This call?

[P. Beyer]

Being very new, and not so educated on Turkey hunting I saw this call on TOC, it looked very user freindly an idiot proof which is what I need[:)] Does anyone have any info to offer on this? Any
other suggestions welcome also!

Thanks,
P. Beyer

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"It makes no difference whether I got anything; it has to do with how the day was spent"

Fred Bear

[chad]

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[P. Beyer]

Thanks Chad, about 50% cheaper than I've found it elsewhere!
I appreciate it!

"It makes no difference whether I got anything; it has to do with how the day was spent"

Fred Bear

[.300Savage]

I have this call and I don't really like it. It has a bad "spring" noise every time that your let it go back after you push it. Maybe it's just me, but I like the clear sounds that a slate, boat paddle, or mouth call makes a lot better. JMHO

Rocco

[schuyler olt]

It's a variant of the push pin call, which is one of the earliest calls. David Hale uses one extensively, and it's amazing what he can do with one. With practice you can cutt, cackle, cluck and purr well with one. The particular call you have your eye on can be greatly improved with a little work. Like any friction call, attention to where the two sounding pieces rub together can enhance the tone and reduce some of that squeak that 300 is talking about.
A bit of advice, though. The Knight and Hale guys will be at the Strader Show, and there will be a number of pros at our calling contest. I'm doing a calling seminar 1/25 at the Sport Boat and Vacation show in Louisville. See one of us and we'll be happy to show you what you need to do, and how to work the call. All of us will be happy to show you the other types of calls, how they work, how to maintain them, and give you some tips on why you use certain calls at certain times. If I tried to go into detail on trying to tune that particular call on this thread, you could very easily ruin the call.
Personally, I use paddleboat, box and slate calls about 85 % of the time. I always have a diaphragm call in my mouth to use if I can't get away with movement, to give the birds another tone, or to enhance and soften a box or paddleboat by using it at exactly the same time I'm using the box call.
Good luck!

[P. Beyer]

Thanks Guys, Unfortunately I'm unable to make the Strader show, I'm stuck out here in West Ky trying to figure this Turkey Biz out on my own.

Any more good advice out there is appreciated!

Thanks Again,
P. Beyer

"It makes no difference whether I got anything; it has to do with how the day was spent"

Fred Bear

[schuyler olt]

I'd recommend you pick up a decent paddle or box call and a good slate. Whatever you have, concentrate on learning a yelp, a cluck and a purr. Those three calls kill the vast majority of birds. It's very important that you spend as much time out in the woods listening to real birds. Listen not only to the sounds they make, but HOW MUCH (or really how little) they call. Pay close attention to the cadence. Hens have a faster rhythm than jakes and gobblers. Older hens are coarser than young hens, and gobblers cluck very loudly and very sharply. A good yelp run has a distinct break between yelps. This is one reason a box call or paddle is great for yelping, because it has those breaks. A slate is excellant for clucking and purring. Be careful not to overdo the clucks, because it's easy to change them into alarm putts, which is very, very bad.
A fourth call to think about is a tree yelp, which birds do on the roost as they are waking up. It is a very soft, quiet yelp, and I usually use a slate. You'll be amazed how on a quiet morning, a gobbler way off will hammer back at a tree yelp that you can barely hear when you make it.
Remember that thirty days before the season starts it is illegal to turkey call in an area you intend to hunt, so from March 15 on you'll need to practice in the local park, etc.
Gobblers tend to gobble on the roost in the evening, although not always. A good tactic is to go out the evening before you're going to hunt and listen for gobbling. That way you are pretty sure where the birds will be in the morning. Spend some time thinking about where those birds will want to go when they fly down, and how you can get there without disturbing them. Go in as quietly as you can, and listen for the gobbling to begin. After you hear them fire up, don't be in a hurry to call back. That gobbler's not coming down until he feels safe, and he won't feel safe until he can see. Plus, he's gobbling in order to draw hens. If you keep yelping back at him, he'll often sit on the limb hammering away. What will happen is that sooner or later, the real deal will come to his tree, and you are royally toasted. Anyway, give him a few yelps and see if he responds. If a different bird fires up, respond to him. Make that first bird jealous. Keep responding to the second bird. What you're doing is actually doing is hunting the first bird by calling to the second. Pay attention to what that first bird is doing. When you hear him gobble on the ground (it will usually sound quieter than when you heard him in the trees) then start responding to his gobbles, but don't overdo it. You want to still make him think you're madly in lust with the second bird.
Most importantly, there is no substitute for scouting and knowing the lay of the land. If there is a big creek or ravine between you and the bird, you'll probably have a lovely conversation, but you won't kill him. Try to be on his level, if you can. Never expect him to come to you on a straight line. Turkey hunting is a whole lot more woodsmanship than calling. A comfortable cushion and set up where you can sit without moving for forty-five minutes will kill more turkeys than the best call made.
Patience. Take your watch off and put it in your pocket. Turkeys do not wear them and they do not punch time clocks. They are generally not in a hurry except to get out of there when they see you look at your watch. Just because they are not gobbling doesn't mean they're not coming. Early in the season, they are often roosted with hens and they will go off with them initially. But they heard you, and they always want more lovin'. Once they get done, they may gobble again, or they may head in your direction. Early in the season that may happen several times during a morning, and many birds get killed around noon, so be patient and try not to throw in the towel too soon.
Most importantly, be safe, and laugh when you screw it up.[:D]

[Boss Gobbler]

The more tricks you have up your sleeve, the more successful you will be.[;)]

[P. Beyer]

Thanks guys, I'm gonna try and get me a Turkey this year. I appreciate all the help. I've tried for a few years before. They are tough to hunt. Boss mentioned "tricks", I'm gonna try and learn the basics too!

Are there any good videos/cassettes/dvd's that would help in my quest?

Thanks again,
P. Beyer

"It makes no difference whether I got anything; it has to do with how the day was spent"

Fred Bear

[Boss Gobbler]

The #1 secret to turkey hunting is knowing the lay of the land. If there are no obstuctions between you and him it will make life a little easier.