Comments for the appeal

[Multidigits]

Folks, the appeal will be heard on April 22nd. If you have a comment, you can make it in person on that day if you notify the KYDFWR ahead of time. You can call Dan Figets or email him that you want to speak. Or you can send an email or letter to the same by the 30th of April and it will do the same as speaking out on April 22nd.

The process is not a new debate. You need to comment on the past process and not seek a new debate. The KYDFWR lawyer will take the comments, condense them and send them to a review committee. If it's deemed that the meeting on March thge 4th was unlawful or that something was wrong with the process then the LRC will make a suggestion to redo the rule or change it by law at the nest legislative session. This means that unless the earth starts rotating backwards, that we will be hunting with crossbows for at least one season. If that happens, then the KYDFWR will have the data needed to bring the rule change back next March and have it passed again. I'm optimistic that we will win this and that in the end the rule change will be as advertised--good for the whole.

PM me if you need contact info on who to send you comments to.

[grinder]

can't you just post the contact info for all to see?

[Multidigits]

I could. :)

[Duster]

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[grinder]

i see......,

[shogan]

You see what

[grinder]

secrets, secrets

[gwhilikerz]

secrets, secrets
LOL grinder you are the most paranoid person. But then you don't think they are out to get you, you KNOW they are:D .

[shogan]

I heard a paranoid person say the government was letting the drug companies kill elderly because they want to get rid of old people do 2 short falls in social security.

SCARRY

[grinder]

spiders ! spiders are trying to get me !!

[Duster]

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[grinder]

i'm scared of black widow bows

[Kansas]

Multi,
Do you have some people that are going to attend the meeting? I understand that this is not a debate type of meeting, but I would think the more pro people there, the better.
Are you armed with facts so you can fight off the fiction? I would guess the Board would already have additional facts before they made the original decision, but it is better to be over prepared.
Good Luck!
Kansas

[Multidigits]

Multi,
Do you have some people that are going to attend the meeting? I understand that this is not a debate type of meeting, but I would think the more pro people there, the better.
Are you armed with facts so you can fight off the fiction? I would guess the Board would already have additional facts before they made the original decision, but it is better to be over prepared.
Good Luck!
Kansas

It's not a debate meeting or a repeat of the Commission meeting. The Commission won't be there. Scott Porter will listen to the comments then catalog them and weed out any redudant ones. Tehy will then be sent on the the LRC. It's not necessary to be there, but i might go and listen to the comments just to see how many BS lies are told this time. Not that it matters, because it's now a case of law.

[creekdawgg]

Are you planning on speaking?



It's not a debate meeting or a repeat of the Commission meeting. The Commission won't be there. Scott Porter will listen to the comments then catalog them and weed out any redudant ones. Tehy will then be sent on the the LRC. It's not necessary to be there, but i might go and listen to the comments just to see how many BS lies are told this time. Not that it matters, because it's now a case of law.

[LoweBow]

It's not a debate meeting or a repeat of the Commission meeting. The Commission won't be there. Scott Porter will listen to the comments then catalog them and weed out any redudant ones. Tehy will then be sent on the the LRC. It's not necessary to be there, but i might go and listen to the comments just to see how many BS lies are told this time. Not that it matters, because it's now a case of law.

Tom,
Is Scott Porter still working at KDFWR? I've heard a ton of rumors that he was either let go or quit. He was a nice guy in what dealings I had w/ him...

[Multidigits]

Tom,
Is Scott Porter still working at KDFWR? I've heard a ton of rumors that he was either let go or quit. He was a nice guy in what dealings I had w/ him...

Scott is near the end with F & W but will handle this, so I'm told. His last day is the 25th. I don't know if he'll be able to finish the appeal or if it will go to someone else.

[Ispinfish]

You can find the contact information BELOW.
All of the LRC members are listed as well as information on whom to contact for the meeting which is ... I believe this is right 2:00 PM in Frankfort Friday April 22. I have forgotten the location of the meeting, but I am sure someone here will KNOW the location.
Also listed are the Governor's Office and other contact info for Fish and Wildlife and for the Commerce Department.
No matter what your position, please come out and comment, or at least send in your personal position as to whether you feel the meeting was properly held and proper notification was given.
The important point being.. No matter which side wins... We all win if the ENTIRE Community of Outdoorsmen is involved.

