View Full Version : Rescuing the homeless from the heat??
AteUp
06-07-2005, 10:19 PM
Lots of news stories today here in Louisville about these volunteers driving around trying to get the homeless out of the heat. What the heck did our ancestors do before air conditioning? Were there volunteers riding around on horseback handing out paper fans? There were no places to get out of the heat unless you were in the shade back then. Give me a break, it's not even that hot out yet. We have become a bunch of wussies.
Lots of news stories today here in Louisville about these volunteers driving around trying to get the homeless out of the heat. What the heck did our ancestors do before air conditioning? Were there volunteers riding around on horseback handing out paper fans? There were no places to get out of the heat unless you were in the shade back then. Give me a break, it's not even that hot out yet. We have become a bunch of wussies.
Thats the truth! It was 92 on Monday and I was stranded in direct sunlight for 5 hours on a raft in the middle of the lake... It was very hot and I made the situation even worse by drinking one beer after another thus putting myself at risk for dehydration. Not one person offered to help me out..:confused: I highly recommend this to any homeless person as a means of survival as it got me through this dangerous situation.:D
Turkeyhunter5
06-07-2005, 11:34 PM
ok now this really sets me off. i do agree it wasnt hot, but you gotta think these people are homeless. how bout if you go out and sit out in this heat and all winter. id love to see YOU give up everything you got and live on the street doing what these people do. if i could help these people i would but i cant. i no i couldnt give up all my stuff. i dont think i could live.
ecmbowhunter
06-07-2005, 11:52 PM
my stepdad and i got cussed out by a homeless guy when we OFFERED him a job
Lil Gsp
06-08-2005, 12:28 AM
ok now this really sets me off. i do agree it wasnt hot, but you gotta think these people are homeless. how bout if you go out and sit out in this heat and all winter. id love to see YOU give up everything you got and live on the street doing what these people do. if i could help these people i would but i cant. i no i couldnt give up all my stuff. i dont think i could live.
I agree with Turkeyhunter5 these people dont have a choice they have to stand the heat, but yall do yall have a choice to be out there and I think its a great idea that there are people that give up there time to help the homeless. I wish I was able to give up my time for the needy as much as they did.:mad:
AteUp
06-08-2005, 12:30 AM
ok now this really sets me off. i do agree it wasnt hot, but you gotta think these people are homeless. how bout if you go out and sit out in this heat and all winter. id love to see YOU give up everything you got and live on the street doing what these people do. if i could help these people i would but i cant. i no i couldnt give up all my stuff. i dont think i could live.
Preface: I'm not against the homeless. Just don't think being out in the heat right now is a life or death situation. Save the money for winter when they really need the help.
Our ancestors had no A/C. They lived in log cabins with NO A/C! They couldn't come in out of the heat! Why is it so hard to SURVIVE in the heat today. You don't have to like the heat, but if you don't have A/C, I guess you'll manage, as most of us did growing up. (I didn't have it until I went away to college). Now I don't like not having A/C, but it's not a life or death situation.
PS: I'm not going to give everything up. I go to work to pay for what I want.
jarhedhntr
06-08-2005, 08:34 AM
Oh dear is this thread going where the president one did. I think I will just watch. Just remember, play nice or don't play at all.
6.5x55swedish
06-08-2005, 08:35 AM
Here is the deal with the homeless. I have known quite a few who where great people, but liked the hooch a little too much. Every city has shelters for them and soup kitchens and alot of them choose not to go because of the rules. (like no drinking) They had plenty of chances to straighten out before they ended up on the street. There is only so much a person or a family can do before they just have to let it go.
PhilpotHunter
06-08-2005, 09:17 AM
If you guys want to feel bad about someone getting ot yesterday, there were 7 firefighters who had heat strokes in Henderson yesterday fighting fires. Feel bad for them....
I'll feel for the homeless guys when the temp reaches about 110, thats about what it got to in the tobacco fields when I was younger.
AteUp
06-08-2005, 09:27 AM
If you guys want to feel bad about someone getting ot yesterday, there were 7 firefighters who had heat strokes in Henderson yesterday fighting fires. Feel bad for them....
I'll feel for the homeless guys when the temp reaches about 110, thats about what it got to in the tobacco fields when I was younger.
Thanks for getting it. It wasn't about the homeless, just how people act like the heat is such a big deal nowadays.
Thanks for getting it. It wasn't about the homeless, just how people act like the heat is such a big deal nowadays.
I got it too. I have nothing against homeless folks, but I fail to see how it has been hot enough to harm anyone. Just because you are homeless doesn't mean your body can't take a warm spring day as well as a non-homeless person, in fact it's quite the opposite. Cold is a different story, but I didn't see any mention of cold in the original post. Hey, it could be worse.:D At least they are not WORKING in the heat like many others HAVE to. More than likely they are sitting in the shade sippin on some Old E.
