Concealed Carry Permit

[Auk1124]

OK, so I'm thinking about getting a concealed carry license. Why exactly I don't know. I'm a big ol' teddy bear and I have no enemies. If anybody beaks in on me and I'm there I'll just grab a shotgun. And at 175 pounds, size 34 waist, I don't know if anything would really be "concealed" on me or not. Another factor is the cost.

But I'd still like to have it, just to exercise the right to carry concealed if I wanted to.

Just wondering if many people here have their concealed carry permits, and if they do, whether they carry every day. Also wondering whether anyone around my size carries, and if so, what kind of pistol/holster combo.

[turk2di]

Also, what do ya got to do to obtain a permit? Cost?

[Dawg]

I have had mine for quite awhile so I don't remember the exact cost, but it is worth it. Check with your local sheriffs office, they can tell you the cost and give you names of instructors in your area. As far as carring I only carry when we are having some type of function where a lot of cash is involved. Then depending on what time of year as to what I carry. If it is hot like this time of year I go with an ankle type holster, If cold weather and a coat is being worn I will just carry on my side.

[trust me]

I remember when the concealed weapons law was being considered, I called and wrote every elected official from dogcatcher to Governor lobbying to get the thing passed. When it passed, I realized that I never carry a weapon, and have no need to carry a weapon. I'm not in a dangerous neighborhood, I don't have a dangerous job, and I don't have any knuckledraggers looking for me. So I never got the permit. Even a Chiefs Special is too uncomfortable to carry if there is no need.

Anyway, I think you have to pass a background check, then find an instructor to get you through the classroom and silhouette shooting drill for a fee. I think the permit itself is $135 for 3 years but don't hold me to that. There are several instructors in my area, and they like to organized a class of 10-15 people on a Saturday and wrap it up in one day. You can check around the gunshops in your area and I'll guarantee that they can put in in touch with somebody.

As for what to carry, I would choose a Colt Govt. 45 in a pancake holster, because it works and I can hit with it. But it feels like a brick on your hip after a while. If I had to carry on a daily basis, I'd go with a Smith Airweight in a light belt holster with a jacket over it. Some of these rigs that hold them inside the pants make you practically undress to get the gun out.

[handgunner]

One of the handy things about is when you have a handgun in the truck and it is in the floorboard or something gets laid on it, your good to go. I like a small frame revolver in a pancake type holster.

[Art]

I have had mine for a few years, I can't remember the exact cost, but I think it was like $75 for the class (1 day class) and another $60 (I think) to get your license. Good for 5 years.

I personally don't see why any gun owner would not want it. Keep in mind that it covers other types of weapons as well, such as knives.. I think the main logic behind it is that "Its better to have it and not need it then it is to need it and not have it."

As far as using it, I use it all the time. I know some of you guys live in the country and feel like you don't need a gun to carry. Thats a choice everyone makes for themselves. My take on it is that there are some crazy idiots out there, with meth labs everywhere, and people doing whatever they can to get money for drugs, you just can't be too safe anymore IMO. People get shot for no reason all the time in Lexington.

I carry a Glock 27 and 29 (not at the same time:D ). You really need a compact frame to conceal. The 1911 style .45's are much to big to conceal, unless you're wearing a large coat.

[WBBP]

I have had mine for years. I carry some of the time depending on where I am at. I always have one in the vehicle.

K

[Multidigits]

I have had mine for years. I carry some of the time depending on where I am at. I always have one in the vehicle.

K

I'll be packing at the cookout, so don't try nothin:D

I guess everybody knows that the permit is for concealed carry. You can carry unconcealed anytime you want, anywhere you can get by with it at. Vehicle carry is often ruled on differently by different people as to what is concealed and what is out in the open.

[WBBP]

"I'll be packing at the cookout, so don't try nothin"

You probably need to be packin one. The problem is that several others will be packin now that they know you will be there. :eek:

[Art]

I have had mine for years. I carry some of the time depending on where I am at. I always have one in the vehicle.

K

I'm with you on that. I ALWAYS have one in my truck, but I rarely ever carry in the summer. I carry more often in the winter because it's easier the more clothes you have on, and it's dark all the time. It's hard to carry in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt.

[quackrstackr]

I got in on one of the first classes offered here after it passed. I rarely ever carry on my person anymore, just don't feel the need to.... BUT... like others have said, it is extremely nice if you carry a weapon in your vehicle at all.

