Club forming--UCBK

[Multidigits]

United Crossbowhunters of Kentucky

Gents, anyone interested forming a club for crossbow users or even crossbow supportors, this is for you. I'll try to stay on top of this until we can have a election of officers and form the club properly.

For starters, we'll need at least 25 members before it will be worthwhile, IMO. I believe when the word gets out we can do that easily. You'll recieve a window decal for you vehicle and ATV and a membership card. Any other perks will be decided at the first organizational meeting that we have. we may well just meet on the Internet for now. If we are fortunate to geta supporter that can get us on the web, so much the better.

In the mean time, if your interested, shoot me a PM and I'll send you the info on joining. Dues will be $10 per year and will include LKS membership(gets you the LKS paper, the Kentucky Afield magazine and LKS membership card). The group will also have 2 votes at the convention in June. This should at least put us equal in terms with the UBK. Thanks and comments on making this better are welcome.

[Multidigits]

The club has been up and running for 5 minutes and we have 4 members. Keep it coming! You artist fellows get me some designs for a logo.

[bunniebuster]

count me in

[skin_dog1]

The logo could be a drunk guy in orange sitting on his tailgate with a crossbow at a deer crossing sign. I'm no good at drawing but I have a great mental picture. :eek: :D :D Sorry, I couldn't resist. All the slapping, clawing, and hair pulling lately and I've tried to avoid the nasty stuff. What the hell! I am a selfish ARCHERY ELITIST Right!

[Multidigits]

Being a recovered alcoholic, I'd go for that if the UBK changes theirs to a guy with an extremely big head on his shoulders. Skin dog, I don't have a problem with you having fun with this, but this is serious business. I didn't see anyone cracking sick jokes at your attempt to form a club a day or two ago. If you have something constructive to add, bring it on. Otherwise, we don't need your help.


Update: I laid down for a nap before the night shift tonight and I've got 20 PMs to sort through. I'll get them out tonight I hope if I'm not to busy.

[creekdawgg]

Here's a good logo:eek:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/jsi0001l.jpg

[skin_dog1]

Maybe not sick jokes, but I had plenty of negative feedback. Even got one real nasty PM from a troll. Forgive me for being an ass, I guess I've just heard so much I couldn't resist jumping in. Creekdawg, that one would probably work too.

[Multidigits]

OK, I owe you one, I got it wrote in my book :p

[grinder]

United Crossbowhunters of Kentucky

Gents, anyone interested forming a club for crossbow users or even crossbow supportors, this is for you. I'll try to stay on top of this until we can have a election of officers and form the club properly.

For starters, we'll need at least 25 members before it will be worthwhile, IMO. I believe when the word gets out we can do that easily. You'll recieve a window decal for you vehicle and ATV and a membership card. Any other perks will be decided at the first organizational meeting that we have. we may well just meet on the Internet for now. If we are fortunate to geta supporter that can get us on the web, so much the better.

In the mean time, if your interested, shoot me a PM and I'll send you the info on joining. Dues will be $10 per year and will include LKS membership(gets you the LKS paper, the Kentucky Afield magazine and LKS membership card). The group will also have 2 votes at the convention in June. This should at least put us equal in terms with the UBK. Thanks and comments on making this better are welcome.
are stickbows and compound hunters allowed in this club? or is it going to be a bunch of elitists?

[Multidigits]

Show me the money.....we know there are plenty of closet crossbow users in the crowd.

Rumor has it that Strader himself has used one. We're looking in to it as we speak.

[Xtreme]

Show me the money.....we know there are plenty of closet crossbow users in the crowd.

Rumor has it that Strader himself has used one. We're looking in to it as we speak.

I say you have a picture of a "man" dressed in Drag.....Your logo could be.....UCCBH United Closet Crossbow Hunters, where everyone is a Queen:D

Aint I just hilarious:D :p

[gwhilikerz]

are stickbows and compound hunters allowed in this club? or is it going to be a bunch of elitists?
I'm a stickbow and compound shooter and I am joining. Can I join your UBK with my crossbow? If not then you are no longer "United" are you? So who is the ELITIST?

[12 pointer]

i just wonder how many would xbow hunt if they weren't afraid someone would think "less" of them? ;)

[harpp]

I'll hunt with one if I feel like it.

[gwhilikerz]

I'll hunt with one if I feel like it.
harpp that was my feeling about it as well. I had not thought much about xbows until I saw the discussions here. I got so tired of "real" bow shooters calling xbowyers lowlifes, scum, lazy, poachers, etc. I decided that this was something I had to get involved with. xbowyers are no different than any other group of hunters, there are good, bad, and ugly in every bunch. Well I'm good and ugly so I should fit in with any group. I'm ordering an Excalibur xbow soon.:)

[Multidigits]

I've got 26 committments for the Club. That's enough for the goals we've set. A few more will be gravy on the potatoes. Keep it up!

[Sackcloth]

My check is on the way. I lived in KY from birth to age 18. My wife's family has a few hundred acrs of dirt in Knox county. I have a house and a little dirt in Knott county. My sister has a house and a few acres in Floyd county. I am assigned to Virginia now and probably will be for another 5 years then home to Ky to retire and hunt them big KY feeral hogs.

[Multidigits]

Thanks again for the support. The checks for membership are coming in at a steady clip. I'm recording the info and will notify Frankfort on Monday that we are now a player in the ongoing struggle to gain the oppurtunity that we won on Friday. I'll keep you paosted as we grow. Thanks again.

[Willie]

Thanks again for the support. The checks for membership are coming in at a steady clip. I'm recording the info and will notify Frankfort on Monday that we are now a player in the ongoing struggle to gain the oppurtunity that we won on Friday. I'll keep you paosted as we grow. Thanks again.

I put mine in the mail this morning. You should have it by Tuesday.

.

[wabi]

I sent a check out Friday, can't have too many members!

[InfantryGrunt]

I say you have a picture of a "man" dressed in Drag.....Your logo could be.....UCCBH United Closet Crossbow Hunters, where everyone is a Queen:D

Aint I just hilarious:D :p

Maybe you could be the model for the pictures:confused:

[digger]

I live in Ontario, Canada where we have hunted the archery season with crossbows for over twenty five years now and am delighted to see the great state of Kentucky has finally seen the light. If $10 dollars will ensure that xbows stay legal hunting tools I will gladly contribute to the cause. I sent a money order to you yesterday. Please sigh me up.

Digger

[jerry]

Hi Digger and welcome to the nut house.I`m sure your membership will be appreciated!!! Seriously,welcome aboard.

[gwhilikerz]

Hi Digger:) Great to have you with us here on the forum. Stick around, your expertise and experience living under the shared woods (vertical/horizontal bows) situation will be needed.

[Xtreme]

Maybe you could be the model for the pictures:confused:

How about a picture of me with my no.11 Corcoran jump boot up your ass:mad:

You are not the only veteran on here my friend.

[Multidigits]

Folks, I've got checks in hand from 13 members:

1. Me
2. Dustin Conely
3. Bob Stout
4. John Simpson
5. Jerry Karr
6. Gary Windom
7.Robert Sanders
8. Woody Williams
9. Franklin Clifton
10 Paul Harp
11. M.H. Cooper
12. Randy Sims
13. Dan Hendricks of the American Crossbow Federation

Anyone wanting info on the American Crossbow Federation can contact Don @ bowtwang@charter.net
Keep it coming, almost where we need to be.

[gwhilikerz]

My check goes in the mail tomorrow:)

[Duster]

Mine went in the mail the 11th. If it don't get there real soon let me know. Around these parts if the mule gets sick the mail slows down.

[Xtreme]

How about a picture of me with my no.11 Corcoran jump boot up your ass:mad:

You are not the only veteran on here my friend.

I tried to delete this post this evening but could not due to my obvious lack of computer skills.

My apologies on this post as it was highly un professional and was un becoming of an officer. My duties as a director of the LOKS, UBK and last but not least president of Cyberhunters dictates that I be much more professional as well as mature enought to not post such rubbish as this my last post on here.

