"Bush is a prick"

[Turkeyhunter5]

Ok, as i have once said "i dont like bush". I could carless for the man. You guys say he is the one giving us freedom, your wrong. those men and women that are in iraq and all the other places are the ones who are giving us are freedom. bush is probally sitting at the white house right know stuffing his face, or he might be out telling peole the war will soon come to a end. he has said that for the last year. the war will keep going till they put an end to osama and the other terroist. the other reason i dont like bush is everytime i get on the internet the first thing i see is "40 more killed i iraq". that makes me sick to my stomach knowing these people that probally have a family are over in iraq getting killed all because bush wants revenge. know if anyone wants to disagree with me then thats fine with me, i dont have to argue with ya'll. this fourm is startingto get on my nerves, everytime you turn around some one gives there opionon and then they get jumped on by all the other fourm members.

[PhilpotHunter]

Research your facts a little more. WhatI hear are very strong feelings towards Bush. Your passion for politics is impressive for a high schooler, and if you start backing up your opinions with facts you will be a force to reckon with. And trust me, it won't be hard to find the facts that back up your feelings. Hopefully by the time we go to put another president in office you will be there casting your vote also.


As most of you know, I also dislike W. Not here to argue about it though.

[Lil Gsp]

Ok, as i have once said "i dont like bush". I could carless for the man. You guys say he is the one giving us freedom, your wrong. those men and women that are in iraq and all the other places are the ones who are giving us are freedom. bush is probally sitting at the white house right know stuffing his face, or he might be out telling peole the war will soon come to a end. he has said that for the last year. the war will keep going till they put an end to osama and the other terroist. the other reason i dont like bush is everytime i get on the internet the first thing i see is "40 more killed i iraq". that makes me sick to my stomach knowing these people that probally have a family are over in iraq getting killed all because bush wants revenge. know if anyone wants to disagree with me then thats fine with me, i dont have to argue with ya'll. this fourm is startingto get on my nerves, everytime you turn around some one gives there opionon and then they get jumped on by all the other fourm members.

Turkeyhunter5 before you bad mouth someone/something maybe you should try to get your grammar staight first it should read.....
"Ok, as I have once said "I dont like bush." I could care less for the man. You guys say he is the one giving us freedom, your wrong. Those men and women that are in Iraq and all the other places are the ones who are giving us are freedom. Bush is probably sitting at the White House right know stuffing his face, or he might be out telling peole the war will soon come to a end. He has said that for the last year. The war will keep going till they put an end to Osama and the other terroist. The other reason I dont like Bush is everytime I get on the internet the first thing I see is "40 more killed in Iraq." That makes me sick to my stomach knowing these people that probably have a family are over in Iraq getting killed all because Bush wants revenge. Now if anyone wants to disagree with me then thats fine, iI dont have to argue with ya'll. This fourm is starting to get on my nerves, everytime you turn around some one gives there opinion and then they get jumped on by all the other fourm members!"

Secondly I agree with PhilPotHunter that you need to do a little more research on the War in Iraq, our soldiers and our President because I know right now you dont enough proof to back your opinions up and that your getting your information from the News Media's which NEVER tells the full truth. Next time just do more research and if this forum bothers you then dont post!

[Art]

Ok, as i have once said "i dont like bush". I could carless for the man. You guys say he is the one giving us freedom, your wrong. those men and women that are in iraq and all the other places are the ones who are giving us are freedom. bush is probally sitting at the white house right know stuffing his face, or he might be out telling peole the war will soon come to a end. he has said that for the last year. the war will keep going till they put an end to osama and the other terroist. the other reason i dont like bush is everytime i get on the internet the first thing i see is "40 more killed i iraq". that makes me sick to my stomach knowing these people that probally have a family are over in iraq getting killed all because bush wants revenge. know if anyone wants to disagree with me then thats fine with me, i dont have to argue with ya'll. this fourm is startingto get on my nerves, everytime you turn around some one gives there opionon and then they get jumped on by all the other fourm members.

TH5,

I still pose my original question. Who do you think could do a better job, and why??
It's cool that you seem to have all the problems figured out, but I want to know what you would do to solve the problems?
Would you pull all the troops out of Iraq? Sure, people are dying, but it's for a reason. It's to protect us AND other innocent people who are being slaughtered for no reason. These people we are at war with would love to kill you and they have proven they will if given the chance.

I always find it funny how people get so bent out of shape about how many people we have lost. So many put all their effort into making the war look bad but fail to look at the big picture.. The war with Irag started in March of 03, and since then we have lost approx 1700 brave troops. In that same time frame, there has been over 50,000 people KILLED because of drunk drivers here in the US. 50,000 dead for no reason. Kind of puts the death toll in Iraq into perspective when you consider that all of the men and women that have died there died for a reason. To protect the American people, as well as the Iraqi people and to spread freedom in areas that were once a living hell. Thats the American way.

