprise, day-care center as defined in KRS 199.894 or certified or licensed family child-care home as defined in KRS 199.8982, or a health-care facility licensed under KRS Chapter 216B, except facilities renting or leasing housing, may prohibit persons holding concealed deadly weapon licenses from carrying concealed deadly weapons on the premises and may prohibit employees, not authorized by the employer, holding concealed deadly weapons licenses from carrying concealed deadly weapons on the property of the employer. If the building or the premises are open to the public, the employer or business enterprise shall post signs on or about the premises if carrying concealed weapons is prohibited. Possession of weapons, or ammunition, or both in a vehicle on the premises shall not be a criminal offense so long as the weapons, or ammunition, or both are not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises. A private but not a public employer may prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employer, but may not prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employee, except that the Justice Cabinet may prohibit an employee from carrying any weapons, or ammunition, or both other than the weapons, or ammunition, or both issued or authorized to be used by the employee of the cabinet, in a vehicle while transporting persons under the employee's supervision or jursdiction. Carrying of a concealed weapon, or ammunition, or both in a location specified in this subsection by a license holder shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial from the premises or removal from the premises, and, if an employee of an employer, disciplinary measures by the employer.

** So as long as no one knows it's there but you, nothing can be said or done about it. My company has the same rules, but I know of many CCDW license holders that leave their weapon in the glove box while at work. Your vehicle is private property and cannot be searched without a warrant (except with your consent or via probable cause statutes) even if it is sitting in the company owned parking lot.


-- Hammer, This part is for you...

** Long guns are a different story. A long gun (rifle or shotgun) are not considered by the same statutes. It is NOT illegal to carry a long gun visibly in a gun-rack, trunk, seat, or floorboard of a vehicle, even if it is loaded. To quote a paraphrase of the statutes from the Traveler's Guide to Firearm Laws of the Fifty States:

A traveler without a permit may carry loaded firearms in a vehicle if the weapons are in plain view. Kentucky allows anyone to carry a loaded handgun in a visible belt holster or on the dashboard or passenger seat of one's car. Glove compartment carry is also considered legitimate as long the compartment is of the factory-installed variety on the passenger's side. Console boxes and seat pockets are not legitimate areas for unlicensed carry. Carrying a handgun in one of these areas is the same as placing the weapon under the seat. Both modes of carry are limited to persons possessing carry licenses. Rifles and shotguns may be carried loaded and in plain view. The weapons may be secured in gun racks, gun slings, or commercial gun cases located anywhere in the vehicle except concealed about the person.

Travelers may carry loaded firearms in plain view while on foot in virtually any public area of the state. Such carry is best limited to visible belt holsters secured on one's hip. Kentucky's strong preemption law prevents this activity, as well as most others involving firearms, from being locally regulated.

** Your employer could bust you for a long gun which is visible in your parked vehicle.... :( So if you're like me and occasionally go hunting after work, put your long gun in a case, behind the seat, in the trunk, or under a blanket so it is not visible while in the company parking lot.... I carry my rifles behind the truck seat in a behind-the-seat sling or in a plastic case behind the seat. In the car, I leave it in the case and toss a blanket over it in the back seat or stow it in the trunk.

[ptbrauch]

Thanks for all the information on here. It cleared up a lot of questions I had about this topic.