My apologies. As a matter of fact I think I'll just leave you boys alone. I sure hope this all ends soon one way or another as it is stressing some of us to limits we can't handle in a civil manner.

[AteUp]

I tried to delete this post this evening but could not due to my obvious lack of computer skills.

My apologies on this post as it was highly un professional and was un becoming of an officer. My duties as a director of the LOKS, UBK and last but not least president of Cyberhunters dictates that I be much more professional as well as mature enought to not post such rubbish as this my last post on here.

My apologies. As a matter of fact I think I'll just leave you boys alone. I sure hope this all ends soon one way or another as it is stressing some of us to limits we can't handle in a civil manner.

That's very admirable of you Xtreme. More people need to realize that there are real people behind the signons here.

[Dalebow]

UBK

was formed to prevent the use of crossbows in the regular archery season some 20 years ago, we were then and forever will be against them in the regular archery season. Anyone can join UBK, but we as a group do not support crossbows. Is the NRA an elitist group becuase they don't include bows, I think not. For all of you guys with the comments about opening the doors for the anti's how many are members of the United Sportsman Alliance, NRA, or any other group that actually has some power on the National Level. If we are going to defeat Anti's it will take $$$ not talk.

[Multidigits]

UBK

was formed to prevent the use of crossbows in the regular archery season some 20 years ago, we were then and forever will be against them in the regular archery season. Anyone can join UBK, but we as a group do not support crossbows. Is the NRA an elitist group becuase they don't include bows, I think not. For all of you guys with the comments about opening the doors for the anti's how many are members of the United Sportsman Alliance, NRA, or any other group that actually has some power on the National Level. If we are going to defeat Anti's it will take $$$ not talk.

Your misinformed again....the NRA spends millions on hunting rights--all hunters, not just gun hunters.

[Willie]

.............For all of you guys with the comments about opening the doors for the anti's how many are members of the United Sportsman Alliance, NRA, or any other group that actually has some power on the National Level. If we are going to defeat Anti's it will take $$$ not talk.

All of the above and then some.

My contention is you are setting a very dangersous precendent that can be used by the ARFs down the road.

Face it - politicians can more easily be swayed by the ARFs than the Game Commision can.

Who's hands do you want the future of hunting in? The Game Commision or the politicians?

[wabi]

Multidigits,

I see my check made it (M.H. Cooper)!
I'm gald to be a member, and add my support to the cause.

Did I read in a post you're a friend of Bill W.?

[Dalebow]

Multi

as a life member I assure your Iam not misinformed, my comment was they don't say National Rifle and Bow Asscociation and yes they fight for all hunters. I hope you and everyone here are members!

[InfantryGrunt]

Did I read in a post you're a friend of Bill W.?

Not a friend but my Mom knows him real well. has known him for over 30 years and has an excellant friendship with him for the past 19. Glad she meet him after she had grandkids so that they wouldn't have to go through the crap I did growing up. And I still love her.

IG

[wabi]

Not a friend but my Mom knows him real well. has known him for over 30 years and has an excellant friendship with him for the past 19. Glad she meet him after she had grandkids so that they wouldn't have to go through the crap I did growing up. And I still love her.

IG

Good to hear she took advantage of his program. I first heard of him about 7 years ago, and I've been following his program ever since. My older kids would understand what you are saying, but my 5 year old has had it better. The grandkids, too!

[joekat46]

Glad to see my check has been received and my name listed in the number 4 position.

BTW - of all the pro hunting organizations listed by far the one to support above all others is the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance (formerly The Wildlife Legislative Fund) out of Columbus, Ohio. This group has a proven track record for already defeating two well funded (by the antis) voter referendums that would have ended dove hunting and trapping in Ohio. They know what they are doing and are good at it. They work on the national level not just Ohio. IMHO this anti crossbow crap has to be making their attorneys cringe. It is for this reason that I quickly sent in my membership fee to show support for the crossbow hunters. I still don't own one - yet.

This edit was to correct some spellin' mistakes. Also be sure and do a "google" and bring up the Sportsmens Alliance's web site. It will show all they are involved in.

[Willie]

..............
BTW - of all the pro hunting organizations listed by far the one to support above all others is the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance (formerly The Wildlife Legislative Fund) out of Columbus, Ohio. This group has a proven track record for already defeating two well funded (by the antis) voter referendums that would have ended dove hunting and trapping in Ohio. They know what they are doing and are good at it. They work on the national level not just Ohio. ...........

In my estimation they are the best one going right now..

[gwhilikerz]

Infantrygrunt. Please go back and read post #29 on this thread.

[Duster]

I believe the point is the man made a public apology. Things are posted in haste a lot of times without thinking of the overall picture. I think we all (or most of us) are guilty at one time or another of doing the same thing.

[InfantryGrunt]

I removed all my offending post that I made or that I might have made to anyone on here. It seems like there is too many people that complain on here about what is said or isn't said.
I didn't take anything personal that anyone might of said or threatned to show me their boot. I got the kind of reaction that I would of given also as he was replying to a previous post of mine.
So because he wasn't able to figure out how to remove his post and I respond to what he wrote then...I'm the bad guy. I don't care. Call me what you want too. Been called worse by better people before.

So for all you individuals out there that carry things a little to far....Have a great Day and for those that like to have a little fun without taking things so personal...Have a Better day than the others!

[Bowcrazy]

Glad to see my check has been received and my name listed in the number 4 position.

BTW - of all the pro hunting organizations listed by far the one to support above all others is the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance (formerly The Wildlife Legislative Fund) out of Columbus, Ohio. This group has a proven track record for already defeating two well funded (by the antis) voter referendums that would have ended dove hunting and trapping in Ohio. They know what they are doing and are good at it. They work on the national level not just Ohio. IMHO this anti crossbow crap has to be making their attorneys cringe. It is for this reason that I quickly sent in my membership fee to show support for the crossbow hunters. I still don't own one - yet.

This edit was to correct some spellin' mistakes. Also be sure and do a "google" and bring up the Sportsmens Alliance's web site. It will show all they are involved in.

The UBK is one of the oldest and stronger supporters of the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance and WLFA in Kentucky. A check has gone in consistently for many years. Members have attended National Conferences. Same with my local bowhunting group, we have been an Associate Member of the WLFA since the Protect What's Right Program. The WLFA has had a strong base of support from bowhunters since the very beginning. I'm sure someone can twist those statements and make something bad out of them, but there they are do what you will.

[Multidigits]

The UBK is one of the oldest and stronger supporters of the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance and WLFA in Kentucky. A check has gone in consistently for many years. Members have attended National Conferences. Same with my local bowhunting group, we have been an Associate Member of the WLFA since the Protect What's Right Program. The WLFA has had a strong base of support from bowhunters since the very beginning. I'm sure someone can twist those statements and make something bad out of them, but there they are do what you will.

I'm curious if the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance and the WLFA would accept the crossbow user as a member in their org.???

[Multidigits]

Recieved two more checks today. Also, I notified the Dept. that we are now a player in the game and should be consulted if an issue with Commission decision goes forward. Thanks for the support.

[aceoky]

harpp that was my feeling about it as well. I had not thought much about xbows until I saw the discussions here. I got so tired of "real" bow shooters calling xbowyers lowlifes, scum, lazy, poachers, etc. I decided that this was something I had to get involved with. xbowyers are no different than any other group of hunters, there are good, bad, and ugly in every bunch. Well I'm good and ugly so I should fit in with any group. I'm ordering an Excalibur xbow soon.:)

And *I* thought it would only be the "antis" we needed to worry about! Silly Silly me!
:D

[joekat46]

I'm curious if the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance and the WLFA would accept the crossbow user as a member in their org.???