[PhilpotHunter]

The war with Irag started in March of 03, and since then we have lost approx 1700 brave troops. In that same time frame, there has been over 50,000 people KILLED because of drunk drivers here in the US. 50,000 dead for no reason. Kind of puts the death toll in Iraq into perspective when you consider that all of the men and women that have died there died for a reason.

With all due respect that is like comparing apples and oranges

[jarhedhntr]

My turn. I fought for the SOB in Iraq, and he is full of crap. Democracy in Iraq is a tunnel dream, now taking there oil is doable. He spouts off about freedom and WMD's and then after we don't find any he says oh sorry, aren't we better off without Saddam. If we were after saddam then why aren't we gone yet. I said this in another thread somewhere else. MR. BUSH DON"T CONFUSE THE WAR WITH THE WARRIOR'S. Do you think that I fought for his cause, nope fought for all of you that are going to get on here and blast me for being ANTI BUSH, for all those idiot PETA freaks, for those jackasses that protested the base and through stuff at our wives cars while were were fighting to protect the very right to protest. Oh and Mr. Bush, yooohooo, over here, there is still a country to be lead, yeah us you know the country that elected you . Stop showing off for Daddy and start taking care of you own. Oh thats right, you are taking care of the oil tycoons. I think I broke a sweat. I will leave now and won't respond to any other post in this thread. In the end I agree to disagree with all that disagree with me.

[WBBP]

Jarheadhntr:

Thank's for your service to our Country. You have every right and even more to express your views.

K

[Lil Gsp]

If you anti- Bush people dont agree with him thats okay I have no problem with that. Its yall opinion.. but dont forget that we need to support our trops even if you dont agree with Bush because I want the war to end so Iraq can be able to get their government running and our guys and gals can come home and I know how difficult it is for some families I have a boyfriend heading to Iraq in a year or so and I fought with him to not go because I dont want him killed but me not supporting him isnt going to make it easier or is it going to get him home safely faster.

[Art]

With all due respect that is like comparing apples and oranges

It is, but thats the point. Why worry about a glass of spilled milk when you have a river of milk running through your living room? I'm not making light of anyone being killed, but to me personally I think if we are gonna throw a fit about people dying for no reason, we have plenty of other problem areas besides Iraq.

With all due respect, the war was not started by Bush alone. People forget that it had to be approved by others as well. Bush did not present the facts about WMD because he thought he saw them, thats was he was told by intelligence. At one time, this was looked over by everyone and EVERYONE came to the same conclusion. Even John Kerry. Saddam was a serious threat and the world would be better off without his lying, murdering azz. I personally don't see how the WMD thing became the focus, because it's not like Saddam is this great guy. It's not like there isn't video of him beheading his own party members, and gassing his own women and children to death.

My girlfriend is against the war, but she couldn't even sit through a program about what Saddam did to his own people. Point is, after 9-11 we figured out that we just couldn't sit in the oval office with our mistress all day, because these crazy freaks are going to bring the war here if we don't get to them first.

Not trying to cause a fight either, I agree to disagree as well.

[PhilpotHunter]

I agree to disagree as well.

Isn't it great we can agree on at least that!:D

[Art]

Isn't it great we can agree on at least that!:D

FREEDOM ROCKS!!:D

[PhilpotHunter]

My turn. I fought for the SOB in Iraq, and he is full of crap. Democracy in Iraq is a tunnel dream, now taking there oil is doable. He spouts off about freedom and WMD's and then after we don't find any he says oh sorry, aren't we better off without Saddam. If we were after saddam then why aren't we gone yet. I said this in another thread somewhere else. MR. BUSH DON"T CONFUSE THE WAR WITH THE WARRIOR'S. Do you think that I fought for his cause, nope fought for all of you that are going to get on here and blast me for being ANTI BUSH, for all those idiot PETA freaks, for those jackasses that protested the base and through stuff at our wives cars while were were fighting to protect the very right to protest. Oh and Mr. Bush, yooohooo, over here, there is still a country to be lead, yeah us you know the country that elected you . Stop showing off for Daddy and start taking care of you own. Oh thats right, you are taking care of the oil tycoons. I think I broke a sweat. I will leave now and won't respond to any other post in this thread. In the end I agree to disagree with all that disagree with me.

:D He makes me so proud sometimes :D



I didn't do any time in Iraq, but I was also in the Marines and I can promise you guys that supporting the troops and supporting the president are two very different things.

[Art]

:D He makes me so proud sometimes :D



I didn't do any time in Iraq, but I was also in the Marines and I can promise you guys that supporting the troops and supporting the president are two very different things.

