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ceohunter
02-21-2005, 07:54 PM
New info on hevi shot just released.

Anyways, they shared this bad news about raw material costs:
http://www.hevishot.com/hevishot_news/images/2-05/raw_material.gif

RutNcuT
02-22-2005, 12:22 AM
Ouch! Hate it when you see stuff like that.

Multidigits
02-22-2005, 08:52 AM
Looks like price per box hasn't changed much. Heavy loads of 3.5" 12 ga. will be about $20 a box and 3" about $18 a box.

ceohunter
02-22-2005, 09:22 AM
They havn't increased as the cost of raw materials increased over the last few years. I think Environmetals released this info. to prepare the hevi shot users for an upcoming increase that has not hit the market yet.

Multidigits
02-22-2005, 09:47 AM
Historically, manufacturers raise their prices on guns and ammo in Jan. of each year. If they did, it was only a modest increase. There won't be any adjustment after the peak of the season. Now is when dealers are buying turkey ammo for the up coming spring season. The price may well go down with Winchester now in the market as well?

ceohunter
02-22-2005, 10:21 AM
I hope your right.

Environmentals sent that email to its customer list and said prices will rise.

I don't care as much about the price becuase if things go right in the spring I should only shoot 2 shells (unless I travel).

For ducks I use the Hevi Steel now.

ceohunter
02-22-2005, 10:25 AM
Here is the text of the email they sent to me.

" If you can find a better price at your local retailer, go out and get all you can now! Prices will rise all year - and the retail prices next Fall will be awful. You heard it here first: buy now and get a smaller sticker shock than you're going to get during the season. And we'll see if we can whether this storm - the worst inflation we've seen since Jimmy Carter's era."

There was also some stuff in there about all these cases of shells they have for sell.

Multidigits
02-22-2005, 10:40 AM
Here is the text of the email they sent to me.

" If you can find a better price at your local retailer, go out and get all you can now! Prices will rise all year - and the retail prices next Fall will be awful. You heard it here first: buy now and get a smaller sticker shock than you're going to get during the season. And we'll see if we can whether this storm - the worst inflation we've seen since Jimmy Carter's era."

There was also some stuff in there about all these cases of shells they have for sell.


Sounds like it's more from a doom and gloom Democrate than anything else? I've seen several promotion deals from Rem. on Hevi and no indication that prices will sky rocket anytime soon. There will probably be another rebate offer this year as well.

ceohunter
02-22-2005, 10:47 AM
There is more to it than just the statement about Jimmy Carter. There is also one on there about the chinese.

In any case, I hope you are right and the prices don't go up but actually go down.

I hope the email that was sent by the producer of Hevi Shot (Environmetals) was just lying to all its customers on the email list. I could see where they would be benefited by telling the customers the prices are going to rise this year and then they actually go down.

mossyhorns
02-22-2005, 10:25 PM
With Winchester and Federal getting into the "heavier than lead" market, I would expect prices to become more competitive.

P. Beyer
02-22-2005, 10:36 PM
From what I've seen on paper, It's worth it. Bought another box tonight,........

gung
02-23-2005, 01:49 PM
I broke down and got a box.i am going to try it this weekend.Hope it is worth the price.

jonescreek
02-23-2005, 03:26 PM
Maybe you guys can give me some advice. I have been using a 10gauge 3 1/2 single shot the last two years. But recently I've been wanting to go the other way. My dad gave me a Savage 20 gauge pump when I was 12 (38 years ago) and I've been thinking about taking it turkey hunting for the heck of it. It hasn't been fired in 30 years, probably. What can you tell me about using hevi-shot in it from the standpoint of what I could reasonably expect. Improved cylinder bore, 2 3/4". Thanks for any help.

Multidigits
02-23-2005, 03:34 PM
Maybe you guys can give me some advice. I have been using a 10gauge 3 1/2 single shot the last two years. But recently I've been wanting to go the other way. My dad gave me a Savage 20 gauge pump when I was 12 (38 years ago) and I've been thinking about taking it turkey hunting for the heck of it. It hasn't been fired in 30 years, probably. What can you tell me about using hevi-shot in it from the standpoint of what I could reasonably expect. Improved cylinder bore, 2 3/4". Thanks for any help.

