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Hardcase
06-09-2005, 09:14 AM
Next Commissioner? I'm hearing four possible canidates. What's everybody else hearing?
schuyler olt
06-09-2005, 11:45 AM
I don't know about the four names, but I will let you know that I received my rejection letter today. I'm disclosing this publicly soley because many of you backed me and I know that you would want to be aware of that.
Again, my sincerest thanks for all the support and encouragement--you guys are tops.
Highbow
06-09-2005, 11:51 AM
Sorry to hear that Sky, maybe some of us hurt you more than helped, sorry for their loss.
MD501
06-09-2005, 11:56 AM
a close association with jim strader hurt some of the applicants
DUOGLIDE
06-09-2005, 11:59 AM
Jon Gasset
Joe Bland
Robin Webb
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grouseguy
06-09-2005, 12:20 PM
a close association with jim strader hurt some of the applicants
Nice to see the Commission still operating in the same spiteful / vengeful manner, while continuing to disregard the best interests of the sportsmen and the resource.:mad:
BTW, I think you'll find that the 4th nominee is a fellow by the name of Hank Patton, which I am unfamiliar with personally.
I will make one direct statement on this list of nominees and that will be in opposition to Robin Webb. I grew up with and went all through school (K-12) with Robin. She is my state representative and her father Dr. Robert C. Webb is "supposedly" the commissioner that represents my district (8th). First, I believe there exists a genuine direct conflict of interest within the Commission, which includes her father, nominating her for this position, and question the ethics of the commissioners that nominated her. Secondly, I know her well personally and as a constituent, and will in no way support her bid to become Commissioner of KDFWR.
This is a sad day for sportsmen in KY.
I met Hank Patton back in 1989 while we were both Captains attending the advanced officer tank school at Ft. Knox. He seemd like a nice fellow. I actually went fishing with him at Nolin once. He seemed to be a dedicated fisherman.
Haven't seen him since then, but wasn't he over the ROTC program at Morehead?
K
Sky:
Thanks for taking the time to interview. I think you would have made a great Commissioner. I know we will see you still supporting and working for the hunters of the state.
Thanks again.
K
buckfever
06-09-2005, 12:49 PM
Kalen - Will you PM you e-mail address? Thx, Ballard
Valley Station
06-09-2005, 02:27 PM
Decision on Commissioner to be decided at Special Meeting -Tuesday, 6/14/05 ??? Any news??????
Feedman
06-09-2005, 04:28 PM
Hank Patton is a Regional Director for the National Wild Turkey Federation. He lives in Berea, Ky.
turk2di
06-09-2005, 06:52 PM
I don't know about the four names, but I will let you know that I received my rejection letter today. I'm disclosing this publicly soley because many of you backed me and I know that you would want to be aware of that.
Again, my sincerest thanks for all the support and encouragement--you guys are tops.
I be one of those supporting you. Sorry u didn't get it! But like Kalen said, we know we can count on you to continue to give us your valuable insight!
turk2di
06-09-2005, 06:53 PM
Hank Patton is a Regional Director for the National Wild Turkey Federation. He lives in Berea, Ky.
So we got two turkey guy's in the running;)
spurs
06-13-2005, 02:41 AM
Hank Patton is a very patriotic hard working individual that will support all sportsmen and Law Enforcement officers and their efforts. If he wanted the Commissioner position the sportsmen and women wouldbe hard pressed to find a more dedicated person
Hardcase
06-13-2005, 10:26 AM
What do you guys think of the other canidates?
I have known Joe Bland for years since he was a CO in Anderson County. He's always seemed to have the sportsmen interest in mind.
I've dealt with Jon in my job, but don't know a lot about him. He does seem tied to the current Administration. Godd or Bad?
leemichaelcaudill
06-14-2005, 04:37 PM
Hank is a good guy. Have goose hunted with him a few times. He was in fact over the ROTC program at Morehead a few years ago.
ksp965
06-14-2005, 05:28 PM
Hank Patton is the regional director for the eastern district of Kentucky for the NWTF. Before that he was the coordinator for the NWTF for three states in the Maryland area. He was with the Morehead Univ. ROTC program and retired from the Army as an officer. Orginally he is from the area around Beattyville or Mckee.
He is a dedicated waterfowler and all around sportsman. He has a great work ethic and lives and breathes for sportsmen. If Hank tells you something, you can take it to the bank!
Kentucky Sportsmen would be well served if he is the next commissioner.
Out of all of the people who applied, Gassett is the only one with the Paper. CO's tell me Bland has an agenda and he help a guy make Sgt. after only one year(Hmmmmmmmmm). Webb, I know nothing about. Patton, Good guy, Wonder if he would be a proxy for Bland.
ksp965
06-15-2005, 11:00 AM
The only one with the "paper"? Newspaper? Notebook paper? "Patton, good guy. Wonder if he would be a proxy for Bland?" That's BS! I could just as easily say, "I wonder if Gasset will be a 'yes' man for the commission because he works for them now". I don't say that! What I say will be this, we have the opportunity to select a new commissioner from two excellent, well quailified individuals, Gasset and Patton. The best defining difference between the two is that one has been brought up inside the department and is a product of all that brings to the table, both good and bad. The other has been a product of sportsmen organizations and is an outsider to the department and therefore independent in his thoughts and philosophies as how sportsmen and women can be best served. The question we should be asking is which can best serve the interest of us sportsmen from the position of commissioner of the DF&WR. For my money it is Hank Patton, but if it ends up being Gasset, it will be O.K., and either way we will still be better off than before.