Of course the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance will accept and defend crossbow seasons and crossbow users. That is my whole point. The "traditional" bow and the crossbow kill the same way - by hemorrhage. A cutting instrument is afixed to an arrow or bolt and shot into an animals vitals. The animal bleeds to death. For one group of selfish elitist to constantly and continuously throw out statements about how the crossbow is going to be an ineffective tool used by the unskilled is IMNSHO a "suicide" mission. The UBK may win this round but then groups like the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance will, at some point, have to defend this bunch of "super hunters" when their own statements are used against them by groups attacking any type of bow hunting.

[aceoky]

Of course the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance will accept and defend crossbow seasons and crossbow users. That is my whole point. The "traditional" bow and the crossbow kill the same way - by hemorrhage. A cutting instrument is afixed to an arrow or bolt and shot into an animals vitals. The animal bleeds to death. For one group of selfish elitist to constantly and continuously throw out statements about how the crossbow is going to be an ineffective tool used by the unskilled is IMNSHO a "suicide" mission. The UBK may win this round but then groups like the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance will, at some point, have to defend this bunch of "super hunters" when their own statements are used against them by groups attacking any type of bow hunting.

That is why I opened MY big mouth(or keyboard if you will), we have enough to think about, and ALL bowhunting could end and soon, if we aren't VERY careful, so what do many of US do? We insult the very people that could help to avoid that????

Seems smart to me NOT!

I wasn't going to add to the "mix", but try as I may, I couldn't let this go on any longer without my opinions, since I feel, that we are all going to lose with such "elitist" attitudes! Wow another choice BIG DEAL!

Life goes on(for now) all hunters need to "get along" and stick together, or hang apart!! Think about that??

[Dalebow]

Well, Well found out some things about ya Mr Conley. I think once everyone figures out who you are you will be out in the cold. Most ethical hunters are not going to have someone represent them that have game violations in their past. Such as asking for permission to hunt on property and being told no and then you and 3 of your buddies doing it anyone and getting caught. And before you deny this or remove the thread I Have in my possession the public record of this and will happily post it and other things for people to see who you are. You are a fraud, anyone that cheats and steals from a property owner cannot be trusted and that show who you are in real life. Also your bashing of the local WHAS host of the only hunting show on the radio is pathethic. At no time did Jim use a crossbow in a regular archry season. I would get my facts straight quick if I were you. Met some nice people from all over Ky today and they all know you and don't like you and know Iam seeing why, so if ya want to play ball get a glove:-) Oh and don't use the excuse that the conservation officers was out to get you as you have said in the past because even if it were true you can get cited if you are not breaking the law. Yeah your a great example:-)


Play Ball

[kybowhunter1963]

the warden involved with this is a very accomplished and professional law enforcement official....had an opportunity to back him up a time or two and help him with an arrest.........I am sure he was by the book.......no hidden agendas!!

[Dalebow]

I agree, the Fish and Wildlife officers in Ky are second to none.

[Multidigits]

Well, Well found out some things about ya Mr Conley. I think once everyone figures out who you are you will be out in the cold. Most ethical hunters are not going to have someone represent them that have game violations in their past. Such as asking for permission to hunt on property and being told no and then you and 3 of your buddies doing it anyone and getting caught. And before you deny this or remove the thread I Have in my possession the public record of this and will happily post it and other things for people to see who you are. You are a fraud, anyone that cheats and steals from a property owner cannot be trusted and that show who you are in real life. Also your bashing of the local WHAS host of the only hunting show on the radio is pathethic. At no time did Jim use a crossbow in a regular archry season. I would get my facts straight quick if I were you. Met some nice people from all over Ky today and they all know you and don't like you and know Iam seeing why, so if ya want to play ball get a glove:-) Oh and don't use the excuse that the conservation officers was out to get you as you have said in the past because even if it were true you can get cited if you are not breaking the law. Yeah your a great example:-)


Play Ball


Warning....this post is slander and by the time I get back from South Carolina if it's not edited, I'll see you about it. Have fun.

[Multidigits]

the warden involved with this is a very accomplished and professional law enforcement official....had an opportunity to back him up a time or two and help him with an arrest.........I am sure he was by the book.......no hidden agendas!!

I think the fact that this famous citation has made the news shows that he did in fact have a hidden agenda. It's history and something that could happen to anyone. I'm sure Chris is a fine person and a great officers.....he just has a big mouth and blows off about what he's done. I'm sure he got a feather in his hat for his hard work in the field that day.

You boys have fun with it. I'm going hunting. :D

[gwhilikerz]

Well, Well found out some things about ya Mr Conley. I think once everyone figures out who you are you will be out in the cold. Most ethical hunters are not going to have someone represent them that have game violations in their past. Such as asking for permission to hunt on property and being told no and then you and 3 of your buddies doing it anyone and getting caught. And before you deny this or remove the thread I Have in my possession the public record of this and will happily post it and other things for people to see who you are. You are a fraud, anyone that cheats and steals from a property owner cannot be trusted and that show who you are in real life. Also your bashing of the local WHAS host of the only hunting show on the radio is pathethic. At no time did Jim use a crossbow in a regular archry season. I would get my facts straight quick if I were you. Met some nice people from all over Ky today and they all know you and don't like you and know Iam seeing why, so if ya want to play ball get a glove:-) Oh and don't use the excuse that the conservation officers was out to get you as you have said in the past because even if it were true you can get cited if you are not breaking the law. Yeah your a great example:-)


Play Ball
I edited what I had written here. Multi doesn't need any of us to defend him. He is quite capable. I will instead use my time on this forum for something more uplifting than arguing with numbskulls.

[Willie]

I've been on the net a long, long time debating just about every subject imaginable.

One thing is real apparent in these debates - some people when they see they have lost the debate on the facts will start to personally attack the person they are debating.

It seems to me that Dalebow is one such person.

If all else fails you can still call your opponent names..

Shame..

[joekat46]

I agree, the Fish and Wildlife officers in Ky are second to none.

I guess we know who gets the "butt smooching" award now don't we Dale? Since this has degraded to a behind the bleachers high school fight I thought I'd just throw that in for fun.

At this point, unless he was charged with murder or treason, I don't care what Multi has done in the past. He obviously has the patience and tenacity of ten and I admire him for it.

I took a lot of time writing post #47 on this thread. I'm still waiting for one of your thugs to give a witty reply. Yes - I am now thoroughly pi$$ed. I don't think any of your group has yet realized how much damage you have done to hunting. Get the politicians involved and you'll pretty much ice it.

[Dalebow]

We are getting them involved all the way up to the gov. himself. Of course you don't mind what he has done, shows the lack of integrity of the whole crossbow thing. Bandits following bandits.

[Dalebow]

Multi

You are really as dumb as you appear. Chris never gave me the information, he is an honest officer and has to much in the way of ethics for that. If you want to know it was one of your buddies who turned me on to it and with a little research it was easy to find. Yeah one of your League buddies:-)

[Xtreme]

Poor old multi has been backed into a corner several times on here. Hell, I should know as I've been right there with him in regards to topics like deer management.;) etc.

I never thought I'd see the day that he would have a fan club, however as he just has a unique way of always pissing some poor soul off on a near regular basis.:eek: :o :rolleyes:

I have not got the high powered funny faces masterd as of yet or I could really have a fun time animating this thread.:D

Aint war hell:confused:

[warden310]

The facts are that Multi and 3 friends were cited for hunting waterfowl w/o permission in Bullitt Co. on 12/31/04. One of the hunters didn't have a federal waterfowl stamp. They paid their fines, kept their guns, and we all moved on.

I'm sure others on the site have been cited for hunting/fishing/boating violations so for everyone's sake let's all "MOVE ON." If he had it to do over he would probably not do it. This is the xbow forum so let's keep talking about xbow's, not personal attacks on members.