On a related note, I know a girl who was on her way to work last week here in downtown Lexington and she was running a few minutes late. A homeless guy saw that she was in a hurry and yelled at her "You better get your azz to work!!" Then he just started laughing at her.. I thought that was great.:D
ok now this really sets me off. i do agree it wasnt hot, but you gotta think these people are homeless. how bout if you go out and sit out in this heat and all winter. id love to see YOU give up everything you got and live on the street doing what these people do. if i could help these people i would but i cant. i no i couldnt give up all my stuff. i dont think i could live.
Just curious as to why you "can't" help homeless people?
AteUp
06-08-2005, 10:03 AM
On a related note, I know a girl who was on her way to work last week here in downtown Lexington and she was running a few minutes late. A homeless guy saw that she was in a hurry and yelled at her "You better get your azz to work!!" Then he just started laughing at her.. I thought that was great.:D
That's some funny stuff right there!:D
trust me
06-08-2005, 10:47 AM
The people that are at risk in warm weather are the ones that have heart or lung ailments that make breathing difficult anyway. That could be the homeless guy at the intersection, or it could be grandma in her comfortable house when the A/C breaks down. If the homeless are suffering right now, when it is in the high 80's or low 90's then they are reallly in trouble come August.
Homelessness is not an illness. It usually is a result of alcoholism, and I don't think that is an illness either. Mental illness results in homelessness, and that truly is an illness.
Back when I grew up, we called these people vagrants, slapped them in the jailhouse and gave them 3 hots and a cot. That kept them safe and warm and away from the hooch for a few days. I was a kid and worked with a guy that got out of the drunk tank and owned nothing but a suitcase with a set of clothes and 25 bucks somebody gave him. He took that and his military pension and turned his life around, just by getting off booze. When he died, he was working, had a car and apartment, and was back in touch with the kids and grandkids after many years. He drank away 40 years, but pulled it together in the end.
Multidigits
06-08-2005, 11:02 AM
Might be more productive to drive them to McDonalds and help them fill out a application for a job. They get in a cool enviroment, a nice hat and some clean clothes to wear, plus they'll be on their way to fixing the real problem.
Might be more productive to drive them to McDonalds and help them fill out a application for a job. They get in a cool enviroment, a nice hat and some clean clothes to wear, plus they'll be on their way to fixing the real problem.
Thats a good idea, but it won't work.:D I've met many homeless people over the years, and I have to agree that most of them are in that posistion for a reason. It usually involves booze or drugs. 95% of them will not take a job if they are given one, because their life has become the addiction and that is ALL they care about. I can tell you that on the coldest nights of the winter, if you give any homeless person $50 for a motel room, a meal, and a hot shower, they will not use it for that. I know this because I have seen this.
Sure, some of you can sit back and whine about how helpless they are and how we need to do this and that, but until you have actually been involved with them and their situation, you just don't know what you're talking about.
ky_copenhagen
06-08-2005, 01:36 PM
I'm not sure why everyone complains about homeless guys spending the money they get on beer...after all thats what I'm using it for.:D
quackrstackr
06-08-2005, 01:41 PM
I'll feel for the homeless guys when the temp reaches about 110, thats about what it got to in the tobacco fields when I was younger.
Ain't that the truth. Get their behinds out in a tobacco patch in August to earn some $ and then they may have a legit complaint about the heat.
Farmers hire Mexicans every day to do jobs these homeless people could do if they actually wanted to start turning their life around.
All they want is a free ride on the way to their next fix 99.9% of the time.
PhilpotHunter
06-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Its funny. The politicians say that "immigrant workers do the work that Americans won't do because Americans feel they are above that kind of work"
Well thats BS. Put our youth out in the fields for a couple summers and they will be begging for a job at McDonalds! Show them some work ethic.
Auk1124
06-08-2005, 02:54 PM
The heat is a big deal if you are elderly and/or ill. I'd imagine it killed a lot of people back then too, or it would have if they weren't already dead due to something else.
On the subject of the good ol days, my grandfather was born in the 19th Century, and whenever anyone used to mention the good ol days, he would just smile and tell them that he lived through all those good ol days, and he didn't remember em being that good. A very honest and wise man was my grandfather.
ky_horsetrainer
06-08-2005, 02:56 PM
Well thats BS. Put our youth out in the fields for a couple summers and they will be begging for a job at McDonalds! Show them some work ethic.
I have always worked outside in tobacco fields and hays, even my early day in tx was spent outside and you could hardly pay me enough to work inside let alone at McDonald's lol
I dont mind the heat much
Mexicans can out work about anyone I know and have a much better attatude about the work then alot of white workers
Mexicans can out work about anyone I know and have a much better attatude about the work then alot of white workers
You got that right!
PhilpotHunter
06-08-2005, 03:31 PM
Mexicans can out work about anyone I know and have a much better attatude about the work then alot of white workers
I agree 100%
quackrstackr
06-08-2005, 03:36 PM
They'll do it until they become "Americanized" and then they head south in a hurry. Takes them about 3 or 4 years.
We had around 10 Mexicans and Cubans we kept on pretty much year round when I was messing in tobacco.
The older ones pretty well stayed the course but the younger ones were useless after a few years and you had to weed out the crew.
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