Multidigits
06-15-2005, 12:49 PM
Anybody have a resume in more detail on Patton, other than he's a nice guy and that he's a Director for the NWTF? Specificly, how does that make him qualified for the job?
MD501
06-15-2005, 01:00 PM
i wonder if any of them actually had any idea about what they are/were getting into when they applied for the job. they cant be to smart to even want the job considering what goes with it
The only one with the "paper"? Newspaper? Notebook paper? "Patton, good guy. Wonder if he would be a proxy for Bland?" That's BS! I could just as easily say, "I wonder if Gasset will be a 'yes' man for the commission because he works for them now". I don't say that! What I say will be this, we have the opportunity to select a new commissioner from two excellent, well quailified individuals, Gasset and Patton. The best defining difference between the two is that one has been brought up inside the department and is a product of all that brings to the table, both good and bad. The other has been a product of sportsmen organizations and is an outsider to the department and therefore independent in his thoughts and philosophies as how sportsmen and women can be best served. The question we should be asking is which can best serve the interest of us sportsmen from the position of commissioner of the DF&WR. For my money it is Hank Patton, but if it ends up being Gasset, it will be O.K., and either way we will still be better off than before.
Paper(see degree) since you asked. As far as working with the Commission, I thought that is the way it is supposed to work. I think the proxy for bland is legitimate not B.S. We will not be selecting the next Commissioner the 9 member Commission will.
buckfever
06-15-2005, 04:08 PM
Paper(see degree) since you asked. As far as working with the Commission, I thought that is the way it is supposed to work. I think the proxy for bland is legitimate not B.S. We will not be selecting the next Commissioner the 9 member Commission will.
DW - Do you think that a biology degree is the most important criteria to being KDFWR Commissioner? What other qualifications do you believe are prerequisites to the office? While I certainly think an understanding of wildlife and a biology degree are important credentials, I am convinced that the next commissioner needs to have a demonstrated record of leadership and administrative/governing skills, as well as an ability to manage a $35 million department. After all, the commissioner's job is not just about setting hunting and fishing regulations, it's also about having "general supervision and control of all activities, functions, appointments, and employees of the Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources." If you view any of these things as being important, why do you think Mr. Gassett is the right man for the job?
Also, just out of curiosity, why do you think that Patton would serve as a proxy for Joe Bland? You say it's a "legitimate" concern, but what, other than the fact that he currently serves an NWTF director, would lead you to the conclusion that he wouldn't be his own man?
Multidigits
06-15-2005, 04:24 PM
What makes you think that Gassett wouldn't be the right man for the job.
Geeez, DW isn't wild about the other candidates, get over it.
buckfever
06-15-2005, 05:06 PM
What makes you think that Gassett wouldn't be the right man for the job.
Geeez, DW isn't wild about the other candidates, get over it.
Where did I even mention Mr. Gassett or comment on his ability or lack of ability?
As for DW, his comments led me to believe that he knew something about Bland and Patton that the rest of us didn't.
Dontcha worry none, Multi, I'm over it.
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turk2di
06-15-2005, 06:03 PM
What makes you think that Gassett wouldn't be the right man for the job.
Geeez, DW isn't wild about the other candidates, get over it.
I'd say being the interim Commish, he has the inside tract, wouldn't you?
DW - Do you think that a biology degree is the most important criteria to being KDFWR Commissioner? What other qualifications do you believe are prerequisites to the office? While I certainly think an understanding of wildlife and a biology degree are important credentials, I am convinced that the next commissioner needs to have a demonstrated record of leadership and administrative/governing skills, as well as an ability to manage a $35 million department. After all, the commissioner's job is not just about setting hunting and fishing regulations, it's also about having "general supervision and control of all activities, functions, appointments, and employees of the Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources." If you view any of these things as being important, why do you think Mr. Gassett is the right man for the job?
Also, just out of curiosity, why do you think that Patton would serve as a proxy for Joe Bland? You say it's a "legitimate" concern, but what, other than the fact that he currently serves an NWTF director, would lead you to the conclusion that he wouldn't be his own man? Dr. Gassett has what is IMPORTANT. 1st an understanding of the Dept. and the willingness to work with the 9 member commission. I will not try to punish the sins of the father(Bennett) for the Son(Gassett). It would be nice to have a Commissioner whom works with the Commission rather than fight them. That is the way it is supposed to be. As far as a 35 million $ budget, I would venture to say that Gassettt has way more experience than Col. Hank. And if you don't think the N.W.T.F. will have influence you need to crawl out of your shell.
spurs
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
We will all know Friday by 1800 hrs, I would think
Skipper
06-18-2005, 01:04 PM
The new Commissioner is Johnathan Gassett according to Doug Hensley, unanimous vote. :)
Skipper
creekdawgg
06-19-2005, 11:23 AM
imagine that
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