You don't have to worry about where you put it if you have the permit. I also carry in a shoulder holster from time to time in the winter when I'm out knocking around and have it inside my coat while going from point A to point B.. with the permit I don't have to worry about it.

Costs you $60 to renew it every 5 years.

[JDMiller]

I've had mine since March of 2002 . Never really worried about packin one all the time on my person . I mainly got it for the vehicle . With all the meth stuff going on .... I never go up to our cabin and farm without one . Its nice to not worry where you put it when you get back to your vehicle or just keep it on your side or under your coat . Our sherrifs office offered our courses . All day in classroom then qualify at the range . Man sillouette at 20ft... not difficult at all . I qualified with a 9mm , but alot there used 22's . Interesting course materials on when you can use deadly force . Good for 5 years .

As far as one to carry all the time .... the one you can hit with . I have several pistols . My favorite is a Ruger KP95DC , I can shoot it well . I've got a 44 mag that would scare someone but I cant control it too well . A 22 auto is not a bad choice in my opinion . If you ever had to use it , even If you didnt graveyard them , I dont think they will be asking you what caliber it was . They will be wanting some medical attention .

[Gobblergetter2.1]

They should give everyone here in Ohio co. a permit for free. We have so many druggies, its unbelievable!

[gwhilikerz]

The most comfortable carry I have found is ultra-light 38 spec. 2" with a barami grip. This grip has an extension on the right side that hooks over your belt, jeans, shorts, whatever. The weapon rides mostly below your waist band with only the grips above the waist. Even a loose tee shirt worn out can conceal this outfit. Unless you know I have it on you won't notice a thing.

[kevhunter]

I have had my permit for several years now and I am glad that I do although I rarely ever carry one on my person. If you carry from state to state be sure to check the laws. Some states recognize Ky. carry permit and some dont. When I carry, I carry a Kimber Stainless Pro carry .45. Its a little bulky but if I ever needed it I am sure it would be sufficient.

[DocHunter]

I obtained my concealed carry permit as soon as I was able after the passage of the law permitting it. Fortunately, I have never had to use my weapon, or even show it, but I have been more comfortable having it on some occasions. We actually should go the route of Vermont and Alaska and recognize the fact that EVERY honest citizen should have the right to carry the means of self-defense without any permit from the state. Until then, I suppose we must be satisfied with the measure our state has passed. Next, we need to fight for national reciprocity, just like drivers licenses.
I carry a Walther PPK-S .380 in a leather holster which fits inside the front pants pocket. It is well-concealed, readily accessible, and the most comfortable concealed carry mechanism I have found. Occasionally I also use a fanny pack with a compartment built in to hold my gun. It is especially useful when vacationing.
Now it is so frustrating to travel to a state that does not reciprocate with Kentucky. Locally, we need to get to the pin-heads who post their businesses for no guns permitted. They obviously follow the idiotic PC, fear of guns lack of logic by trying to prohibit the most demonstrably honest citizens in the Commonwealth from entering their business. The postings are an insult to all of us who have obtained the concealed carry permits. And they expect those with some ill intent to obey their stupid postings. I really ignore their postings, because even if they become aware that you are carrying, all they can do is ask you to leave.
I don't recall the fee for the 5 year permit, even though I just renewed mine a few months ago. I do recall that the KSP had fallen behind in processing the renewal and they allowed you to continue to carry with the old permit and the receipt showing you had paid for the renewal. Mine came about 3-6 weeks after the old one had actually expired.

[Bowcrazy]

I was an instructor for a while when the concealed carry law first passed. The maximum amount that could be charged for the class was $75 and then the processing of the permit for three years was $60. You do not have to retake the class, but have to pay the $60 for renewal and I think they are good for 5 years. They may have went up but I don't think so.

I very rarely carry concealed. Sometimes on overnight hikes in unfamiliar territory I carry a .45 Kimber Auto. The light framed .38 Smiths and Taurus' and such are good carry guns. Also, the smaller Glocks for those who like auto loaders.

The permit is good to have as most states now have reciprocity and recognize Kentucky's system. Always be sure though, as you can get in some serious trouble in those Teddy Kennedy/John Kerry states up in the Northeast :)

[skin_dog1]

I'll be packing at the cookout, so don't try nothin:D

I guess everybody knows that the permit is for concealed carry. You can carry unconcealed anytime you want, anywhere you can get by with it at. Vehicle carry is often ruled on differently by different people as to what is concealed and what is out in the open.Multi, only place in a vehicle that a weapon may be out of sight is in the GLOVE BOX. not the door panel, center console, or under the seat. If the car is not equiped with a glove box in the normal location of a glove box then it better be in plain sight or you better have the permit.