Jim Host-
Governor Ernie Fletcher -http://governor.ky.gov/default.htm
Address: 700 Capital Avenue
Suite 100
Frankfort, KY 40601
Phone: (502) 564-2611
Fax: (502) 564-2517


Director of Constituents Services for Governor Fletcher
Ms. Angela Cox
AngelaS.Cox@ky.gov

Secretary of Commerce
James Host
http://commerce.ky.gov/officesecretary/contact.htm

Representative Tanya Pullin
http://lrc.ky.gov/Mailform/H098.htm

Senator Dick Roeding
http://lrc.ky.gov/Mailform/s011.htm
Sen. Alice Forgy Kerr Office: 502-564-8100
alice.kerr@lrc.ky.gov
Sen. Joey Pendleton Office: 270-885-1639
joey.pendleton@lrc.ky.gov
Sen. Gary Tapp Office: 502-564-8100
gary.tapp@lrc.ky.gov
Rep. James E. Bruce Office: 502-564-8100
http://lrc.ky.gov/mailform/h009.htm
Rep. Jimmie Lee Office: 270-765-6222
jimmie.lee@lrc.ky.gov
Rep. Jon David Reinhardt Office: 502-564-2363
jondavid.reinhart@lrc.ky.gov


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Conatct numbers from Sunday March 6,

http://commerce.ky.gov/officesecretary/contact.htm
Commerce Cabinet website
Kentucky Commerce Cabinet
Office of the Secretary
24th Floor, Capital Plaza Tower
500 Mero Street
Frankfort, Kentucky 40601
Address comments to the Secretary Jim Host (502) 564-4270
Phone #'s are available on the site as well as a Comment Section.


Governores Office: http://governor.ky.gov/default.htm
Address: 700 Capital Avenue
Suite 100
Frankfort, KY 40601
Phone: (502) 564-2611
Fax: (502) 564-2517
TDD: (502) 564-9551 (Telecommunications
Device for the Deaf)


Commission Members Phone Numbers to voice your opinion on the Crossbow Hunting Issue.

1st District Charles W. Martin
1125 Court Street
Wickliffe, KY 42087 270-335-5967
Counties: Ballard, Caldwell, Calloway, Carlisle, Christian, Crittenden, Fulton, Graves, Hickman, Livingston, Lyon, McCracken, Marshall, Trigg
2nd District Tom Baker
Coldwell Banker Commercial
Real Estates Services, Inc.
996 Wilkinson Trace, Suite C-6
Bowling Green, KY 42103 270-781-3844

Counties: Allen, Butler, Daviess, Hancock, Henderson, Hopkins, Logan, McLean, Muhlenberg, Ohio, Simpson, Todd, Union, Warren, Webster
3rd District Allen K. Gailor
730 W. Market
Louisville, KY 40202 502-584-7217

Counties: Breckinridge, Bullitt, Jefferson, Meade, Oldham, Shelby, Spencer
4th District Ron Southall
8 Maple Lane
Elizabethtown, KY 42701 270-737-1890
Counties: Adair, Barren, Cumberland, Edmonson, Grayson, Green, Hardin, Hart, Larue, Marion, Metcalfe, Monroe, Nelson, Taylor, Washington
5th District Dr. James Rich
5975 Taylor Mill Road
Covington, KY 41015 859-356-9274

Counties: Boone, Bracken, Campbell, Carroll, Gallatin, Grant, Harrison, Henry, Kenton, Owen, Pendleton, Robertson, Trimble
6th District R. G. Toler
5228 Trapp Goff Corner
Winchester, KY 40391 859-842-4104

Counties: Anderson, Boyle, Casey, Clark, Estill, Fayette, Franklin, Garrard, Jessamine, Lee, Lincoln, Madison, Mercer, Powell, Rockcastle, Scott, Woodford
7th District Doug Hensley
PO Box 480
Hazard, KY 41701 606-436-2321

Counties: Breathitt, Floyd, Harlan, Johnson, Knott, Lawrence, Leslie, Letcher, Magoffin, Martin, Owsley, Perry, Pike
8th District Dr. Robert C. Webb
45 Webb Circle
Grayson, KY 41143 606-474-5149