Thanks
Chris Ogle

[joekat46]

Of course the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance will accept and defend crossbow seasons and crossbow users. That is my whole point. The "traditional" bow and the crossbow kill the same way - by hemorrhage. A cutting instrument is afixed to an arrow or bolt and shot into an animals vitals. The animal bleeds to death. For one group of selfish elitist to constantly and continuously throw out statements about how the crossbow is going to be an ineffective tool used by the unskilled is IMNSHO a "suicide" mission. The UBK may win this round but then groups like the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance will, at some point, have to defend this bunch of "super hunters" when their own statements are used against them by groups attacking any type of bow hunting.

Going on 48 hours - still waiting for the reply/explaination on how the UBK's stand isn't hurting all hunters. Think about changing the "K" in UBK to "kamikazes". It shouldn't matter the "divine wind" blowing off your organization will have a bad smell to it. Can't believe your group is this shelfish and DUMB. Maybe now an organization of anti-hunters will petition the Governor and Legislature for approval or ammendments every time a hunting season is set. You guys really thought this out didn't you?

I've had enough. I'm going to start fading from this fight. What will happen will happen. This is one of the first times I haven't felt bad I left the Commonwealth. You've made your bed - now sleep in it.

[joekat46]

After 5 days I thought one UBK member could think of and share an opinion on why the UBK's opposition to the crossbow wasn't, at the end of the argument, going to hurt all bowhunters. At least Ispin could give us an another fantasy hunt story about how he leaves all the wounded deer in the woods when he shoots them with his crossbow. That one is still my favorite so far. I hope this debate stays in Kentucky and doesn't now spread to other states. All hunters can give a big "thank you" to UBK if it does.

[creekdawgg]

Why you guys keep egging on the UBK guys, just drop it, you won lets move on. I dont see the UBK members in here messing with you guys unless yall are already talking shit to them. They have a opioun and so do you crossbow guys but the state said it's legal so that's that, untill otherwise stated start practicing your xbowor whatever you want to do and stop all the non-sense and bickering between hunters, seriously yall are worse then a bunch of old women gosiiping and stuff

[Walt K]

As well informed as everyone on this site is suppose to be, I don't understand (well maybe I do, everyone is pretty touchy and personal about the xbow subject) that UBK is 'going around' Fish & Wildlife. For those educated, you know its not true, for those uneducated, get educated. There is, and always has been, an appeal process in place for ANY decisions that come out of the KDFWR Commission. Most folks simply throw up their hands and say "Well, the commission said..." and leave it at that. If the Commission passed a million dollar bonus as a going-away present to T. Bennett, do you think 'it is written?' Nothing they do is etched in stone. And Multi knows that, I would think he'd educate his followers on that instead of trying to say UBK is opening stuff to the antis, guys, that's pure BS.
Walt

[Multidigits]

As well informed as everyone on this site is suppose to be, I don't understand (well maybe I do, everyone is pretty touchy and personal about the xbow subject) that UBK is 'going around' Fish & Wildlife. For those educated, you know its not true, for those uneducated, get educated. There is, and always has been, an appeal process in place for ANY decisions that come out of the KDFWR Commission. Most folks simply throw up their hands and say "Well, the commission said..." and leave it at that. If the Commission passed a million dollar bonus as a going-away present to T. Bennett, do you think 'it is written?' Nothing they do is etched in stone. And Multi knows that, I would think he'd educate his followers on that instead of trying to say UBK is opening stuff to the antis, guys, that's pure BS.
Walt

More lies from the UBK. The campaign started with the UBK and Strader urging people to call the Gov. and Sec. Host. Is that the normal process? NO, it's not as Koeppel could tell you. Yes, the decisions are open to appeal, thought it's rare for one to be overturned. The last time anyone could remember an appeal of a hunting change was whrn the UBK protested the Oct. ML season change. We're still hunting with MLs in Oct. and it's a very popular season judging by the folks out that day and the number of deer killed then.

Walt wants you to believe that this is normal process. It's not. The normal process would have been for him to have attended the Committee meeting and voice his oppisition to the crossbow change then. Of course, he dropped the ball and didn't make that meeting, so he wants to cry foul because the "UBK didn't know". Everyone knows the Feb. Committee/Mar. Commission meetings are when deer/fall turkey regs are finalized and he should have been there.

As for the appeal, there's another decision being appealed by a group that wants to keep exotic dangerous animals. Shows what can happen when the Commission is taking lightly and their hands tied because a small group doesn't like what was decided.



Guys, send in your dues for the UCBK. I need to get us affiliated before the LKS convention so that we'll have voting powers. We need a few more members to make it happen. Keep the interst coming and the mo up. Calls to your Commissioners are still import. Show you confidence in them and the system. Thanks

[buckfever]

After 5 days I thought one UBK member could think of and share an opinion on why the UBK's opposition to the crossbow wasn't, at the end of the argument, going to hurt all bowhunters. At least Ispin could give us an another fantasy hunt story about how he leaves all the wounded deer in the woods when he shoots them with his crossbow. That one is still my favorite so far. I hope this debate stays in Kentucky and doesn't now spread to other states. All hunters can give a big "thank you" to UBK if it does.

joekat46 - I don't speak for UBK, and frankly I'm not quite sure why you and Kansas and Willie and so many other out-of-staters are so worried about a Kentucky issue, but I may be able to answer your questions. However, I'm not sure I exactly understand your concerns. I'm not sure what UBK has actually said that offends you so much and might "hurt all bowhunters". Do you simply take issue with the fact that UBK is opposed to crossbows during the archery season? Do you understand the way the regulatory process works in Kentucky?

I've read posts about the legislature or Governor's office getting involved and that "politicians" will somehow taking over the regulation of hunting. Is that your concern? If so, what prevents anti-hunting groups from taking this route right now? If you don't believe the commission is a political bureaucracy, I'd love to hear why.

Other than what you've read on Kyhunting.com, are you aware of how this particular regulation was introduced and passed? Do you know whether it was the product of legitimate administrative action?

Furthermore, Multi made this comment: "The last poll I saw on the subjest showed that 87% of the people in Ky. support hunting, even if they don't hunt. Seems pretty safe to me?" What politicians are going to buck that amount of overwhelming public support for hunting and commit political suicide by taking steps to eliminate hunting?

[joekat46]

Multi -Glad you're back. I made a few attempts to fill the void but could not/still haven't gotten a legitimate explaination of why ANYONE thinks this debate has not hurt bowhunting and hunters in general. My personal opinion keeps getting reinforced - The UBK is by far the most selfish self-serving bunch to come along in some time. All bows kill the same way. Period.
If the crossbow season is expanded and finalized there should be no shortage of members to the UCBK. I do hope we can act smarter than our arch enemy group. Suicide is not on my agenda.
Unlike some of the ostrich imitators on here I have five anti-hunting web sites bookmarked. When this debate is mentioned, it will be, I'll be the first to let you all know. Pretty steep a price to pay to keep exclusive use of the September through mid October bowhunting there UBK. I never realized UBK opposed the early muzzleloader season - what was I thinking?

P.S. - "Buckfever", I lived in KY for 9 years and still have assets there. Anything that gives fuel to the antis is a concern of mine and all of us "out of staters" especially the ones who primarily hunt the lands under FEDERAL ownership such as LBL, FT. Campbell, and Clarks River NWA. The politicians in KY aren't the threat but the Federal Judges that will want to know why, if the extremist aren't given the same rights of appeal/ammendment to hunting regulations on these FEDERAL lands, will be. This is no longer a Kentucky issue. It is a hunting issue that will spill far from Kentucky's borders.

[buckfever]

Joekat said: "The politicians in KY aren't the threat but the Federal Judges that will want to know why, if the extremist aren't given the same rights of appeal/ammendment to hunting regulations on these FEDERAL lands, will be."

Joe - The extremists already have the exact same rights that you're talking about.

[Willie]

Buckfever –“I don't speak for UBK, and frankly I'm not quite sure why you and Kansas and Willie and so many other out-of-staters are so worried about a Kentucky issue,.”

I explained that I was born in KY and my folks moved to Indiana when I was in my early childhood. I hunt a LOT in KY.

I pay for a license just like you do only a tad more.