To answer the question, I have one and I carry 90% of the time. Ofcourse it will be the 10% of the time that I need it!

[kycowboy]

just can't trust anyone now day's what happened to the good ol fist fight

[Multidigits]

Someone found out that when you have a fist fight and one of the guys has a gun, then the other guy always loses. chnaged everything from then on out.

[moreammoplz]

I just got my CCW renewed, I think it was around $70. I carry every once and a while, mostly I got it to make sure I was legal with weapons in the car. Don't take getting a permit lightly, big responsibility. You hear about people having accidents with their gun falling out of their pocket and it going off and hurting someone else. Make sure you get a good holster for your weapon.

[JP]

It should be required when you buy a pistol. Like Skin said---the only LEGAL place in a car is the glove box...unless of course you have a CCW. Don't know about you guys, but my gun has never graced my glove compartment, and one is with me always in the truck. The price listed a few times is correct. 75 for the class (some you can get for 50) and 60 for a 5 year permit.

The more people with them is better---they should issue you one when you board an airplane and we wouldn't have fools trying to take them over.

Oh, and the last I checked, I could drive all the way to Florida and still be legal with KY's CCW. Indiana is good too. But DON;T go to OHIO---I think they still don't even have a CCW there.

[DocHunter]

It should be required when you buy a pistol. Like Skin said---the only LEGAL place in a car is the glove box...unless of course you have a CCW.

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The more people with them is better---they should issue you one when you board an airplane and we wouldn't have fools trying to take them over.

Oh, and the last I checked, I could drive all the way to Florida and still be legal with KY's CCW. Indiana is good too. But DON;T go to OHIO---I think they still don't even have a CCW there.

If we weren't being held hostage by the idiotic, politically correct, left-wing, gun-haters, then all us honest people could carry guns concealed wherever we wanted to go, including airlines. If all pilots were allowed to carry weapons, then the events of 9/11/01 could not have happened. All the idiotic restrictions only affect those of us who are honest, and put us in peril because it takes away our ability to effectively defend ourselves from the bad guys.

[lymanl3]

I am sure this is a stupid question..I am too lazy to do the research! I know one cannot take concealed weapons in Fed. areas, but I go on weekend canoe trips at mammoth cave park...can I carry there?

Lyman

[Art]

I am sure this is a stupid question..I am too lazy to do the research! I know one cannot take concealed weapons in Fed. areas, but I go on weekend canoe trips at mammoth cave park...can I carry there?

Lyman

I would think so. I don't remember them saying anything about parks in the class.. I believe they are mainly talking about courts, prisons, office buildings, ect..

[billyzxcv]

Originally Posted by JP
It should be required when you buy a pistol. Like Skin said---the only LEGAL place in a car is the glove box...unless of course you have a CCW.

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The more people with them is better---they should issue you one when you board an airplane and we wouldn't have fools trying to take them over.

Oh, and the last I checked, I could drive all the way to Florida and still be legal with KY's CCW. Indiana is good too. But DON;T go to OHIO---I think they still don't even have a CCW there.


If we weren't being held hostage by the idiotic, politically correct, left-wing, gun-haters, then all us honest people could carry guns concealed wherever we wanted to go, including airlines. If all pilots were allowed to carry weapons, then the events of 9/11/01 could not have happened. All the idiotic restrictions only affect those of us who are honest, and put us in peril because it takes away our ability to effectively defend ourselves from the bad guy
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Thats about the dumbest idea i've ever heard. You may be honest, but there is no way of testing how good of a person someone is. I know plenty of people who have concealment permits, that I wouldnt trust with a potato gun. Plus im sure a terrorist would be able to get one just as easy as anyone else. Personally I enjoy getting to where im going in plane, as opposed to surviving a shoot out between you and a terrorist at 30,000 ft.

[DocHunter]

Originally Posted by JP
It should be required when you buy a pistol. Like Skin said---the only LEGAL place in a car is the glove box...unless of course you have a CCW.

........

The more people with them is better---they should issue you one when you board an airplane and we wouldn't have fools trying to take them over.