Your old shotgun won't be threaded for interchangable chokes, so your stuck with what you have, which is probably fairly tight. I'd try a box of Hevi #6 and see what you have. If it's good, then just hold you ranges down to about 40 yards or less and let them have it.

jonescreek
02-23-2005, 03:42 PM
Thank you. I just have a hankerin' to use it for old time sake, so I'll give it a shot, so to speak. I'll let you know what happens. Like everyone else, I look forward to the chance. He is long ago dead. I couldn't hardly reach the trigger when I had a coat on, so he sawed off the stock and put a recoil pad back on. Now my arm has to bend to where my finger is almost on my chest to pull the trigger. It's pretty sentimental.

Mount-N-Man
02-23-2005, 10:22 PM
I can't see spending the kind of money they ask for Heavy shoot, I have always used Federal premium # 6 and never had a problem with em. They drop a bird like a bad habit.

WBBP
02-23-2005, 10:33 PM
I just talked to a friend of mine that compared the "penetrating" ability of Hevi-Shot No. 6 against Federal No. 6 Premium last week.

He shot each 12 ga. shell at a piece of roofing metal at 40yds:

Results:

1) Hevi-Shot No. 6 penetration = 40 holes
2) Federal Premium No. 6 = None
3) Federal Premium No. 5 = None
4) Federal Premium No. 4 = 28 holes

Pretty interesting. I have used Federal for years and killed several gobblers with it. IMO, Where the Hevi-Shot might come in handy is for longer shots and shots through brush, or unfortunately a moving bird. I switched to hevi-Shot last year and will use it again this year in No. 5

GSP
02-23-2005, 10:35 PM
How will they do in a .665 choke? To tight?

Multidigits
02-23-2005, 10:38 PM
How will they do in a .665 choke? To tight?

Rem. uses .675 for their chokes so a couple hundreds tighter shouldn't matter.

Mount-N-Man
02-23-2005, 10:51 PM
Might come in handy also if the bird is standing behind a piece of metal roofing material, LOL. But a birds head is much softer than a piece of metal,that is interesting though.

WBBP
02-23-2005, 10:56 PM
Mtnman: That's true. Haven't seen one behind a piece of roofing metal lately.......but you never know :eek:

I was pretty surprised myself.

Knocked one down one time at 40 yards, it jumped up and I knocked it down again, it ran, I ran, one more shot, it flew 500 yards across a field, I watched. :mad: Hevi-Shot might have helped that day. That is the only turkey I have ever shot at that didn't die.

Mount-N-Man
02-23-2005, 11:10 PM
The last 2 toms I've taken has been 40 and 43 yards and both dropped with Federal premiums 3" # 6. I can't get # 5 to pattern worth a crap.

Jarhead
02-24-2005, 02:49 AM
what chokes are you fellows using with hevi-shot im shooting a .665 comp-in-choke in my superx2 and a .655 gobblin thunder in my girlfriends al391 any info on shooting it in these brand chokes thanks >JARHEAD

mossyhorns
02-24-2005, 07:57 AM
For turkey, there is no doubt that "heavier than lead" shot is better. It's simple physics -- that's why lead was used for projectiles in the first place. Now there are several choices. Hevi-shot has their own brand and an even heavier than Hevi-shot product, Federal has a heavy, and Winchester has a heavy.

If you want to use a heavy, go with a .675 choke. A few hundreths will make a difference for long range patterns. Hevi doesn't like to be crowded. My gobbling thunder is .655 and too tight for heavy. Brilley makes a great turkey choke in .675.

I used hevi-shot for ducks and geese this year and killed more birds with fewer shots. This is because I could use #6 for ducks and because the price kept me from joining in on pointless shoot-fests. Where there were geese, I used #4 or #2 with great success.

P. Beyer
02-24-2005, 09:37 AM
Yesterdays results were as follows.

All shots were at 40 yards, A total of the shots all with 3 1/2" Hevi #6's and a Rem Super Full Turkey choke. The first 2 produced a pellet count of 50 and 54 in the kill zone of an HS Target, the third shot there were 64 pellets, 18 of which were all in the head.