I also hunt with a crossbow with a physically challenged permit..

Since I started hunting with a crossbow I have found they are NOT the evil machine of the devil. All those years I had been sold a bucket of slop by other bowhunters AND bowhunting organizations merely because they are selfish people. Stupid me, I believed them. I am not saying ALL bowhunters, but quite a few.

Buckfever –“I've read posts about the legislature or Governor's office getting involved and that "politicians" will somehow taking over the regulation of hunting. Is that your concern? If so, what prevents anti-hunting groups from taking this route right now?”

Willie – You guys are paving the path for them.

[Multidigits]

The night of the radio show, Buck was on there preaching to anyone who would listen to make the calls to the Govenor and to the Sec. Host. Sec. Host put Mr. Hensley in charge of looking into what and why. Now, Buck good friend Tom Bennett is out of a job. Maybe it was the last straw, maybe unrelated? We won't know. Yes the Commission is political, Everything in Frankfort is political. We've had anti-hunters try to breech the Commission before, so anything they do is a possiblity. If these appeals are allowed to suceed, then we'll no doubt get more invasions. The Commission decision needs to stand or the Commission itself is weakened. The very system will be a weak link and subject to attack from outside. Where will buck and his friends be then? Time will tell.


Call your Commissioner and show your support for his decision. They have friends in the Legislature too.

[Walt K]

[QUOTE=Multidigits]More lies from the UBK. The campaign started with the UBK and Strader urging people to call the Gov. and Sec. Host. Is that the normal process? NO, it's not as Koeppel could tell you. Yes, the decisions are open to appeal, thought it's rare for one to be overturned. The last time anyone could remember an appeal of a hunting change was whrn the UBK protested the Oct. ML season change. We're still hunting with MLs in Oct. and it's a very popular season judging by the folks out that day and the number of deer killed then.

Walt wants you to believe that this is normal process. It's not. The normal process would have been for him to have attended the Committee meeting and voice his oppisition to the crossbow change then. Of course, he dropped the ball and didn't make that meeting, so he wants to cry foul because the "UBK didn't know". Everyone knows the Feb. Committee/Mar. Commission meetings are when deer/fall turkey regs are finalized and he should have been there.

As for the appeal, there's another decision being appealed by a group that wants to keep exotic dangerous animals. Shows what can happen when the Commission is taking lightly and their hands tied because a small group doesn't like what was decided.

More lies? Grow up Tom. You of all people should quit throwing those stones, because you definitely live in a glass house. Get you facts straight before you post 'more lies'. UBK never appealed the ML season. I was there, you weren't. And its not that 'rare' for a commission ruling to be overturned. The most recent was only a few years back when the commission passed that the Pioneer Weapons only area would no longer allow compounds. It passed the commission but was overturned through the appeal process when lots of irrate bowhunters from the area heard about it and called their representatives. And I never cried foul because UBK didn't know. We knew, that's why we fought tooth and nail for 30 days after the committee meeting to stop the introduction of another weapon into the archery season. The commission simply made light of a large user group and did not vote the constituent majority. You should tell these folks the truth that I've been doing the lobby thing in Frankfort for a heck of a lot longer than you, and that you even called me for help on one occassion because I was in the 'know' in Frankfort. That's before you decided to jump in as a one man band who is mister know-it-all when it comes to whats good for the sportsmen. Sad thing is I thought when I first meet you several years ago that you might be a welcome to Frankfort, boy, did that bite me in the ass.
BTW, would you know who's the culprit who is messing with the UBK survey? Our webmaster says he won't say..but it's been tracked to that same IP again. HHmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[gwhilikerz]

I for one am getting a little tired of the UBK and the people who claim to be speaking for them. They come here and make some of the most outrageous claims. They tell us that they were founded to fight xbows. Well that may very well be, but they sure are not proud of that start. At least they don't talk of it on their website. Instead, they sound like sportsmen who are fighting for ALL sportsmen. Here is just a sample from their "about us" area of their website:

"United Bowhunters of Kentucky was founded because of the need to protect and promote bowhunting in Kentucky. However, along the way we found these aims could not be accomplished without spending our time to teach old as well as new bowhunters a code of ethics.

We were not concerned with the type of equipment an individual would choose to carry, but rather the attitude these individuals carried."

From what I've seen here on KentuckyHunting they are very concerned about the "type of equipment", even going so far as to try to outlaw some archery equipment from archery season. If they lie on their own website about their motives I question if the rank and file UBK members know what their leaders are doing and exactly what their dues monies go for.
My memory is not as good as it once was, but I seem to remember that the big fuss when UBK was formed was the introduction of the compound, not the xbow. At least that's what it was when I joined.

[Duster]

Walt.... Let's take a differant senero of the way the vote for has came in. Let's just say I teach a high school computer class 80% of my class are boys. I mention this crossbow poll to some of the kids. One boy in his spare time goes to the UBK web site and see's the poll. Now he has several friends in that same class that hunt. Boy number 1 is a yes vote, he tell's his friends and one by one they line up to vote. Not being able to vote more than once per computer as you stated it was set up now they find a way to reset and let each and everyone vote thier choice. Would not several votes come off the same IP address ? Your UBK poll and the manipulations of the numbers just shows me, the UBK likes to only accept votes that are cast the way they want.

[Walt K]

"My memory is not as good as it once was, but I seem to remember that the big fuss when UBK was formed was the introduction of the compound, not the xbow. At least that's what it was when I joined." - Gwillly

sorry Gwilly, your mind is slipping a bit if you think that..I'd say 80% of our members are compound shooters including myself..though I stickbow for fish..and why's it so hard to understand that our organization is a bow organization, not a crossbow, pistol, muzzleload, rock, spear, or numchuk organization..isn't that why you've formed the UCBK? because you have special interest in a special type weapon for a special type hunting? That's not a bad thing..just different strokes for different folks..I wouldn't expect the Bucksnort Muzzleloading Organization to welcome me with open arms to help me get my .44 mag pistol into muzzleload season...because its a different weapon? duh?

[Walt K]

Duster...we don't think anyone should manipulate the survey whether you're for or against. I may suggest to the executive board to have the webmaster just pull it since it's just more mess than its worth..we TRIED to have an honest survey..one in which you did not have to register.

[InfantryGrunt]

There is one fact that ol' Ben Franklin had right. We must all hang together or we will most assuredly hang separately. Hunting in all forms is under constant attack by various groups that would like to see all hunting eliminated. We as hunters need to figure out how to work together, not wasting time and energy attacking each other.

As hunters, we all need to become spokesmen for our sport and portray it in a positive light. And our sport is hunting.

[gwhilikerz]

"My memory is not as good as it once was, but I seem to remember that the big fuss when UBK was formed was the introduction of the compound, not the xbow. At least that's what it was when I joined." - Gwillly

sorry Gwilly, your mind is slipping a bit if you think that..I'd say 80% of our members are compound shooters including myself..though I stickbow for fish..and why's it so hard to understand that our organization is a bow organization, not a crossbow, pistol, muzzleload, rock, spear, or numchuk organization..isn't that why you've formed the UCBK? because you have special interest in a special type weapon for a special type hunting? That's not a bad thing..just different strokes for different folks..I wouldn't expect the Bucksnort Muzzleloading Organization to welcome me with open arms to help me get my .44 mag pistol into muzzleload season...because its a different weapon? duh?
I suppose the memory IS the first thing to go:) . What was the percentage of members who used compounds when UBK was first formed (best guess)?

[Multidigits]

UBK never appealed the ML season. Maybe not? I don't know. that's what the I was told by Mr. Hensley. I'd believe him over you at this point. I do know at least one of you buddies is still whining about getting screwed on that one, so I know it's still a sore spot.

And I never cried foul because UBK didn't know. Your cohorts sure have, especially the Strader show bunch.

We knew, that's why we fought tooth and nail for 30 days after the committee meeting to stop the introduction of another weapon into the archery season. The commission simply made light of a large user group and did not vote the constituent majority. Not true....look at the survey. They voted on the majority of the whole, not just those at the Commission meeting.