It's weird. I have many friends that were in Iraq the first and second time, and some were in Afghanistan as well. Without going into detail, they all seem to feel like I do. :confused: I dunno??:confused:

[ky_horsetrainer]

sure we all hate war, but if it wasn't for Bush's 'revenge' we might have another 9/11 on our handsI would much rather be a soldier for Bush then to have my friends and family being attacked here in our country.

if you dont like the freedom that our soldiers have fought and died for because of leaders like Bush putting them out there to fight terrorist, instead of letting the terrorist destoy you and your family, move to France, I hear they have great openings for SOBs like yourself


and before you go blabbering about topics make sure you have done your homework


if you had friends in 9/11 you would feel different


i want some mighty revenge, I would kill every last one of them damn iraqi bastards but i guess that is why i am not secretary of war

[Art]

Again, I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but for all the folks who don't like Bush and his policies, PLEASE- lets hear your idea of who would be better, and what would be a "better" approach to handling the terrorist and oppressive dictators who support them?:confused:

If you think what were doing is wrong, then you must have an idea as to whats right.. :confused:

Don't go getting angry at me, I'm just curious.:)

[harpp]

First off who are you calling SOB's I sure hope your aren't referring to Jarhead. Just because he doesn't support the presidents decision sure as hell doesn't mean he doesn't mean he doesn't support the troops. I'm sure he is just like me if they called he would be back over there tomorrow. Now you say you would rather be a soldier for BUSH than to have your friends and family attacked. Are you a Soldier? Then you say to do you home work before you go blabbing about a topic. Follow your own advice There is no such thing as the secretary of war anymore try Secretary of Defense.


sure we all hate war, but if it wasn't for Bush's 'revenge' we might have another 9/11 on our handsI would much rather be a soldier for Bush then to have my friends and family being attacked here in our country.

if you dont like the freedom that our soldiers have fought and died for because of leaders like Bush putting them out there to fight terrorist, instead of letting the terrorist destoy you and your family, move to France,


I hear they have great openings for SOBs like yourself


and before you go blabbering about topics make sure you have done your homework


if you had friends in 9/11 you would feel different


i want some mighty revenge, I would kill every last one of them damn iraqi bastards but i guess that is why i am not secretary of war

[kycowboy]

You know this is getting stupid we can't solve the worlds promblem's on here why can't we just agree to disagree I fought in desert storm hell no I didn't want to be there but I went because that's where my president and my COUNTRY wanted me to go

[Art]

You know this is getting stupid we can't solve the worlds promblem's on here why can't we just agree to disagree I fought in desert storm hell no I didn't want to be there but I went because that's where my president and my COUNTRY wanted me to go

Yep,

On most Forums, they ban post about Religion or politics for that very reason.

This post is the classic "Troll" post, because it only serves the purpose of starting a fight no matter how you look at it, and of course the original poster is MIA.. If I were a Mod, I'd axe it!!

[B.G.O. of Kentucky]

I say everyone just drop it, because all it will do is further divide the board which is not what we want/need.

Remember, we are not democrats, republicans, or libreterians we are hunters!

[grouseguy]

sure we all hate war, but if it wasn't for Bush's 'revenge' we might have another 9/11 on our handsI would much rather be a soldier for Bush then to have my friends and family being attacked here in our country.

if you dont like the freedom that our soldiers have fought and died for because of leaders like Bush putting them out there to fight terrorist, instead of letting the terrorist destoy you and your family, move to France, I hear they have great openings for SOBs like yourself


and before you go blabbering about topics make sure you have done your homework


if you had friends in 9/11 you would feel different


i want some mighty revenge, I would kill every last one of them damn iraqi bastards but i guess that is why i am not secretary of war

Maybe I can offer some perspective....not trying to argue, just offer my thoughts. Personally, I see two completely separate issues when discussing the war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, one I can support and one I don't at all. Afghanistan directly aided and harbored the al Queda leadership, including training grounds, for the ones who attacked the USA on our soil. I feel our efforts there are completely justified, even though I do feel we are committing more of our assets in Iraq than Afghanistan, and support our military, including our Commander in Chief in trying to wipe off the face of the earth the scum that attacked us without provocation.

Now Iraq is a completely different matter. We were taken to war on bogus evidence, against a country that had basically no connection to al Queda or international terrorism. We have actually "created" more terrorists in Iraq with our ham-handed actions than we have killed. You have to remember that Hussein ran a secular government...he is about as close to a fundementalist muslim as I am a fundementalist baptist. Iraq simply had no connections to al Queda as they had opposing priorities...Hussein was driven by money and power and al Queda members are religious zealots. In a true "War on Terror", we would have been much more justified to have attacked Saudi Arabia or Iran, as they actively support al Queda and other terrorist organizations. There really are no reasons for us to be in Iraq other than revenge and greed.

So I'm for bringing our soldiers home from Iraq and letting the Iraqi's fight their own battles, or better yet, redeploy them to Afghanistan and actually track down the man/organization that actually attacked us and continues to make the USA look very foolish and incompetent.

Again, just my perspective, but I do believe its a valid one, even if you may have other opinions.

You guys have a good weekend.

[quackrstackr]

This thread is done.


It's sole purpose was to get the last word in and cause controversy by someone with their undies in a bunch.

I'd say it served it's purpose.