Counties: Bath, Bourbon, Boyd, Carter, Elliott, Fleming, Greenup, Lewis, Mason, Menifee, Montgomery, Morgan, Nicholas, Rowan, Wolfe
9th District David Godby
16 Summer Breeze
Somerset, KY 42503 606-677-0115 Office

Counties: Bell, Clay, Clinton, Jackson, Knox, Laurel,McCreary, Pulaski, Russell, Wayne, Whitley

[Strutter]

Be careful guys. I know that Grinder feller and I won't say he's paranoid or anything, but he keeps his hats lined with aluminum foil. He says they may know where he's at, but at least they won't know what he's thinking.

Strutter

[grinder]

Be careful guys. I know that Grinder feller and I won't say he's paranoid or anything, but he keeps his hats lined with aluminum foil. He says they may know where he's at, but at least they won't know what he's thinking.

Strutter
i'm thinkin' about september you're gonna pay for that! LOL
about april 22, i'm working,so i won't be there. wish i could. thankyou ispinfish for posting that info. i'm glad someone is not afraid that the "other" faction will get that info. a true sportsman.
strutter, what about them maps you were talking about? any more plan made, or ideas kicked around? PM me rkgrider62@yahoo.com

[gwhilikerz]

i'm thinkin' about september you're gonna pay for that! LOL
about april 22, i'm working,so i won't be there. wish i could. thankyou ispinfish for posting that info. i'm glad someone is not afraid that the "other" faction will get that info. a true sportsman.
strutter, what about them maps you were talking about? any more plan made, or ideas kicked around? PM me rkgrider62@yahoo.com
LOL grinder the info has been out there for quite a while now. I even found the same info on UBK website.:)

[grinder]

LOL grinder the info has been out there for quite a while now. I even found the same info on UBK website.:)
still good to see.

[Multidigits]

Actually, Spinfish has posted some more incorrect info on who the comments need to be sent to. Of course his side wants you to circumvent teh procedure that has been used for the past 50 years or so. Those of you that want to comment, and also try and keep the politics out of management decisions can email or write to the man in charge of this appeal:

Send to Dan Figerts at this email address-- dan.figert@ky.gov (dan.figert@ky.gov)

Or by mail to -- Dan Figert
Assistant Director, Wildlife Division
Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife
#1 Game Farm Road
Frankfort, KY 40601


If the appeal process is not followed by involvement from the folks above, then it would be unlawful, and the first unlawful act committed so far. we'll see how it shakes out.

[Hammer]

so, how did this meeting go?

[maxcam]

It's not a debate meeting or a repeat of the Commission meeting. The Commission won't be there. Scott Porter will listen to the comments then catalog them and weed out any redudant ones. Tehy will then be sent on the the LRC. It's not necessary to be there, but i might go and listen to the comments just to see how many BS lies are told this time. Not that it matters, because it's now a case of law.

Multi I just thought you would like to know that Bennett's whipping boy wasnt there ( Scott Porter ). Seems this matter is causing quiet a stir and a pretty little gal was the attorney present. I heard she is in close proximity to Host's office. It was good to see Billy Reed there as well. :cool:

[grinder]

well, what was decided?

[Multidigits]

Multi I just thought you would like to know that Bennett's whipping boy wasnt there ( Scott Porter ). Seems this matter is causing quiet a stir and a pretty little gal was the attorney present. I heard she is in close proximity to Host's office. It was good to see Billy Reed there as well. :cool:

Scott has been reassigned, but not because of the crossbow issue. I don't think it matters who the attorney was, do you? And I'm sure they are all close to Host's office, as he's now calling the shots for that Dept. We'll see if he wants to introduce politics into the KYDFWR any more than what's already there?

[grinder]

well, what was decided?
???????????

[Dalebow]

Um!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duster]

Um!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that the sound of Dalebows brain dry fireing again ???? LOL.

[Dalebow]

YEAH! it is:-)

[GSP]

Ok guys, the comment/ appeals are over. Let's clean the place up and play nice.:)

[Multidigits]

Actually, anyone who has forgot to comment somehow can still do so--by email or letter. Send them today if you still want up to April 30.