You should tell these folks the truth that I've been doing the lobby thing in Frankfort for a heck of a lot longer than you, and that you even called me for help on one occassion because I was in the 'know' in Frankfort. You'll have to refresh my memory on that one. I sure don't remember asking you for help on anything?

That's before you decided to jump in as a one man band who is mister know-it-all when it comes to whats good for the sportsmen. That would be ALL sportsmen, not one select user group. And thanks for the compliment.

Sad thing is I thought when I first meet you several years ago that you might be a welcome to Frankfort, boy, did that bite me in the ass. Too fricken bad. Maybe you'll learn better next time, before you launch a smear campaign against someone because they have a different point of view.

BTW, would you know who's the culprit who is messing with the UBK survey? Our webmaster says he won't say..but it's been tracked to that same IP again. HHmmmmmmmmmmmmm I assume you think it's me, good luck trying to prove it. I'm wondering why the survey is even there. It's a little too late. When the time was needed for you to survey, you had something stupid on there about squirrels. Got to go, the Internet police are at the door. http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/banana.gif

[nwebb]

Multi the check will be going in the mail tomorrow should get it in a day or two.

[DJH]

Multidigits – Looks like you and your people have your hands full here, my friend. Just want to let you know that we are prepared to provide any assistance that we can. There are storms like this brewing and kicking up all across the country and we are keeping our fingers on the pulse. I just want you to know that this is the worst of it. Ten years down the line, everyone will be working together and getting along, but for now there is the storm. Just remember this one important fact, my friend – WE ARE THE STORM!

Give a call or drop a line if there is anything that that we can do for you to assist you in your mission.

[joekat46]

Joekat said: "The politicians in KY aren't the threat but the Federal Judges that will want to know why, if the extremist aren't given the same rights of appeal/ammendment to hunting regulations on these FEDERAL lands, will be."

Joe - The extremists already have the exact same rights that you're talking about.

I'm limiting myself to one session per day on this forum so my replies won't always be timely.

Yes - they do now have that exact right BUT they very rarely try to exercise it, especially in a state like Kentucky. They are still reeling from their losses in both Ohio voter referendums (dove and trapping) and don't want to risk further embarrassment in the mid west. It hurts their fund raising. Thank the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance for both defeats.
If this crossbow ruling is reversed, for no biological reason, their foot will be in the door. It will set a precedent on how to whine away or reduce a season by going straight to the Governor,Legislature or sympathetic Federal Judge. The best defense against this is for the Commissioners rulings to be "gospel". Many of us "old timers" remember when as a part of the LBL hunter's info we received instructions on how to deal with anti-hunting demonstrators. The federal land managers know they are more vulnerable to attack. As an aside the crossbow is not legal in LBL and IMHO won't be even if this decision stands. The LBL deer herd doesn't appear to need further cropping. Most other areas of the state aren't in this position and an additional crossbow harvest won't hurt a thing.

[Multidigits]

Multidigits – Looks like you and your people have your hands full here, my friend. Just want to let you know that we are prepared to provide any assistance that we can. There are storms like this brewing and kicking up all across the country and we are keeping our fingers on the pulse. I just want you to know that this is the worst of it. Ten years down the line, everyone will be working together and getting along, but for now there is the storm. Just remember this one important fact, my friend – WE ARE THE STORM!

Give a call or drop a line if there is anything that that we can do for you to assist you in your mission.




Thanks, we're holding our own at this point. We know we have a few more weeks before it's done, and expect to work hard between now and then. Thanks for the offer and there's lots of folks here that will be talking with you soon.

[A.W]

Hi. I live in Toronto, Ontario. I'll have a cheque in the mail today to help you out with your quest..........I'll even make it American dollars since our dollar isn't worth much. Good luck.:)

[Al]

A few more weeks before its done? I thought it was a done deal.

[buckfever]

A few more weeks before its done? I thought it was a done deal.

No, Al, it's not done. The proposed regulation is simply that - proposed. The process might take several more months.

[Willie]

No, Al, it's not done. The proposed regulation is simply that - proposed. The process might take several more months.

Hmm..

It says "crossbow" right here. I don't think they would post that if it wasn't true, do you?

http://www.kdfwr.state.ky.us/0506seasons.asp?lid=1072&NavPath=C151

[Mit Sirrom]

I have listened to all of you complain about poachers and law breakers.
I have heard of all the ill-willed things that you would or would wish to be done to them. You guys sicken me to the core.

You stand beside them.
You call them friend.
You send them money.
you let them represent you.
you defend them to your neighbor.

All of you followers can take your lack of testicular fortitude, and follow Tom Conley to the end.
Be one with him, but shame yourself in bashing poachers and law breakers. Be filled with decitfullness as you disrespect all of us who stand for what we believe in. And as you allow your thoughts to be negative towards people who speak of the truth, remember, if you stand beside them, you are one of them.

Be a poacher supporter and join the clubs and events that he holds.

[gwhilikerz]

New nic, same old s##t.
Is your name really Tim Morris or is that there to throw us off? Like multi won't know who the new guy is.:)

[creekdawgg]

Multidigits – Looks like you and your people have your hands full here, my friend. Just want to let you know that we are prepared to provide any assistance that we can. There are storms like this brewing and kicking up all across the country and we are keeping our fingers on the pulse. I just want you to know that this is the worst of it. Ten years down the line, everyone will be working together and getting along, but for now there is the storm. Just remember this one important fact, my friend – WE ARE THE STORM!

Give a call or drop a line if there is anything that that we can do for you to assist you in your mission.




WOW more cry babies :eek:

http://louisvillenetworks.com/0017-0309-1021-0602_SM.jpg

[Willie]

WOW more cry babies :eek:



I guess you must have missed Mit Sirrom's post??




,

[creekdawgg]

I guess you must have missed Mit Sirrom's post??




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I didnt miss it, I have it posted up in my office and will read it every mourning to remind me of what jackass's some of you are :p

[Al]

It sounds like the same guy. If so ignore him he has a bad case of penis envy.

[Walt K]

"That would be ALL sportsmen, not one select user group. And thanks for the compliment." Multidigits

all sportsmen? you missed the bowhunters..oh, I forgot..you've stated that they are a bunch of whiney babies..guess they don't count

And Dan..you can go back to Minn now...too bad you jumped the fence on weapons..but you did get quite some perks from the industry over your stance..you probably don't remember me..but you even called my house several years ago and we talked an hour how glad you were that Ky. allowed 40+ days for crossbow use..and that handicapped could use them exclusively..that was your big agenda back then..and then we talked again at the ATA..and things started changing..it was no longer for just handicapped..was it Dan? yeah..the manufacturers really got you, didn't they? and you use to be a big time archery and bowhunter..even did an archery publication...too bad you no longer can connect to what bowhunting is about..Multi said it best I guess at the commissioner meeting "Its not suppose to be hard",,,yeah...you just don't understand..so grab your crossguns and rejoice.