Oh, and the last I checked, I could drive all the way to Florida and still be legal with KY's CCW. Indiana is good too. But DON;T go to OHIO---I think they still don't even have a CCW there.


If we weren't being held hostage by the idiotic, politically correct, left-wing, gun-haters, then all us honest people could carry guns concealed wherever we wanted to go, including airlines. If all pilots were allowed to carry weapons, then the events of 9/11/01 could not have happened. All the idiotic restrictions only affect those of us who are honest, and put us in peril because it takes away our ability to effectively defend ourselves from the bad guy
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Thats about the dumbest idea i've ever heard. You may be honest, but there is no way of testing how good of a person someone is. I know plenty of people who have concealment permits, that I wouldnt trust with a potato gun. Plus im sure a terrorist would be able to get one just as easy as anyone else. Personally I enjoy getting to where im going in plane, as opposed to surviving a shoot out between you and a terrorist at 30,000 ft.

You don't get a concealed carry permit without a background check and a mandatory training/education course. Whatever you may think of someone who has gotten a permit, at least they have nothing in their background which prohibits them from having the permit. That is a lot more than can be said for the rest of the population boarding airplanes and using other public transportation. Also, the record of permit holders across the nation who have committed any act which justifies canceling their permit is almost non-existent. The record speaks for itself. Your emotion-based generalizations about the responsibility and possible behavior of permit holders is not justified by the record.

[Eagle85]

I would think so. I don't remember them saying anything about parks in the class.. I believe they are mainly talking about courts, prisons, office buildings, ect..


Art, the list of places you CANNOT carry concealed weapons is fairly short and can be located in KRS 237.110 through 237.136:


Police or Sherrif's office
Detention facility, prison, or jail
Courthouse that contains only courtrooms, but can carry in other parts of a courthouse
Any meeting of the General Assembly or any governing body of a county, city, or special district
Any bar or establishment licensed to dispense beer or other alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premesis that is devoted primarily for that purpose
Any elementary or secondary school facility without the consent of school authorities
Any child caring facility or day-care center, unless you are the owner
Any area of an airport where people and property are inspected
Any place FEDERAL LAW prohibits it
Any establishment that has a clearly defined "No Concealed Weapons" posting at the entrance


In short, you can carry concealed in any state or federal park as long as signs are not posted declaring it illegal. To the best of my knowledge, no such restrictions exist at any KY state park or federally owned park in KY. If I'm wrong on this, someone please let me know which ones have a prohibition.

[plowboy]

Originally Posted by JP
It should be required when you buy a pistol. Like Skin said---the only LEGAL place in a car is the glove box...unless of course you have a CCW.

........

The more people with them is better---they should issue you one when you board an airplane and we wouldn't have fools trying to take them over.

Oh, and the last I checked, I could drive all the way to Florida and still be legal with KY's CCW. Indiana is good too. But DON;T go to OHIO---I think they still don't even have a CCW there.


If we weren't being held hostage by the idiotic, politically correct, left-wing, gun-haters, then all us honest people could carry guns concealed wherever we wanted to go, including airlines. If all pilots were allowed to carry weapons, then the events of 9/11/01 could not have happened. All the idiotic restrictions only affect those of us who are honest, and put us in peril because it takes away our ability to effectively defend ourselves from the bad guy
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Thats about the dumbest idea i've ever heard. You may be honest, but there is no way of testing how good of a person someone is. I know plenty of people who have concealment permits, that I wouldnt trust with a potato gun. Plus im sure a terrorist would be able to get one just as easy as anyone else. Personally I enjoy getting to where im going in plane, as opposed to surviving a shoot out between you and a terrorist at 30,000 ft.

Sounds like you are one of those idiots who feel much safer when only the bad guys have guns. Duh

[npsdave]

Hi Guys, just a heads-up on the Mammoth Cave question.

Mammoth Cave NP is considered a Federal Reservation because the state relinquished its jurisdiction there when the Park was formed, therefore the state's Concealed Carry Permit is not valid there. The only folks allowed to carry weapons in the Park are other federal officers and state or local officers conducting official business.

Hope this helps.


Stay Safe,
Dave

[npsdave]

FYI,

Just from experience, you might want to ask about the regulations in a specific Park before going just to verifiy them. Just because there is no sign posted doesn't necessarily mean the permit is recognized. Might save a lot of heartburn later.


Stay Safe,
Dave