[Multidigits]

Walt, why don't you spend your time playing with your own poll and on the Bowsite where you belong. This is about the crossbow, not you. I believe I can speak for most everyone here that we're tired of the whining your doing and your selfish attitude. It's not working, same as it didn't at the Commission meeting. Boo Hoo http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

[gwhilikerz]

"That would be ALL sportsmen, not one select user group. And thanks for the compliment." Multidigits

all sportsmen? you missed the bowhunters..oh, I forgot..you've stated that they are a bunch of whiney babies..guess they don't count

And Dan..you can go back to Minn now...too bad you jumped the fence on weapons..but you did get quite some perks from the industry over your stance..you probably don't remember me..but you even called my house several years ago and we talked an hour how glad you were that Ky. allowed 40+ days for crossbow use..and that handicapped could use them exclusively..that was your big agenda back then..and then we talked again at the ATA..and things started changing..it was no longer for just handicapped..was it Dan? yeah..the manufacturers really got you, didn't they? and you use to be a big time archery and bowhunter..even did an archery publication...too bad you no longer can connect to what bowhunting is about..Multi said it best I guess at the commissioner meeting "Its not suppose to be hard",,,yeah...you just don't understand..so grab your crossguns and rejoice.
No the bowhunters are not whiney babies. The majority of bowhunters, like all hunters, are fantastic people (notice I said fantastic, not fanatic). It seems the leaders of UBK are doing the crying. Hell, if you guys had your way even the squirrel hunters would not be allowed in your woods during archery season. I'm sure you talked to (Dan?) and I'm sure he was happy about even the little concession given to xbows. But, just like you whiners do for your season, he wanted more. Nothing wrong with that is there? Maybe Dan was a bigtime archer and bowhunter, I don't know. But I can see why he would want to distance himself from some of you guys. I have said many times that this is not about a battle between vertical and horizontal bowhunters. It is about a very small percentage of whiners. Heck they are even a small percentage of their own organization. Why they can't give the new rules a chance, then present valid data to the commission is something I don't understand. Well maybe I do. If we look at all the states that have joint vertical and horizontal seasons we would be hard pressed to find any data that would reverse the commission's decision. So go ahead with your personal attacks, that is all you have.

[Al]

Let them keep talking, their making themselves look like fools, and their pushing many folks as myself over to the crossbow camp.

[Mit Sirrom]

Like I give Two craps less who in the hell anybody thinks I am. If you cant figure out who it is by the name then you cant read. DUH!!! You shoudnt have to ask!Oh and not to forget about you Al. Is that all you know is "Penis Envy"? Come up with something new.
Once again, you cant have an alternative opinion on this "PUBLIC" web site. Unless you agree with the certain "leaders" on here, you cant stay here. Youll get kicked off.

Follow Tom, he will lead you in the right direction. He has some land you can hunt on. (illegally):rolleyes:

Creek dog. I thought that you misspelled your name on purpose until you typed "Mourning". If you need a dictionary let me know And I will buy you one homey G money!!!:cool:
I hope you all have a great day, and thank you for all that you do for me in Frankfort. I sure enjoy myself while hunting and fishing each time and think of each of you all. It is because of you that I can do these great things. My hat is off to Tom and Mr. Alt. You make me who I am today!!!:D :rolleyes:

[gwhilikerz]

Like I give Two craps less who in the hell anybody thinks I am. If you cant figure out who it is by the name then you cant read. DUH!!! You shoudnt have to ask!Oh and not to forget about you Al. Is that all you know is "Penis Envy"? Come up with something new.
Once again, you cant have an alternative opinion on this "PUBLIC" web site. Unless you agree with the certain "leaders" on here, you cant stay here. Youll get kicked off.

Follow Tom, he will lead you in the right direction. He has some land you can hunt on. (illegally):rolleyes:

Creek dog. I thought that you misspelled your name on purpose until you typed "Mourning". If you need a dictionary let me know And I will buy you one homey G money!!!:cool:
I hope you all have a great day, and thank you for all that you do for me in Frankfort. I sure enjoy myself while hunting and fishing each time and think of each of you all. It is because of you that I can do these great things. My hat is off to Tom and Mr. Alt. You make me who I am today!!!:D :rolleyes:
you really should consider therapy.

[plowboy]

Wow, I see the bull is still flying. Was hoping we were through that. Multi, I quit picking on you cause it was all in fun then too many people got mean. Anyway I am jealous as hell that you have learned how to use all them little faces and I haven't. Share the secret...not on a specialized forum, a pm would be great.

[creekdawgg]

Creek dog. I thought that you misspelled your name on purpose until you typed "Mourning". If you need a dictionary let me know And I will buy you one homey G money!!!:cool:



Why talk to me like that I havent said anything to you.

Yeah I need a dictionary, please bring it to me prick. i hope you enjoy your crossbow

[Mit Sirrom]

I didnt miss it, I have it posted up in my office and will read it every mourning to remind me of what jackass's some of you are :p

__________________
What is this?
And what crossbow?
And Prick?

[creekdawgg]

[QUOTE=Mit Sirrom]I didnt miss it, I have it posted up in my office and will read it every mourning to remind me of what jackass's some of you are :p


I was saying basically how much i liked what you wrote, that I put it in my office to remind me of what jackass's some people are (meaning some of the smartass's on here that are for crossbows)

That wasnt intended negative towards you at all. Sorry if you took it like that. Im on your side

[Mit Sirrom]

I got ya.... roger that. I took it the wrong way. No offense now. I dont own a cross bow by the way and aint for it during bow season!!!!

[creekdawgg]

:mad: I'm not for it either, not enough public land to hunt now why make it worse?

[Xtreme]

I have listened to all of you complain about poachers and law breakers.
I have heard of all the ill-willed things that you would or would wish to be done to them. You guys sicken me to the core.

You stand beside them.
You call them friend.
You send them money.
you let them represent you.
you defend them to your neighbor.

All of you followers can take your lack of testicular fortitude, and follow Tom Conley to the end.
Be one with him, but shame yourself in bashing poachers and law breakers. Be filled with decitfullness as you disrespect all of us who stand for what we believe in. And as you allow your thoughts to be negative towards people who speak of the truth, remember, if you stand beside them, you are one of them.

Be a poacher supporter and join the clubs and events that he holds.

This guy may be Tom's biggest fan and supporter yet:D I stand beside Tom as a friend. We disagree on xbows to a certain degree but I don't think he[Tom] is the anti-Christ.

I fear we have had our tree shaken and all sorts of nuts have fallen out:eek:

[Multidigits]

[QUOTE=Mit Sirrom]I didnt miss it, I have it posted up in my office and will read it every mourning to remind me of what jackass's some of you are :p


I was saying basically how much i liked what you wrote, that I put it in my office to remind me of what jackass's some people are (meaning some of the smartass's on here that are for crossbows)

That wasnt intended negative towards you at all. Sorry if you took it like that. Im on your side

So Dave is everybody that uses a crossbow or wants to use a crossbow a "jackass". Just want to put this in perspective on how you stand on your fellow sportsmen be they handicap in some way or just wanting an equal oppurtunity???

[digger]

I dont own a cross bow by the way and aint for it during bow season!!!!

I'm sorry being from crossbow hunting area and speaking only the King's english, could you expain why you don't own a xbow and its not for bow season????

Digger

[Willie]

This guy may be Tom's biggest fan and supporter yet:D I stand beside Tom as a friend. We disagree on xbows to a certain degree but I don't think he[Tom] is the anti-Christ.

I fear we have had our tree shaken and all sorts of nuts have fallen out:eek:


Yeah Tim is not quite bright..

[Mit Sirrom]

I dont own one because I dont own one. And because modern firearms are not used during bow season would apply to the same as crossbows not in bow season.I am not against xbows. I am not for them in the bow season though. I am not against guns. I own them and hunt with them. I am not for them in bow seaon though. Bow season is bow season like frog season is frog season. Would anyone like to change some other seasons. If you wish to hunt during BOW season then purchase a bow. If I were to choose to hunt during xbow season then I would purchase one and use it. I think that xbow season is great. I think that all seasons are great when they come in. I am not trying to change things though. If you are disabled, you can use a gun year round in my opinion. I dont think a single soul is complaining about the disabled.

And extreme.....I dont support him to awful much huh. Tom and I have had our problems. Hell me and several have our problems. Look at Willie. Oh silly Willie.
If you wish to stand beside him, thats your perogative. I just thinks its funny how some guys sit on here on complain but dont stand up for what they preach. SPINELESS. And then they make these remarks like silly Willie.

I bet if you archieve these post about trespassers, then youll find the same people who are complaining about it are Tom biggest buddies. Funny if you ask me.
Normally Ive been booted by now. I am only allowed 2 post and then my name gets shucked. Silly Willie, call Tom Thumb, get him to ask Bad Chad to give me a swift kick right in the booty. If that dont work.... press SKY ALT DELETE. That will usually work. Hell they are all twin brothers.

[Mit Sirrom]

Like me or not, I bet I am the most entertaining SOB this site has ever seen. Willie, you know that deep down inside, you want me!!!:D

[gwhilikerz]

Like me or not, I bet I am the most entertaining SOB this site has ever seen. Willie, you know that deep down inside, you want me!!!:D
Now I get it. This a####le is trying to break the all-time ban record. Let's take a poll. I vote to keep him around. He'll get tired soon enough when nobody pays any attention to his ranting and raving.

[Xtreme]

Like me or not, I bet I am the most entertaining SOB this site has ever seen. Willie, you know that deep down inside, you want me!!!:D

You are entertaining, almost as much as multi:D

[Mit Sirrom]

Well gwhilekerz, dont get so upset. There is no need to call me those names. Even I have feelings. And by the way, please ignore me. It would be doing us both a favor.

I'll take the entertaining comment as a compliment. I find Multi pretty and entertaining. Oops, I mean pretty entertaining.

[Mit Sirrom]

Was I ranting or raving. My tone of typing has never been raised.:p

[Xtreme]

Well gwhilekerz, dont get so upset. There is no need to call me those names. Even I have feelings. And by the way, please ignore me. It would be doing us both a favor.

I'll take the entertaining comment as a compliment. I find Multi pretty and entertaining. Oops, I mean pretty entertaining.

If you think multi is pretty you are a sick man indeed. I once saw a picture of him with a xbow in hand and a grouse feather in his hat.....Not.....priceless:eek:

Don't worry about willikerz, in every universe there is matter and anti matter, he just simply does not matter:rolleyes:

[creekdawgg]

[QUOTE=creekdawgg]

So Dave is everybody that uses a crossbow or wants to use a crossbow a "jackass". Just want to put this in perspective on how you stand on your fellow sportsmen be they handicap in some way or just wanting an equal oppurtunity???

I dont think all of you guys are jackass's, I think most in this forum are but not because you wish to shoot a crossbow because you guys are trying to make it personal and it's not. Everyone should have thier own opinon but all should refrain from making this a personal issue.There is such a thing of agree to disagree and leave it at that without the need to make enemys.

[Mit Sirrom]

Thats all, nothing but a xbow and a feather huh? Wowsers!!! Priceless? I want to see him and Willikerz together with the feather and crossbow. Thats Priceless. But I will tell ya, I bet if we were at Multis house right now...... they are there, and thats all they got on together.

[Mit Sirrom]

Creek... I have been on and OFF here a long time now, and I promise you, everybody here takes it personal. Its a cult full of a bunch of sassy women with a handful of Grown men. Everybody is doing something good for everybody and they want all the recognition in the world for it.

[gwhilikerz]

mit sirrom, creekdawgg, xtreme. This is kinda sad. You guys are so upset that you have decided to come to the CROSSBOW forum and do your ridiculous act. Do you really think you are helping the anti-xbow cause? Ya'll keep it up. It is only making you look like the babbling Cry babies you are. I'm going to try real hard not argue with you any more. I'll try to talk about positive aspects of deer hunting and shooting with a xbow and patiently wait for Sept. When I can take my new xbow into Your woods.:)

[GaryL]

I'm sure in the xbow club...best thing that can happen..:D

[Multidigits]

[QUOTE=Multidigits]

I dont think all of you guys are jackass's, I think most in this forum are but not because you wish to shoot a crossbow because you guys are trying to make it personal and it's not. Everyone should have thier own opinon but all should refrain from making this a personal issue.There is such a thing of agree to disagree and leave it at that without the need to make enemys.

When you call some of us or all of us "jackasses" because you disagree with our quest for equal oppurtunity, is not not making it personal????

[wildwindom]

I sent my money in i want to be a member for sure.

[Xtreme]

mit sirrom, creekdawgg, xtreme. This is kinda sad. You guys are so upset that you have decided to come to the CROSSBOW forum and do your ridiculous act. Do you really think you are helping the anti-xbow cause? Ya'll keep it up. It is only making you look like the babbling Cry babies you are. I'm going to try real hard not argue with you any more. I'll try to talk about positive aspects of deer hunting and shooting with a xbow and patiently wait for Sept. When I can take my new xbow into Your woods.:)

That's hilarious!!! You could not refrain from arguing if some one parked a truck on your jaws:D

[creekdawgg]

mit sirrom, creekdawgg, xtreme. This is kinda sad. You guys are so upset that you have decided to come to the CROSSBOW forum and do your ridiculous act. Do you really think you are helping the anti-xbow cause? Ya'll keep it up. It is only making you look like the babbling Cry babies you are. I'm going to try real hard not argue with you any more. I'll try to talk about positive aspects of deer hunting and shooting with a xbow and patiently wait for Sept. When I can take my new xbow into Your woods.:)


hey gw I just ate dinner you wanna argue about it?:D

[Xtreme]

[QUOTE=creekdawgg]

When you call some of us or all of us "jackasses" because you disagree with our quest for equal oppurtunity, is not not making it personal????

What's wrong with a jack ass? With fuel prices going up every day and four wheelers costing more than my truck I would like to have a good one.

It could help "mow' my yard and drag out deers out the hollers. And if nothing else if we all run out of things to argue and fight over we could have jack ass pulls.

Of course multi would have an un fair advantage just because he would come up with some type of genetically altered breeding stock that could pull a mature Oak out of the ground:D

Okay willikerz, it's now time for your intelligent rebuttal:)

[Multidigits]

I sent my money in i want to be a member for sure.

got you down, thanks

[Multidigits]

[QUOTE=Multidigits]

What's wrong with a jack ass? With fuel prices going up every day and four wheelers costing more than my truck I would like to have a good one.

It could help "mow' my yard and drag out deers out the hollers. And if nothing else if we all run out of things to argue and fight over we could have jack ass pulls.

Of course multi would have an un fair advantage just because he would come up with some type of genetically altered breeding stock that could pull a mature Oak out of the ground:D

Okay willikerz, it's now time for your intelligent rebuttal:)

I've owned a riding mule for hunting off of before....4 wheelers are better. http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/whip.gif

Rick, you asked a while back to let the thing die down, yet you can't wait to get home to try and stir the pot. we got these threads moved to their own spot to keep you elitist from having to read them, and you can't stay away. Get a life. You have an archery thread where you can go and pat yourself on the back for being an archer, go there. Hell GW will probably come in there so you have somebody to pick at.

We need to meet with Rick Burris sometime soon, Let me know when you want to try and do it.

[Xtreme]

[QUOTE=Xtreme]

I've owned a riding mule for hunting off of before....4 wheelers are better. http://forum.gon.com/images/smilies/whip.gif

Rick, you asked a while back to let the thing die down, yet you can't wait to get home to try and stir the pot. we got these threads moved to their own spot to keep you elitist from having to read them, and you can't stay away. Get a life. You have an archery thread where you can go and pat yourself on the back for being an archer, go there. Hell GW will probably come in there so you have somebody to pick at.

We need to meet with Rick Burris sometime soon, Let me know when you want to try and do it.

When ever is best for you. You are the one with the weird work schedule. Just let me know ahead of time.

I don't hang around the archery thread much, too many elitists:D I have a life and you well know it:eek: Besides, willikerz is a great person to play verbal chess with.:)

[AteUp]

GW has "quit arguing" about this at least a half dozen times now. I can't keep myself from checking in everyday. It's like slowing down to look at a traffic accident.

[Multidigits]

We recieved two more memberships today. Keep them coming guys. Looking good!

[harpp]

Multi

How many have you received to date?

[Lamberneese]

I sent mine and was wondering if you have received it yet, thanks

[Multidigits]

We took in 3 more today, and I'm not home to check the list but one was from Paducah. Thanks, I'll check for sure tomorrow and let you know.

I'll be sending in the list to the LKS office Monday or Tuesday. You should start getting a few items from the League soon.